The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep‎ and move to Naxalite movement in Bhojpur. The move can be reverted, or moved to a better title, if there's consensus to do so on the article's Talk page. Owen× ☎ 18:10, 11 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

1970 Bhojpur uprising (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View log | edits since nomination)

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Much of the content has nothing to do with the actual incident which is itself non-notable. The subject as a whole fails WP:GNG. Ratnahastin (talk) 16:09, 28 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Events, History, and Bihar. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 16:18, 28 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Strong keep the nominator should have researched about the subject before nominating this. There are several high quality journals that are strictly written on this topic. Atleast they should have gone through reference section where they could've found following:

• Sinha, Arun (1978). "Class War in Bhojpur: I". Economic and Political Weekly. 13 (1): 10–11. JSTOR 4366262.
• Mukherjee, Kalyan (1979). "Peasant Revolt in Bhojpur". Economic and Political Weekly. 14 (36): 1536–38. JSTOR 4367921.
• Rajendra Singh Yadav, Kalyan Mukherjee (1982). "For reasons of state: Oppression and resistance a study of Bhojpur peasantry, The Journal of Peasant Studies, 9:3". : Agrarian Movements in India: Studies on 20th Century Bihar: 119–147. doi:10.1080/03066158208438175. S2CID 154841960.
• Sinha, Arun (1978). "Class War in Bhojpur: II". Economic and Political Weekly. 13 (3): 90–92. JSTOR 4366310..Admantine123 (talk) 17:01, 28 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Explain how any of these sources establish WP:GNG. Ratnahastin (talk) 17:06, 28 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

This is a significant event of the History of Bihar like Bihar movement. The Naxalism in Bihar has been a highly notable subject to write as in the history of Bihar, we have read caste wars happening over the decades between various faction of society for land and political power. This significant subject throws light on the early events sparking the naxalite movement in plains of central Bihar after it first emerged in the neighbouring state of West Bengal. You talk about "passing mention", let me tell there are seperate books written on the movement like some of the journals I have mentioned there. Anyone with fair judgement would have gauged the notability of the article. Admantine123 (talk) 00:52, 2 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

You were asked to describe how does those cited sources establish WP:GNG. I am not asking why do you believe this subject is important. Ratnahastin (talk) 01:31, 2 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

What is the definition of Notability according to you? Admantine123 (talk) 03:55, 2 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Articles generally require significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the topic. Ratnahastin (talk) 04:03, 2 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

So you got in these sources published by scholarly journals. Admantine123 (talk) 05:43, 2 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

No because you are yet to explain how any of these sources establish WP:GNG. Ratnahastin (talk) 07:11, 2 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete Passing mentions don't count when it comes to establish notability. Dympies (talk) 03:39, 29 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep: Clearly passes WP:GNG, many reputed media articles, journals available on internet! Youknow? (talk) 10:55, 29 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete Seems insignificant to begin with. Captain AmericanBurger1775 (talk) 16:31, 30 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep: As per the sources/journals, the article obviously passes GNG; there's no reason for deletion of the same! Ekdalian (talk) 08:55, 1 October 2024 (UTC) — Note: An editor has expressed a concern that Ekdalian (talk • contribs) has been canvassed to this discussion. (diff)[reply]
• Keep – For those who still don't know, the article is about the Naxalite movement in Bhojpur, which started in the early 1970s. The topic is widely covered in scholarship and is clearly notable. I just needed to do a cursory search to find the following in-depth scholarly sources that are not even cited in the article, although most of the details covered in them are already summarised in it:

• Kala, Manju; Maharaj, R. N.; Mukherjee, Kalyan (1986). "Peasant Unrest in Bhojpur: A Survey". In Desai, A. R. (ed.). Agrarian Struggles in India After Independence. Oxford University Press. pp. 263–274. ISBN 978-0-19-561681-1. Archived from the original on 12 May 2021.

[Check from The Movement section onwards of p. 263, although previous pages are also relevant, as they give the movement's background]

• Sinha, Arun (1978). "The Awakening in Bhojpur". In Sen, Samar; Panda, Debabrata; Lahiri, Ashish (eds.). Naxalbari and After: A Frontier Anthology, Vol. 1. Kathashilpa. pp. 264–290. OCLC 1150867358. Archived from the original on 19 August 2019.

[this book's review: https://www.jstor.org/stable/4367846]

• Das, Arvind N. (1983). "Agrarian Change from Above and Below; Bihar 1947–78". In Guha, Ranajit (ed.). Subaltern Studies II: Writings on South Asian History and Society. Oxford University Press. pp. 221–226. ISBN 978-0-19-561502-9. Archived from the original on 25 September 2018.
• Banerjee, Sumanta (1984). India’s Simmering Revolution: The Naxalite Uprising. Zed Books. pp. 301–305. ISBN 978-0-86232-037-9. Archived from the original on 22 December 2023.

All of these sources give in-depth coverage of the Bhojpur movement. In fact, the article is already well-sourced and detailed. Having said that, the title of the article isn't good. It should be Naxalite movement in Bhojpur because that's how sources describe this movement, e.g. see here. Note that sources also describe it as Bhojpur movement (see here), although that title seems a bit ambiguous to me. - NitinMlk (talk) 19:16, 2 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Then you should create a Naxalite movement in Bhojpur or Bhojpur movement because that is a broader topic while this AfD concerns a non-notable event. Ratnahastin (talk) 04:52, 3 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Ratnahastin, I don't think you read the article, let alone the sources. The whole article from the first till the last sentence is about the Naxalite movement in Bhojpur. It already covers all relevant details of the 1970s as well as its background. So I don't need to create an article that already exists. The article requires page move, not deletion. Note that all these details were already there in the article before you nominated it. - NitinMlk (talk) 06:25, 3 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I think we should consider supporting the move to "Naxalite movement in Bhojpur" Ratnahastin (talk) 06:43, 3 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The two votes of delete are frivolous. These editors are somehow related to Rajput article. This nomination happened after I checked the recent disruptive activity on Rajput article which was not liked by some. Bishonen is aware of the problem associated with this caste article. In past, you (Ratnahastin) were also in edit dispute with me over Rajput caste related articles. Admantine123 (talk) 05:19, 3 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Plus, the content is not limited to 1970 event only. It captures spread to other areas as well and I agree with NitinMlk that choice of title was bad. Admantine123 (talk) 05:22, 3 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Two editors having edited a similar page does not mean WP:CANVASSING. Stop disrupting this AfD with your nonsensical accusations. Dympies (talk) 06:06, 3 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Comment After checking the sources provided above, I have no problem with moving the page to Naxalite movement in Bhojpur per WP:ATD. Ratnahastin (talk) 06:43, 3 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: The title of article is irrelevant in determining the notability of its subject. The question before us here is whether the topic, be it the Bhojpur uprising or the Naxalite movement, meets our notability guidelines. Once we've answered that question, a page move--if needed--is trivial.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Owen× ☎ 20:54, 5 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• 'Comment- Naxalite movement in Bhojpur is a definitely notable topic considering many high quality sources published for the same. It is similar to Naxalbari uprising, a similar movement in the Indian state of West Bengal and can be created as separate article. Many sources cover the same which are as follows. In such a situation, the page move to Naxalite movement in Bhojpur is a good idea as the body of the article contains evey stuff about sparking of rebellion in 1970 as well as spread to other areas and contains the spread in whole central Bihar region with regional manifestation. The sources are:

• Sinha, Arun (1978). "Class War in Bhojpur: I". Economic and Political Weekly. 13 (1): 10–11. JSTOR 4366262.
• Mukherjee, Kalyan (1979). "Peasant Revolt in Bhojpur". Economic and Political Weekly. 14 (36): 1536–38. JSTOR 4367921.
• Rajendra Singh Yadav, Kalyan Mukherjee (1982). "For reasons of state: Oppression and resistance a study of Bhojpur peasantry, The Journal of Peasant Studies, 9:3". : Agrarian Movements in India: Studies on 20th Century Bihar: 119–147. doi:10.1080/03066158208438175. S2CID 154841960.
• Sinha, Arun (1978). "Class War in Bhojpur: II". Economic and Political Weekly. 13 (3): 90–92. JSTOR 4366310..
• Kala, Manju; Maharaj, R. N.; Mukherjee, Kalyan (1986). "Peasant Unrest in Bhojpur: A Survey". In Desai, A. R. (ed.). Agrarian Struggles in India After Independence. Oxford University Press. pp. 263–274. ISBN 978-0-19-561681-1. Archived from the original on 12 May 2021.
• Sinha, Arun (1978). "The Awakening in Bhojpur". In Sen, Samar; Panda, Debabrata; Lahiri, Ashish (eds.). Naxalbari and After: A Frontier Anthology, Vol. 1. Kathashilpa. pp. 264–290. OCLC 1150867358. Archived from the original on 19 August 2019.

[this book's review: https://www.jstor.org/stable/4367846]

• Das, Arvind N. (1983). "Agrarian Change from Above and Below; Bihar 1947–78". In Guha, Ranajit (ed.). Subaltern Studies II: Writings on South Asian History and Society. Oxford University Press. pp. 221–226. ISBN 978-0-19-561502-9. Archived from the original on 25 September 2018.
• Banerjee, Sumanta (1984). India’s Simmering Revolution: The Naxalite Uprising. Zed Books. pp. 301–305. ISBN 978-0-86232-037-9. Archived from the original on 22 December 2023.Admantine123 (talk) 00:16, 7 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep - Passes WP:GNG and is well sourced. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 20:32, 8 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Strong keep The article is well written and has a good amount of sources to support it. It is also significantly important in the Indian context. 25 CENTS VICTORIOUS ^🍁 12:48, 10 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep Article meets notability standards now, good start on citations and prose and there is room for growth and improvement. Royal Autumn Crest (talk) 15:54, 11 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.