I want to start a stub or biography for business woman Ellen Vannessa daughter of Phillip Chiyangwa. Her dad is already on Wikipedia and she is listed as her daughter. Please help?Munya29 (talk) 06:43, 17 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

She would not merit an article simply because her dad may merit an article; notability is not inherited. She will need to have been written about in independent reliable sources with in depth coverage, that indicates how she meets the notability guidelines for biographies. Such sources do not include things like interviews, press releases, or a personal website. If you have appropriate sources, I would suggest using Articles for Creation to create and submit a draft for review, which will allow you to get feedback on it before it is formally placed in the encyclopedia, instead of afterwards. 331dot (talk) 09:17, 17 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Please note, the basis of the article is not that her dad merits an article, it is because she is an African entrepreneur making an impact and is a public figure. Business Insider is one of the most reliable independent sources around and they wrote about her. Munya29 (talk) 15:24, 21 November 2018 (UTC) I have created a draft already and submitted it for review. The draft has a bit more info than what i put on here. Munya29 (talk) 15:26, 21 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Vincent60030 was:

This submission's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article—that is, they do not show significant coverage (not just passing mentions) about the subject in published, reliable, secondary sources that are independent of the subject (see the guidelines on the notability of people). Before any resubmission, additional references meeting these criteria should be added (see technical help). If no additional references exist, the subject is not suitable for Wikipedia.

 The comment the reviewer left was:

Wikipedia is not a source as well. Wikilink is enough.

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VKZY^LUFan (talk) (Mind the Gap!) 09:57, 23 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Munya29! Having an article declined at Articles for Creation can be disappointing. If you are wondering why your article submission was declined, please post a question at the Articles for creation help desk. If you have any other questions about your editing experience, we'd love to help you at the Teahouse, a friendly space on Wikipedia where experienced editors lend a hand to help new editors like yourself! See you there! VKZYLUFan (talk) (Mind the Gap!) 09:57, 23 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Munya29. It has been over six months since you last edited the Articles for Creation submission or Draft page you started, "Ellen Vannessa".

In accordance with our policy that Wikipedia is not for the indefinite hosting of material deemed unsuitable for the encyclopedia mainspace, the draft has been nominated for deletion. If you plan on working on it further, or editing it to address the issues raised if it was declined, simply and remove the {{db-afc}}, {{db-draft}}, or {{db-g13}} code.

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Thanks for your submission to Wikipedia, and happy editing. CASSIOPEIA^(talk) 05:10, 25 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]