User talk:Winterysteppe
Winterysteppe (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))
Request reason:
Here goes
I am appealing this check user block. Recently, everyone has seen a series of vandals targeting numerous people, most notably me. I had filed an SPI on the trolls, but was denied be cause those accounts were already blocked. I filed again with one goal: for the check user to hard block the IP address from editing again. Yes I socked with the account whinterysteppe. I created just that account to encourage a endorsed SPI. This time it worked, and backfired spectacularly. Amid hence my block.
Yes I screwed up. I messed up by socking. Thus, I have broken some of the solid rules that Wikipedia is built upon. For that, I deeply apologize for the crap that occurred.
I am appealing the block because
- i will not create any other accounts to sock
- I will respect the rules and not deal with vandals anymore
Decline reason:
And then five minutes later you're doing it again. Nope. --jpgordon::==( o ) 04:24, 16 April 2016 (UTC)
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Winterysteppe (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))
Request reason:
here let me give a reason. I had the Altnernate Frigid Soil intended to be on computers not secure. I did not intend to Sockpuppet after that one account. As for the other accounts, I intended one of them to be a fresh start. The others can stay blocked but I definitely would appreciate using one to edit Wikipedia and leave this one behind. .
Decline reason:
Considering the extent of your confirmed socking, I can't see any admin unblocking you at the moment - I certainly will not, and I like to think I'm one of the more lenient ones. I think the advice from Oshwah below is spot on. I urge you to spend six months away from en.wiki and working on Simple, and then request unblock here under the Standard Offer with a good record on Simple to show how well you can work on Wikimedia projects. You should also seriously consider taking up Oshwah's kind offer of mentorship at Simple. If you go along with this suggestion, you're welcome to ping me here in six months when you make an unblock request, and I will consider it favourably. Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 11:12, 16 April 2016 (UTC)
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A message to you
Winterysteppe - It's honestly a real bummer to see you in this situation. You're a great guy to talk to, and it was always fun running into you on my talk page. From our interactions, I know that you're an intelligent person and your edits show that you're a dedicated editor on Wikipedia. That being said... I know that you know that you messed up, man. You knew that creating a sock puppet account was against Wikipedia policies and that it was the wrong thing to do, and the reason that you did so wasn't worth it. But... I also feel that, while you knew it wasn't okay to do what you did, you were unaware of the severity of the offense and the sanctions that would result from doing so. As I recommended to you earlier: you need to take a six-month break per Wikipedia's standard offer policy, focus your contributions on the Simple English Wikipedia while you wait, learn from your mistake, don't create any more accounts (lol), and come back when it's time. I really hope that you learn from this, that you don't give up and leave, and that I see you back here. I wish you the best of luck :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 10:21, 16 April 2016 (UTC)
- Oh, and I also edit on the Simple English Wikipedia. Can I be your mentor during the next six months? :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 10:23, 16 April 2016 (UTC)
Re: Socking
Well, it seems that another sock was blocked. Now, this really does beg a couple of simple questions:
- Are you still interested in editing Wikipedia now or in the future?
- How do you want to be remembered here?
- If you are not interested at all, then you can simply leave the confines of the computer screen and move on to something new. No more worrying about keeping your socks hidden or about getting unblocked. If, however, you are interested in coming back in the future, then the single worst thing you could possibly do for yourself would be to keep socking. Admins tend not to like that, to say the least. Just wait it out.
- As to my second point, you could try to get an unblock later, after a while. You never know, and you might just be able to rejoin the community. Or, you could simply step away and no one will think the worse of it.
Regards,
GABHello! 11:58, 26 April 2016 (UTC)
- @GeneralizationsAreBad:, if you mind joining me in the IRC #wikipedia-en, I would prefer to answer those questions there than here. Or, we can talk by email. Send me an email@ Winterysteppe (talk) 19:02, 26 April 2016 (UTC)
- I had the same thought as GAB and was disappointed to see a new sock blocked this week. As long as you continue down this road, you will never be able to edit as a regular editor and be able to collaborate with other editors. Socks are eventually discovered and Category:Wikipedia sockpuppets of Winterysteppe is already too full of accounts. Please take a break from Wikipedia and return in a few months with a sincere unblock request that can be considered so you might return to editing. Liz Read! Talk! 12:02, 27 April 2016 (UTC)
- @Liz:, and i take it you might consider a unblock request? Also, im not convinvced a sincere unblock request will be granted, even if I make a bunch of positive contributions to Simple.wiki. Winterysteppe (talk) 13:46, 27 April 2016 (UTC)
- I had the same thought as GAB and was disappointed to see a new sock blocked this week. As long as you continue down this road, you will never be able to edit as a regular editor and be able to collaborate with other editors. Socks are eventually discovered and Category:Wikipedia sockpuppets of Winterysteppe is already too full of accounts. Please take a break from Wikipedia and return in a few months with a sincere unblock request that can be considered so you might return to editing. Liz Read! Talk! 12:02, 27 April 2016 (UTC)
@Liz:, @GeneralizationsAreBad:, I have emailed both of you. If you care about that I have said, please respond. Winterysteppe (talk) 16:00, 29 April 2016 (UTC)
Please stop Messaging me here
As you can see, I am CheckUser blocked. However, I am offered a Standard Offer in 6 months time. I will log off permanently and not respond to any sort of messages. Please for the sake of God, EMAIL ME INSTEAD. I do not want to log in again. I'll see you all later. Winterysteppe (talk) 13:51, 27 April 2016 (UTC)
oh and @Oshwah:, I'll IRC message you when i get to the time to unblock request. Don't worry i'll put an effort on making Simple Wiki better. Winterysteppe (talk) 01:20, 28 April 2016 (UTC)
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I see you've been blocked over there too for the abuse of multiple accounts. My question to you is, Winterysteppe, do you actually wish to continue editing over here, or are you no longer interested in contributing positively? The thing is, I think you are a likable person, and I would endorse your unblock if you took the Standard Offer, but this needs to stop. You're now blocked on two wikis; what are your prospects here now? I agree with Oshwah, it is disappointing to see a productive editor like you messing up like this, and you know you're messing things up. My advice to you would be to just take a break from all wikis (there's plenty to do in the real world!), don't make any more accounts, and come back next year. That way, your request may still stand a chance of being accepted - because at the rate things are going, I don't see you getting unblocked. --PatientZero talk 16:49, 29 May 2016 (UTC)
- I'm going to notify Mike V, GeneralizationsAreBad, and Oshwah who have been more than helpful with this case. I would like to thank all parties involved, including those I didn't notify, for their patience in this matter. --PatientZero talk 16:51, 29 May 2016 (UTC)
- Really? Blocked on the Simple 'Pedia too? Muffled Pocketed 16:52, 29 May 2016 (UTC)
- @Patient Zero: -sure? I'm looking at the block log? Muffled Pocketed 16:56, 29 May 2016 (UTC)
- Fortuna Imperatrix Mundi - You put Winterysteppe as the performer. Easily done! Type his name into the other one. --PatientZero talk 16:56, 29 May 2016 (UTC)
- And there you have it. Cheers PZ. Gutting though. Muffled Pocketed 16:59, 29 May 2016 (UTC)
- Fortuna Imperatrix Mundi: here you go --PatientZero talk 16:58, 29 May 2016 (UTC)
- Apologies for the edit conflict Fortuna Imperatrix Mundi. I agree, it is disappointing, and what's more he knows he's messing things up... --PatientZero talk 17:02, 29 May 2016 (UTC)
- No worries PZ. Unfortunately the socking has carried on here too. Muffled Pocketed 17:06, 29 May 2016 (UTC)
- Still happening here Fortuna? What's the most recent account? --PatientZero talk 17:11, 29 May 2016 (UTC)
- Patient Zero User:Etimena, apparently. I wonder if we should take this to one of our TPs actually? Muffled Pocketed
- OK, Fortuna Imperatrix Mundi - should we continue under the burger? :) Thanks for the information. --PatientZero talk 17:19, 29 May 2016 (UTC)
- Patient Zero User:Etimena, apparently. I wonder if we should take this to one of our TPs actually? Muffled Pocketed
- Still happening here Fortuna? What's the most recent account? --PatientZero talk 17:11, 29 May 2016 (UTC)
- No worries PZ. Unfortunately the socking has carried on here too. Muffled Pocketed 17:06, 29 May 2016 (UTC)
- Apologies for the edit conflict Fortuna Imperatrix Mundi. I agree, it is disappointing, and what's more he knows he's messing things up... --PatientZero talk 17:02, 29 May 2016 (UTC)
- Fortuna Imperatrix Mundi - You put Winterysteppe as the performer. Easily done! Type his name into the other one. --PatientZero talk 16:56, 29 May 2016 (UTC)
- Hi Fortuna Imperatrix Mundi and Patient Zero. Thanks for notifying me about this information. I agree that this is very disappointing news. I honestly think that we did our very best to try and help him. It feels almost like a failure on my part, because I wanted very badly for him to learn and be able to come back. All I can say is that, from the very beginning (when he was indefinitely blocked on the English Wikipedia), he knew that what he was doing was wrong. He continued creating additional accounts despite his indefinite block here (again, knowing that it was a policy violation). The fact that he did this again on the Simple Wiki tells me that spending additional effort trying to mentor and coach him is a waste of time. He made his choice, and (as saddening as it is), I have to know when it's time to move on...... :-( ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 20:58, 29 May 2016 (UTC)
- Agreed, I think we're done here. The continued socking and cross-wiki abuse are past the point of no return. GABgab 21:01, 29 May 2016 (UTC)
- Thanks for your responses Oshwah and GeneralizationsAreBad. You haven't failed at all Oshwah, don't feel as if you have. --PatientZero talk 09:45, 30 May 2016 (UTC)
- Agreed, I think we're done here. The continued socking and cross-wiki abuse are past the point of no return. GABgab 21:01, 29 May 2016 (UTC)
- Sadly folks it appears that Wintereysteppe has lost any and all chance at redemption. He apparently opened a new sock (block evasion) account here at enwiki two months after being blocked, made a couple hundred edits, and then practically outed himself by adding questions in an RfA and an RfB. Not a particularly good strategy (see https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?limit=50&title=Special%3AContributions&contribs=user&target=FabledGold&namespace=&tagfilter=&year=2016&month=-1). Like everyone else I thought the work I saw showed the guy had real potential as an editor (even though we never "talked" anywhere) but now he has shot himself in the foot with a gangrene infected bullet. What a waste. It is obvious that this is a case of a user that no one could have saved. Kudos to Oshwah and others for trying (and you all really tried) but he never was a solvable problem to begin with. Koala Tea Of Mercy (KTOM's Articulations & Invigilations) 19:02, 5 July 2016 (UTC)
- Koala Tea Of Mercy - Ehh, he's opened more than just one. See here. :-( ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 23:30, 5 July 2016 (UTC)
- Oh now that is just plain
sadpathetic. Koala Tea Of Mercy (KTOM's Articulations & Invigilations) 01:11, 6 July 2016 (UTC) - BTW, that page should include Winterystoppe too. It's been blocked but apparently isn't associated with that list page. Koala Tea Of Mercy (KTOM's Articulations & Invigilations) 01:11, 6 July 2016 (UTC)
- @Koala Tea Of Mercy and Oshwah: The last time I checked the category of Winterysteppe's sock puppets a little while ago, there were 24 sock puppets. Now there's 27. It's very unfortunate. —MRD2014 T C 19:51, 6 July 2016 (UTC)
- Thanks for your help Koala Tea Of Mercy. Sadly this user's behaviour and socking can no longer be helped or prevented - it is time to move on. He's even personally attacked you on User talk:TheDwellerCamp in a previous revision. I do commend your perseverance with this user. --PatientZero talk 10:08, 7 July 2016 (UTC)
- Oh now that is just plain
- Koala Tea Of Mercy - Ehh, he's opened more than just one. See here. :-( ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 23:30, 5 July 2016 (UTC)
Yes, time to move on. Thank you. However, not being one to leave on a sour note I thought I might add a little levity to this situation... {{listen|filename=OopsIDitItAgainSample.ogg|title={{font|text=Winterysteppe's Theme Song|font=Comic Sans MS|size=14pt|color=blue}} |description={{font|text=Determined by a careful analysis of Wintereysteppe's '''''many''''' explanations for repeated sockery.|font=Comic Sans MS|size=11pt|color=red}} |pos=left |format=[[Ogg]]}} PING: Patient Zero, Fortuna Imperatrix Mundi, Etimena, Oshwah, GeneralizationsAreBad, MRD2014, Mike V
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- PMSL Koala Tea Of Mercy - made my day :-) --PatientZero talk 15:29, 7 July 2016 (UTC)
- Yep brilliant KToM even made listening to Britney bearable! Muffled Pocketed
- I may have performed a terrible rendition of this song on the karaoke machine on New Year's Eve last year Fortuna Imperatrix Mundi! :-) --PatientZero talk 15:38, 7 July 2016 (UTC)
- Yep brilliant KToM even made listening to Britney bearable! Muffled Pocketed
- PMSL Koala Tea Of Mercy - made my day :-) --PatientZero talk 15:29, 7 July 2016 (UTC)
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Winterysteppe (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))
Request reason:
Let's do this So I'm new here and I just joined a couple WikiProjects. I joined the Military History WikiProject and was going through the names and saw this guy, Winterysteppe, was blocked. Curious as always, I went to do some research on why he was blocked, if he appealed, etc., and saw what he did. I ALSO saw that he was allowed to appeal his ban in six months, around October 2016. I think that I could be his 'lawyer' for this appeal, see that he gets a fair 'trial' and whatnot (I watch a LOT of Law&Order). He obviously can't reply in any way, but I feel it would be in his best interest to have a random person with no bias represent him with their own argument, rather than him argue the same argument for a third time (we saw where that got him the other times). Let me ask a question to begin: [To what extent did Winterysteppe sock-puppet? How many fake accounts did he make and for what purpose did he use them?] Please do not make a decision on this appeal, but rather message me the answers to the questions I impose. I'll try to edit the appeal ASAP with my next question, and then the cycle repeats until I make my final statement and you make a decision. You guys don't even have to listen to me, but please give me a chance to argue for someone out of the best intentions. The questions will be in [brackets].
(If Winterysteppe is seeing this, I am not trying to destroy you or waste your ban appeal in any way. I am doing this out of the best of intentions. 'Random acts of kindess' and all that.)
Thank you for listening
Decline reason:
Unblock requests are only considered when made by the blocked user. Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 20:19, 4 October 2016 (UTC)
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Sockpuppet investigation
An editor has opened an investigation into sockpuppetry by you. Sockpuppetry is the use of more than one Wikipedia account in a manner that contravenes community policy. The investigation is being held at Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Winterysteppe, where the editor who opened the investigation has presented their evidence. Please make sure you make yourself familiar with the guide to responding to investigations, and then feel free to offer your own evidence or to submit comments that you wish to be considered by the Wikipedia administrator who decides the result of the investigation. If you have been using multiple accounts (in a manner contrary to Wikipedia policy), please go to the investigation page and verify that now. Leniency is usually shown to those who promise not to do so again, or who did so unwittingly, but the abuse of multiple accounts is taken very seriously by the Wikipedia community.