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Celia Kaye

Hi-Celia Kaye was born in Carthage, Missouri. The category is needed since she was born in Carthage, Missouri. Another category should also be used is Celia Kaye lived in Wilmington, Delaware. That should be used also. Many thanks-RFD (talk) 14:19, 23 May 2022 (UTC)

Great, thanks! VernoWhitney (talk) 14:24, 23 May 2022 (UTC)
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DYK for Celia Kaye

On 23 May 2022, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Celia Kaye, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Celia Kaye won the Golden Globe Award for Most Promising Newcomer in 1965 for her starring role in Island of the Blue Dolphins? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Celia Kaye. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Celia Kaye), and if they received a combined total of at least 416.7 views per hour (i.e., 5,000 views in 12 hours or 10,000 in 24), the hook may be added to the statistics page. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

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Precious

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Thank you for quality articles around art such as Henri-Pierre Picou, Charles-Amable Lenoir and Pioneer Woman, and around actors such as Celia Kaye, all beginning with Spreuerhofstraße in 2010, for work in copyright and for admin help, for the Japanese garden on your user page, - you are an awesome Wikipedian!

You are recipient no. 2742 of Precious, a prize of QAI. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:33, 23 May 2022 (UTC)

Thank you so much! VernoWhitney (talk) 15:40, 23 May 2022 (UTC)

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A barnstar for you!

The Copyright Cleanup Barnstar
Thank you for going through the VRT permission tickets at CCI. Your help is greatly appreciated! Keep up the good work :) MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 20:14, 26 May 2022 (UTC)
Thanks! VernoWhitney (talk) 11:49, 27 May 2022 (UTC)

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20:27, 30 May 2022 (UTC)

Hi VernoWhitney,

Sorry, I didn't know the protocol about talk before replying,

yes, it's all rather complicated, but it seems odd that laws and rules written by Government to citizens, are themselves copyright.

Can the text of any law be quoted and posted ? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sean4780 (talk • contribs) 17:01, 19 May 2022 (UTC)

@Sean4780: Thank you. Yes, the text of laws can be quoted and posted (a couple of admins helped remind me of that where I posted a question on Talk:Reverse Discrimination (EU Law)). Now whether all of the laws should be quoted or not, is a different question. We're looking for encyclopedia articles, not simply compendiums of laws/material found elsewhere. So too many quotations can be a bad thing (WP:QUOTEFARM), but I'm not prepared to judge what's appropriate for the article you're writing--I generally focus on copyright aspects of things and not as much on the content; I'll leave that to others.
My concern about the image is that it's not actual laws - just a restatement of them by an employee of the Department of Justice (which I'm pretty sure is copyrighted, but admins at Commons are much more familiar with international copyright law than I am).
My only remaining copyright concern about the text of the article are the quotations from the conformity studies, which might be copyrighted. They look like they were prepared by a company for a university, not by a government (and even then, as I indicated above with the image, some governments can claim copyright on some things). VernoWhitney (talk) 17:17, 19 May 2022 (UTC)
Hi,
Am I able to quote from the following work.
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This work is licensed under the Creative Commons Attribution − Non-Commercial − No Derivatives 4.0 International License.
Suggested citation: N Jarak, ‘Fundamental Rights of EU Citizens in Purely Internal Situations: From Reverse Discrimination to Incorporation?’ (2021) 17 CYELP 41
------------------------------------- Sean4780 (talk) 12:47, 23 May 2022 (UTC)
Since the license is non-commerical and no-derivatives we can't incorporate it wholesale (WP:COMPLIC has a short table with a list of CC licenses we can and can't accept) - so it can be quoted, but to a limited extent just like any other copyrighted work. Short quotations can be used where it is required to establish context or attribute a specific idea, but they shouldn't be used when we can convey the same information in a summary format. WP:COPYQUOTE and WP:NFC#Acceptable use of text have the details. VernoWhitney (talk) 13:01, 23 May 2022 (UTC)
Hi, just to mention, the conformity studies came from the EU Commission.
Wasn't there a clarification "any material published by the EU government body is in the public domain"
This is written on the conformity study
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Submitted to: Michal Meduna, European Commission DG JLS/C3 Rue de Luxembourg 46 1000-Bruxelles
Submitted by: Milieu Ltd. (Belgium) Europa Institute, University of Edinburgh
Date of submission: 18 December 2008
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Hope it helps.
kind regards Sean4780 (talk) 18:19, 25 May 2022 (UTC)
That's submitted to the European Commission, but created by the Milieu and/or the Europa Institute. In the US, every work created by the federal government is in the public domain. Sadly, that doesn't mean that everything created by contractors (who are paid by the government) for the government is also in the public domain. If it always worked that way we'd have many more free sources to work with. VernoWhitney (talk) 19:05, 25 May 2022 (UTC)
here is the EU copyright law on documents that comes from the European Commission
http://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/PDF/?uri=CELEX:32011D0833&qid=1495026738506&from=EN
Scope: This Decision applies to public documents produced by the Commission or by public and private entities on its behalf:
(a) which have been published by the Commission or by the Publications Office on its behalf through publications, websites or dissemination tools; or
(b) which have not been published for economic or other practical reasons, such as studies, reports and other data.
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Hope it helps Sean4780 (talk) 11:30, 28 May 2022 (UTC)
That "on its behalf" part sounds promising. Thanks for digging this up. I'll check into this a bit further in the next few days. VernoWhitney (talk) 19:37, 29 May 2022 (UTC)
Milieu was kind enough to reply to my query, and clarified that "The copyright of this report is indeed owned by the European Commission"... "it can indeed be quoted"...
However it then finished the email off with automatic barb
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it's copyright inception, Sean4780 (talk) 07:03, 2 June 2022 (UTC)
reply from EU commission
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Thank you for your request dated 28 May 2022 passed on to me for follow-up as a member of the section responsible for dealing with European Union copyright matters.
The studies mentioned in your email were performed in the framework of a contract, therefore the copyright belongs to the European Union. The fact that copyright is by the EU does not mean that the work is in public domain. You can find the rules for reuse of the European Commission’ documents in the following decision: EUR-Lex - 32011D0833 - EN - EUR-Lex (europa.eu).
https://eur-lex.europa.eu/eli/dec/2011/833/oj
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