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A Tourist Guide to Lancre

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A WP:BEFORE search shows only unreliable sources or bare mentions. This article has not passed WP:SIGCOV. A redirect target could be Discworld. Jontesta (talk) 19:09, 7 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Cunard's sources and expansion would make a merge WP:UNDUE, although I concur with PARAKANYAA that an article on the Mapp series would be ideal. In the absence of that, however, keep. Jfire (talk) 16:59, 12 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Merge to above target. I afded another book in this series a while ago. I think the best solution would be an article on the Mapp sub series, but we do not have that yet, so to here they go for now. PARAKANYAA (talk) 21:10, 7 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep, per sources by Cunard. I now think that this is enough to be undue weight merged to its target and to support notability. However I don't think it would be undue weight on a "Mapps" article still, so if an article on that got made I would perhaps support merging it there. PARAKANYAA (talk) 22:07, 11 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep per the significant coverage in multiple independent reliable sources. Wikipedia:Notability (books)#Criteria says:

    A book is presumed notable if it verifiably meets, through reliable sources, at least one of the following criteria:

    1. The book has been the subject of two or more non-trivial published works appearing in sources that are independent of the book itself. This can include published works in all forms, such as newspaper articles, other books, television documentaries, bestseller lists, and reviews. This excludes media re-prints of press releases, flap copy, or other publications where the author, its publisher, agent, or other self-interested parties advertise or speak about the book.
    Sources
    1. Butler, Andrew M. (2007). An Unofficial Companion to the Novels of Terry Pratchett. Oxford: Greenwood World Publishing. p. 373–374. ISBN 978-1-84645-001-3. Retrieved 2025-01-10 – via Internet Archive.

      The book provides 434 words of coverage about the subject. The book notes: "Subtitled A Discworld Mapp Including a Pyctorial Guide to the Lancre Fells and a description of a picturefque and charming walk in thys charming and hospitable country. It was originally published by Corgi in an edition of 75,000 and has been translated into Czech. It was devised by Terry Pratchett and Stephen Briggs, with a view of Lancre painted by Paul Kidby. The third Discworld map, this time depicting Lancre, an area in the Ramtops which is notable for its Witches. As usual the pattern is an illustrated booklet relating to the area in question, and the map itself. This time there is no explanation as to the process of mapping, but then unlike Ankh-Morpork and the Discworld there was less evidence to reconcile."

      The book notes: "It also contains 'An additional Vue of Lankre' by Nanny Ogg which offers further description of Lancre and its witches, and reads as if it were dictated to a scribe — as no doubt it was, for the sum of a dollar. This is supplemented with her account of Lancre folk lore, such as the Lancre Oozer, A Mummers Play and the Witch Trials."

    2. Alton, Anne Hiebert (2014). "Coloring in Ocarine: Visual Semiotics and Discworld". In Alton, Anne Hiebert; Spruiell, William C. (eds.). Discworld and the Disciplines: Critical Approaches to the Terry Pratchett Works. Critical Explorations in Science Fiction and Fantasy. Jefferson, North Carolina: McFarland & Company. pp. 62–63. ISBN 978-0-7864-7464-6. ProQuest 2134885875. Retrieved 2025-01-10 – via Google Books.

      The book provides 321 words of coverage about the subject. The book notes: "Like the first two Discworld maps, A Tourist Guide to Lancre: A Discworld Mapp includes prefatory material written by Pratchett and Briggs, along with short essays serving as introductions to the area by the fictional champion walker, Eric Wheelbrace, and Gytha Ogg, as well as a lengthier extract from Wheelbrace’s A Pictorial Guide to the Lancre Fells and a concluding note by Nanny Ogg on Folk Lore of Lancre. Their essays are decorated with a few small illustrations of items such as a compass and a set of wire-cutters—indicating Wheelbrace’s habits and attitudes towards the thorny issue of right-of-way in the countryside—as well as a stone footbridge, a well, and a view (subtly presented from the side) of the Long Man."

      The book notes: "The Lancre map provides an excellent sense of the sheer verticality of the Kingdom, as well as presenting a better awareness than the novels do of the distance between Granny’s cottage and Nanny’s house in town. Like the other maps, by indicating a sense of geographic proportions it reinforces the idea of the geographic space of the Discworld, however imaginary."

    3. Less significant coverage:
      1. Burrows, Marc (2020). The Magic of Terry Pratchett. Yorkshire: Pen and Sword Books. ISBN 978-1-52676-550-5. Retrieved 2025-01-10 – via Google Books.

        The book notes: "Two more 'mapps', A Tourist Guide to Lancre and Death's Domain, followed in 1998 and 1999, though neither sold as well as the first two, with the final mapp receiving a print run which was less than half of the first. Rather than true maps, the Lancre and Death's Domain fold-outs featured detailed aerial views with artwork handled by another addition to the Discworld family, Paul Kidby."

    There is sufficient coverage in reliable sources to allow A Tourist Guide to Lancre to pass Wikipedia:Notability#General notability guideline, which requires "significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject".

    Cunard (talk) 12:53, 10 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Merge per others. The finds by Cunard are decent, but primarily are just summaries of what the book is as well as some minor commentary on sales figures. Works on Wikipedia need to be covered in a non-summary style that show their impact, which the demonstrated sources don't provide. Magneton Considerer: Pokelego999 (Talk) (Contribs) 21:39, 10 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Quelle: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/A_Tourist_Guide_to_Lancre