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The result was redirect‎ to List of characters and names mentioned in the Quran#ʾUlu al-ʿAzm. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 06:22, 22 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Very short article which could be merged into prophets in Islam. TheTechie@enwiki (she/they | talk) 05:20, 8 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Islam-related deletion discussions. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 05:25, 8 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
• Redirect to List of characters and names mentioned in the Quran#ʾUlu al-ʿAzm: and per se, the term may not necessarily mean the high ranking prophets - see the meaning of the term, which perhaps might merit an entry on Wikitionary. Redirects are cheap and since the term is mentioned at the target, a redirect might work. _Regards, Aafi ^(talk) 06:30, 8 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

  Quran mentioned them as high ranking prophets in Quran 2:253. Therealbey (talk) 18:44, 9 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

  I didn't say that they weren't. I said the term doesn't only mean them. _Regards, Aafi ^(talk) 05:57, 12 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• Neutral: I was pinged as the "creator" of the page, but really my contribution was just to fix up some manual-page-move snafu; the page creator was @Therealbey:, I think. See User talk:Therealbey#Ulu_al-ʿAzm. I agree that the standalone page is basically redundant with the place it used to redirect to: List of characters and names mentioned in the Quran#ʾUlu al-ʿAzm. I'm generally sympathetic to the idea that "if you build it, they will come" (I see nothing wrong with Therealbey's splitting out this section into its own page so there's a place to hang more in-depth coverage); but I agree that no in-depth coverage has materialized in the past couple months, so maybe that's a reason to turn the page back into a redirect. Doesn't matter to me. ... +1 for adding a Wiktionary entry, if a WP:RS can be found. But note that Wiktionary tends not to accept Romanizations as entries; and wikt:أُولُو ٱلْعَزْم would be of little use to someone googling the phrase "ulu al-azm." --Quuxplusone (talk) 14:38, 8 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Relisting as we have two separate suggestions for Redirect/Merge target pages. Just a note to the nominator, Prophets in Islam is not a suitable Merge target article because it is a Redirect, not an article. Please check links before you propose them.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 05:22, 15 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• Redirect back to the List of...: the article is nothing but a dicdef. Moreover it is incorrect: it says "group of prophets in Islam, recognized in the Qur'an as..." - nothing or the kind. The listed names are the guesswork of Islamic scholars whom Allah meant when talking to Muhammad (p.b.u.h.). --Altenmann >talk 03:17, 17 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

  as I said, "ʾUlu al-ʿAzm" is a dictionary term that means someone/something great, and it could include prophets and other things as well. But for now since the term is mentioned there, we could redirect it to that section. _Regards, Aafi ^(talk) 09:44, 17 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.