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Painting17 (talk) 01:13, 9 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hey there. Looks like you know how to make redirects now. Congrats! I noticed you've been doing some mass category depopulation, so I wanted to refer you to this tool which will make your life a LOT easier from the category pages: User:קיפודנחש/cat-a-lot. From one screen you can remove categories and customize the edit summary. Try HotCat as well in Preferences>Gadgets>HotCat. It makes adding cats to individual pages easier. It would speed up depopulating a bit, but Cat-a-Lot would definitely be the better tool for mass depopulating or moving. Happy editing! -2pou (talk) 16:53, 13 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hi thanks for your contribution to the page. I just wanted to make you aware that the plot summaries have recently been reduced down to 500 words per season per MOS:TVPLOT which inevitably means leaving out some of the detail. Can we avoid adding more detail to the summaries in future so that we can maintain this word count? I will add a hidden note to the page to reflect this. Thanks Fieryninja (talk) 07:03, 8 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, Painting17. Regarding your inquiry in this edit summary, what you did works just fine. But to do it all at once, you would need to enclose the requested redirects in brackets [[]] and separate them however you want (comma, slash, hyphen, space, etc. All should work.). For the linked example it would be this:

{{subst:^|<!-- Do not change or remove this line -->}}{{subst:Request redirect
|1=<!-- Enter the title of the new redirect you would like created below this line -->
[[White Vision (Marvel Cinematic Universe)]] / [[White Vision (MCU)]]

|2=<!-- Enter the name of the existing page that you want the redirect to point to below this line -->
Vision (Marvel Cinematic Universe)

|3=<!-- Enter the reason for the new redirect (e.g. alternative name, common misspelling, etc.) below this line -->
Alternate version (the new, white Vision that appears in WandaVision). He is commonly referred to as "White Vision". He was also called "White Vision" by [[Jac Schaeffer]].

|4=<!-- Unless it is obvious, please enter a reliable source which supports your reason below this line -->

<!-- Do not change or remove this line -->}}

Make sense? If you don't enclose in brackets, the script will do it for you, but only for a single request. If you use brackets, it will just use your text. You know how to create these on your own, though; you just made two. Are there other questions making you hesitant on creating these ones in particular? -2pou (talk) 00:53, 12 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Thankyou for your comment on the article's talk page. I have now created the Atkin & Low family tree which includes those you mentioned. Best wishes. Daemonickangaroo2018 (talk) 14:43, 24 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I have fixed some of the family trees that you have edited in order to help them comply with MOS:FONTSIZE. Also, <small /> is not valid markup. Instead, use <small>...</small>. – Jonesey95 (talk) 02:01, 26 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Hi, you have listed James A. Garfield for TFA at pending. I have tentatively reserved a date for it for February, but if you would still like it be considered you will need to nominate it at Wikipedia:Today's featured article/requests. Cheers. Gog the Mild (talk) 16:29, 2 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Painting17, I noticed you are doing a lot of good work here, and thanks for that! Just a small note: please don't draftify test articles such as Cragdor the Destroyer."test" and "wait crap this isn't my profile" can just be speedy deleted. When draftifying please notify the page creator, and nominate the leftover redirect for speedy deletion under R2. You can read more about all that at WP:DRAFTIFY. Thanks! – NJD-DE (talk) 00:27, 23 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

You're right! I was trying to get the article out of the mainspace as fast as possible, but completely forgot about speedy deletion. I suppose this is an example ofWP:RUSHDELETE. Painting17 (talk) 00:43, 23 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

No worries. Actually I had already tagged it for speedy deletion but probably you were still looking at the older revision of the article when you moved it. Anyway, thanks for helping to get this out of mainspace! :) – NJD-DE (talk) 00:48, 23 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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For some reason, I assumed that the IP that did the reverting was an IP-hopping sockpuppet of the other IP. I really have no idea what I was thinking.  Self-trout Painting17 (talk) 23:42, 22 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hello I would appreciate you not censoring the wonderful life of Jason Evert. Thanks!Hudsolo1 (talk) 17:04, 30 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Commenting at AIV is rarely helpful, and this comment doesn't make much sense anyway as a CU would be fairly useless. PRAXIDICAE💕 18:28, 22 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the note. Painting17 (talk) 18:30, 22 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Could you please expand the Birley family tree? Mark and Annabel had a second son, Rupert, and India Jane has married three times. No Swan So Fine (talk) 21:01, 13 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@No Swan So Fine I haven't edited tree templates in almost a year, but I can probably do it assuming it passes the notability guidelines. I might have a bit of trouble formatting three marriages. Painting17 (talk) 22:32, 13 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Many thanks, I do find them helpful when navigating biographies. No Swan So Fine (talk) 22:35, 13 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Unfortunately, I couldn't add them. None of them have articles and the template just doesn't have room. If appropriate, I can certainly add infoboxes each article to help navigation. There is also a category for them at Category:Birley family. Apologies for the inconvenience, and I hope this helps. Painting17 (talk) 23:04, 13 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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I've noticed that you are one of the participants on the Wikiprojects page for Popular culture. I've made a nomination for the popular culture music group BTS for featured article. Any interest in participating and maybe making some comments? ErnestKrause (talk) 15:44, 20 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@ErnestKrause frankly, I forgot I was still in that WikiProject. I don't have much interest in doing so, but I wish you luck in your nomination. Painting17 (talk) 15:55, 20 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

An article you recently created, Shooting Stars (2023 film), is not suitable as written to remain published. It needs more citations from reliable, independent sources. (?) Information that can't be referenced should be removed (verifiability is of central importance on Wikipedia). I've moved your draft to draftspace (with a prefix of "Draft:" before the article title) where you can incubate the article with minimal disruption. When you feel the article meets Wikipedia's general notability guideline and thus is ready for mainspace, please click on the "Submit your draft for review!" button at the top of the page. Star Mississippi 15:34, 15 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Star Mississippi I'm quite confused. I never moved the Shooting Stars draft into the mainspace, nor did I ever nominate it for review. Painting17 (talk) 18:49, 15 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hi @Painting17. That was done by @Bennyvenny with this edit. They should not have done so without your OK. It hasn't been submitted for review yet, so feel free to continue working on it where you were. Star Mississippi 19:48, 15 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Oh, that makes a lot more sense. Thanks! Painting17 (talk) 20:02, 15 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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I added a row in awards for Obama's Emmy and you cleaned my links. Thank you. Cooper Cjager (talk) 06:12, 5 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Painting17, if you would still like Ernie Fletcher to run as a TFA, it is time to nominate it at Wikipedia:Today's featured article/requests. Thanks. Gog the Mild (talk) 14:20, 5 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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I see that you have listed this for 9 July's TFA. I can't see that you have edited the article recently, so can I ask a couple of questions. Have you consulted the main editor(s)? Have you checked that this 2009 article is still up to current FA standards? Jimfbleak - talk to me? 13:08, 6 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Honestly, the answers to all of these are "no". At the time, I nominated TFAs based on their anniversaries without accounting for quality. Painting17 (talk) 14:15, 19 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Thank you for your submission to Wikipedia, and happy editing. ✗plicit 00:21, 1 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, I can't see any point in getting into an editing fight about mentioning the deceased older brother of Harrison Ruffin Tyler, Lyon Gardiner Tyler, in the article on HRT. Can we come to an amicable agreement that the older brother should at least be mentioned in the article on HRT? Do you have some specific reason to justify not mentioning the older brother and grandson of John Tyler?

https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2020/12/26/lyon-gardiner-tyler-jr-a-bridge-to-another-era-446623

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/10/07/us/lyon-gardiner-tyler-jr-dead.html

Thanks,

Pascalulu88 (talk) 01:04, 25 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I think the recent edits by TJMSmith have dealt with this adequately. Painting17 (talk) 03:09, 25 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I agree that the work in historical restoration that HRT has done merits an article for him, but, nevertheless, the reason that HRT and his brother Lyon Gardiner Tyler were both well known to the general public was because of their longevity as grandsons of a president who was born in 1790. I see no harm in mentioning this fact in the article on HRT esp. since LGT does not have an independent article about him, despite his being adequate to receive a prominent obituary in the New York Times. But I will add this text in a way that does not in any way denigrate the notability of HRT in his own right. Fair, or do you still object? Pascalulu88 (talk) 21:42, 27 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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