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User talk:Legolas2186/Fixing citation problems

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This is a workpage for cleaning up article sourcing problems that have been traced to editing work performed by User:Legolas2186. Relevant articles are mainly about songs, albums and singers such as Madonna and Lady Gaga, but there are other areas of concern. The WikiProject Madonna, WikiProject Albums, WikiProject Songs and WikiProject Concert Tours have been notified.

Interested editors are invited to address problems that have been listed here, and to look through Legolas2186's contributions to identify new issues to be brought here for consideration. Binksternet (talk) 18:36, 25 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Madonna: Like an Icon

I removed the following reference from Madonna: Like an Icon after failing to get a satisfactory response at Talk:Madonna: Like an Icon/GA1:

Christina Jansen is a photographer, not a writer. Binksternet (talk) 18:36, 25 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
A search of People magazine website does not show such an article, nor can I find "Christina Jansen" who is meant to be the author. Darkness Shines (talk) 19:29, 15 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
I regret to say that I can find no evidence of that People Weekly article in databases that catalog the magazine. That issue doesn't even seem to exist. --Laser brain (talk) 20:17, 15 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Agreed. A People issue from January 2008 would be one of the following:
  • Vol. 69 Issue 3 - 1/28/2008
  • Vol. 69 Issue 2 - 1/21/2008
  • Vol. 69 Issue 1 - 1/14/2008
not volume 581 issue 50 dated January 5th. A database search turned up no articles by that title or author. Major US magazines have different overseas versions, so this editor may be using the Indian version of People, if such a thing exists. But that would have a different ISSN, and the ISSN provided is for the US People. Gamaliel (talk) 20:55, 15 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
So far as I can tell. The 'Christina Jansen' reference was first used in this edit in the editors sandbox of January 12 2012. That edit has no issn, volume or issue number but an edit 33 minutes later does. Regards, SunCreator (talk) 20:39, 14 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Keep It Together (Madonna song)

I changed the first, unverifiable article to the second one:

I deleted the following cite:

I looked for it but came to the conclusion that it was unverifiable. Binksternet (talk) 18:36, 25 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

It is not just the references listed above. [1] - in that edit a vast amount of information was added, including the sentence With SongTalk magazine, Madonna explained that "isolated by fame and shaken by the failure of my marriage, I could only reach out to the stability of my family roots, and 'Keep It Together' is for that only." supposedly sourced by one of the references listed above and page 122 of the book Madonna: Like an Icon by Lucy O'Brien. The book is viewable on 'Look inside' option on Amazon.com, and there is nothing of the kind on page 122. Page 131 does however say There is the sense that Madonna, isolated by fame and shaken by the failure of her marriage, is reaching back to the stability of family roots. but that is written solely by the author, and not a quote from Madonna. I find the suggestion that an editor has fabricated references and a quote from a living person to be very troubling, and would suggest this is moved to another noticeboard. 86.186.68.76 (talk) 20:37, 15 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
[2] According to that book the edition was published in August 1989, several months after the alleged May 1989 publication date. From what I have been able to learn about SongTalk it was published quarterly with "Spring", "Summer", "Fall" and "Winter" names used not months. [3] There is a full transcript of the interview from the summer 1989 edition, it does not contain the quote attributed to Madonna, so neither of the references added are real even if we accept by "May 1989" what was really meant was "Summer 1989". I have no reason to doubt the accuracy of the transcript as it matches the excerpt in the book I linked to, I certainly believe it more than Legolas2186 at this point. 86.186.68.76 (talk) 20:57, 15 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
The edit that added 'a vast amount of information' seems to be a copy/paste from the users Sandbox2 here. Regards, SunCreator (talk) 20:31, 14 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Oh Father

I changed the first, unverifiable article to the second one:

I removed the following cite and text that was attributed to it:

In the same removal I took out some ideas that were attributed to author Allen Metz but which I could not find in his book, The Madonna Companion: Two Decades of Commentary. If anyone can find support for the idea that the songs lyric refers to both God and Madonna's own father, then please bring that back to the article. Binksternet (talk) 18:36, 25 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Saqib Saleem

The following print source needs to be confirmed:

  • Deb, Anupama (2011-11-09). "Saqib Saleem: From Cricketer to Actor". Starweek Magazine. Bennett & Coleman Ltd: 19–22.

Some discussion at Talk:Saqib_Saleem#Major question about major source, more at Talk:Saqib Saleem/GA2 where the article's GA status is being questioned. Binksternet (talk) 18:36, 25 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I took out the Starweek magazine article as unverified. The article may retain its GA status even though it is pretty short. Of course, the actor is new to the business and he has not done much work. Binksternet (talk) 16:35, 27 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
The article was reassessed for a month and it has been delisted. Binksternet (talk) 15:10, 18 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The Secret of the Nagas

Another suspicious article that needs to be checked is the following reference added by Legolas2186 in September 2011 to expand the article The Secret of the Nagas toward the GA goal (the edit summary was "Major expansion for GA of the article"):

I cannot find Rana Sachdeva among the contributors to The Times of India, and I cannot find the specified article. Here's a list of articles that appeared on 10 December 2010, the date indicated on the cite, but none of them are the cited article or a near miss.

The same "expansion for GA" brought a second suspicious cite:

The cite supports a supposed quote, "Though the story is fictional, its characters and historical descriptions are factual." This quote is not found anywhere online except Wikipedia and its mirrors. Same with the article title. The author, Preetika Mathew Sahay, appears to be an associate editor of the Indian edition of Harper's Bazaar, but I cannot find anything she wrote about The Secret of the Nagas or an article titled "Mythical Magic". Searching the main Harper's Bazaar website turned up nothing. Binksternet (talk) 22:56, 19 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Express Yourself (Madonna song)

Here are two Legolas2186 cites that need to be investigated, taken from Express Yourself (Madonna song):

  • Jones, Alan (1989-12-26). "Bangles Ride to the Top". Music Week. 25: 45.

Alan Jones certainly composes chart information for Music Week, but I don't know if he wrote an article called "Bangles Ride to the Top" in 1989. The fact that is supported by the Jones cite is that BPI certified 200,000 units sold. However, in this 2008 article by Jones the sales figure reported was 194,102; slightly short of the 200k mark. I cannot find any trace online of a notional article called "Bangles Ride to the Top". Binksternet (talk) 01:50, 20 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]


Le Parisien's website allows the reader to search for past articles, but I was unable to find one with the proper title. Perhaps this is because the 1989 articles are not online. At any rate, I was not able to find, say, a book that cites the article. Moreover, I was not able to confirm the existence of any person named Charlotte Rowsdoom, a very unusual name that should immediately leap out from an online search. Binksternet (talk) 01:50, 20 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I deleted the text and cite because there is no trace of anyone named Charlotte Rowsdoom. Binksternet (talk) 23:16, 28 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Like a Prayer (song)

In the article Like a Prayer (song), Legolas2186 added a cite to 1989 Advertising Age to support a quote. The quote was about people viewing an advertisement with Madonna drinking Pepsi. The 1989 magazine is not online but the quote can be found online in a book: page 230 of Embodied Voices: Representing Female Vocality in Western Culture. The authors cite Advertising Age volume 76, just like Legolas added on July 4, 2011. I question the volume number, because by 2009 the magazine was in its 80th volume, with new volumes appearing annually. If annual volumes were used back to 1989, then the volume would have been 60, not 76. Anyway, Legolas changed the volume from 76 to 231 on August 13, 2011, completely making up a volume number and changing "76" from volume to page number. In the same edit, Legolas also added a fictional volume number for the Village Voice, volume 1309. If he had looked for the volume number as cited by other works, he might have found "Leslie Savan, "Desperately Selling Soda," Village Voice 34, no. 11, 14 Mar. 1989, 47", cited by Carla Freccero in "Our Lady of MTV: Madonna's 'Like A Prayer'". The Legolas volume of 1309 is ridiculously wrong. The same Savan cite is slightly wrong in Embodied Voices, the online source where Legolas probably saw it. The guideline at Wikipedia:Citing sources#Say where you read it says Legolas should have quoted the Embodied Voices book, not an old magazine issue that he was unable to access. He certainly should not have played around with volumes and page numbers. Binksternet (talk) 02:44, 20 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The Monster Ball Tour

To expand the article The Monster Ball Tour "for GA", Legolas2186 added text and cites including a recent article from a modern magazine:

This article cannot be found on Rolling Stone's website but it should be plainly visible, being from 2010. Legolas used it to support a quote: "a Catholic school girl on the run to discover herself, and on the way she finds the Monster Ball." This quote is not found in any reliable sources. Binksternet (talk) 02:57, 20 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Vijender Singh

  • Vijender Singh is (somehow) a GA. Legolas2186 began the push for GA and in that very first edit added a citation for a previously unsourced statement regarding the subject's education. I have just removed it because the source appears to support nothing in that statement. I am also removing other cites/requesting cites in that article. At one point, Legolas2186 has used a pre-marriage interview as support for the guy actually getting married, and it is a bit closely paraphrased also. - Sitush (talk) 14:56, 20 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • In the initial "GA push" edit, Legolas2186 adds, inter alia, that "In 1990, boxer Raj Kumar Sangwan got the Arjuna Award; a craze for boxing increased then. The sport became one of the main avenues to get a job in India." His source (after I fixed the url) says "After Raj Kumar Sangwan got the Arjuna Award for boxing (in the late 1990s), a craze for the sport increased. Coming from a poor family, it was one of the main avenues to get a job." This, remarkably, seems to be both a close paraphrase and an apparent misrepresentation of the source! I would appreciate a second opinion before I try to do something about it. - Sitush (talk) 15:16, 20 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

4 Minutes (Madonna song)

Another wave of investigation for 4 Minutes (Madonna song) here. --Laser brain (talk) 22:41, 21 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Madonna (entertainer)

  • Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Madonna (entertainer)/archive1 had a good level of support from knowledgeable and competent FA writers and reviewers, but there are two reasons it should be very carefully scrutinized:
    1. It's a highly viewed BLP
    2. I can't decipher why I didn't request a source spotcheck before promoting it-- sometimes that's because the editor's work was checked elsewhere but I can't locate that here.

So, Legolas hasn't logged in since Feb 12; that's alarming. I suggest that one way forward for him (that is to avoid being blocked), is that he tell us which FAs and GAs he falsified sources on, so those can be cleaned up or delisted. If he does that honestly, he could be granted a reprieve from an indefinite block (subject to mentorship perhaps by someone willing to monitor his work). If he doesn't do that-- or gives a response that is later found to be false-- he is blocked indef. Madonna needs to be checked by someone with access. I agree that an editor with a track record like this is likely to continue or to sock, which is why I suggest that we find a way forward involving him coming clean now and being allowed to edit with supervision. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 15:06, 20 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I have started investigating Madonna (entertainer) and found an alarmingly high rate of misapplied sources, although none so far that are completely fabricated. See here. This is going to be a lot of work. --Laser brain (talk) 22:41, 21 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I started a FAR at Wikipedia:Featured article review/Madonna (entertainer)/archive1. I will link this discussion on that page. Binksternet (talk) 18:36, 25 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

This has now been delisted from FA status. Dana boomer (talk) 14:07, 29 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Get Together (Madonna song)

At Get Together (Madonna song), Legolas2186 performed a "major expansion for GA" way back in July 2009. He added a link to an interview of Nathaniel Howe, a 3D animator and PR/branding artist. The link was to the "Drowned Madonna" fansite which is no longer working: http://www.drownedmadonna.com/modules.php?name=nathaniel_howe. The Wayback Machine has the interview here, archived from July 2007. Legolas misrepresented that Howe was interviewed by Madonna's official website Icon, but the link is to the fansite Drowned Madonna, and the interviewer calls him- or herself "Drowned Madonna", not Icon. Up to this point, the quote is accurate and the text from the website is accurately summarized, but the website is a weak source, arguably not reliable enough.

The next change that Legolas made to the cite is a more serious infraction. In November 2010 he deleted the dead link to Drowned Madonna and instead asserted that the cite came from a print copy of Icon magazine, volume 23, number 11. Icon magazine was not published in volumes but in issues, according to this eBay guide to back issues. The eBay guide implies that the August 2006 issue of Icon would have been issue #45, not 23 or 11. I seriously doubt that the clunky and amateurish Drowned Madonna interview was carried by the glossy print magazine Icon. Binksternet (talk) 18:00, 20 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Non-English Wikipedia

Unfortunately, some of the problematic citations have migrated from English Wikipedia to the corresponding articles in other language Wikipedias. I have fixed the following problems in French Wikipedia:

Beyond a clunky and uninspired grade school French I have little other foreign language skill. Can some multilingual editors take a look at other language wikis? Thanks in advance. Binksternet (talk) 20:37, 3 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Madonna albums discography

Checked three of the print sources used in this FL by doing a ProQuest search, and all appear questionable:

I was unable to find an article with this title in this issue, and there were no articles by a Susan Hue. Also, I don't recall any page numbers as high as 26 in the articles ProQuest listed. Note that this source is also used in the FL Mariah Carey albums discography; I haven't checked who placed it there.

  • John, Alan (2010-05-03). "Roll Deep rolls deep in the chart". Music Week. 51 (14). London: 56. ISSN 0265-1548.

An issue with the date May 3, 2012 apparently doesn't exist; the dates ProQuest listed surrounding that time are May 1 and May 8. An article with this title isn't listed, and again I see no articles by the purported author.

  • Paoletta, Michael (2001-12-15). "The Beat Box". Billboard. 113 (50). Nielsen Business Media, Inc: 30. ISSN 0006-2510. {{cite journal}}: |access-date= requires |url= (help)

Again, the issue date is either incorrect or fabricated, as there's no issue with this date. There's no article of this title in either of the surrounding issues, the given author has no articles in either issue, and the volume and issue numbers are incorrect for the time period (the volume was 123, not 113, and the issue was not 50). Refs 110 and 113 are also in print form, but I didn't check those. What I found in the three I did review is concerning enough. Giants2008 (Talk) 23:28, 10 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The following cite appears bogus:
  • Hadden, Briton; Luce, Henry Robinson (2005-12-09). "I gotta remember something". Time 153 (17–25). ISSN 0040-781X
  • Time was published on December 5 and 12 that year, not 9. There is no article called "I gotta remember something" in any of the December 2005 issues, or any other time. Briton and Luce founded Time magazine in the '20s and were long dead by 2005. Binksternet (talk) 02:11, 11 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Regarding the #113 cite: Arthington, Mirra (2007-10-07). "Warner finds solace in farewell CD", Music Week appears archived on Highbeam Business, Goliath Business News and Access My Library. It looks legit. Binksternet (talk) 02:11, 11 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

These "sources" were cited extensively at the article, so Giants2008 initiated a Featured List Review at Wikipedia:Featured list removal candidates/Madonna albums discography/archive1. Interested persons are encouraged to comment there, and to see if the featured status can be retained without the sources and dependent text. Binksternet (talk) 05:34, 11 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Billboard magazine is easily verifiable online, most of their issues were uploaded on Google Books. With that being said there is an issue dated December 15, 2001; there is an author called Michael Paoletta, there is an article called "The Beat Box", the volume is indeed 113 and the issue is 50. [5] Frcm1988 (talk) 03:26, 12 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
I see you are correct in that Paoletti published his "The Beat Box" on December 15, 2001. The URL proves it! However, it also proves that the reference was used incorrectly in the Madonna discography. It was used to say that GHV2 Remixed: The Best of 1991–2001 was a promotional album. Instead, Paoletti talks about a different beast, a promotional single holding remixes by Johnny Rocks & Mac Quayle. Paoletti does not say anything about an album. Binksternet (talk) 04:54, 12 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, he apparently mixed the releases, the Megamix which is referred on the Billboard article is this 3-track promotional single [6], the GHV2 Remixed: The Best of 1991–2001 was indeed a promo album that consisted on 2 cds but this release is not mentioned on the article.[7] Regards. Frcm1988 (talk) 14:10, 12 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Useful tool

I recommend the use of http://toolserver.org/~tparis/blame/ for an additional check of who originated the citation problems. Regards, SunCreator (talk) 22:10, 14 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Good advice! I have used the tool; it can be useful. Sometimes it has choked and given me no answer, but when it gives an answer I find it helpful. I don't know whether it is able to report multiple instances of people putting the same exact phrase into the article. Binksternet (talk) 22:24, 14 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, it does. In this example it find that both Legolas and ClueBot inserted the text. Regards, SunCreator (talk) 23:25, 14 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hey You (Madonna song)

I removed two bad references and the text supposedly taken from them:

  • Ben Wener from the Orange County Register called the song to be deftly balancing the no-nonsense statements for the dramatic set she performed in the concert.
  • Clive Young and Steve Harvey from the International Pro Sound News called the song to be risky.
    • Young, Clive (2007-07-10). "Live Earth Rocks the World". Pro Sound News. (International). 29 (7). New York: 3. ISSN 08876498. {{cite journal}}: |access-date= requires |url= (help); Check |issn= value (help)

First off, the grammar was terrible, and whatever words that were used by the notional authors were not in quotes.

Second, the music reviewer Ben Wener of the OC Register did not write any article by that name, and did not review the song Hey You. Here's what he was writing in July 2007: http://soundcheck.ocregister.com/2007/07/page/2/ It is clear that he wrote about Live Earth but not about Madonna or the song.

Third, the Pro Sound News article does not exist. Clive Young really does write articles for PSN but not this one. Here are the PSN article from July 2007: http://www.prosoundnetwork.com/section/unsorted-news/73/page/326 Nothing like the cited article. Binksternet (talk) 02:54, 11 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hard Candy (Madonna album)

I removed the following text and reference:

  • Neil Tennant revealed they were contacted again the same week and were told that Warner had changed their mind. "We got told to forget it as they decided to shove her down the R&B route".

David Bourgeois never wrote the supposed piece in Spin. Instead, the quote comes from the madonnalicious fansite: http://madonnalicious.typepad.com/madonnalicious/2009/03/pet-shop-boys-asked-to-write-and-produce-hard-candy.html

The fansite is not sufficiently high quality to be used in regard to WP:BLP concerns. Binksternet (talk) 03:41, 11 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Tony Power in Blender magazine

Blender magazine started in the mid-1990s, not the 1980s. There is little reason for the magazine to review albums and songs released before it went live online. Binksternet (talk) 06:24, 11 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

  • Madonna (album):
    • Tony Power from Blender said that the album consisted of "quacking synths, overperky bass and state-of-the-art mechanical disco, with Madonna strapped to the wing rather than holding the controls. It's a breathless, subtlety-free debut, with overtones of Soft Cell and Tom Tom Club."
      Power, Tony (1983-01-01). "Madonna – Blender". Blender. Alpha Media Group. ISSN 1534-0554. {{cite news}}: |access-date= requires |url= (help)
      • fr:Madonna (album)
        • Tony Power de Blender dit que l'album comportait "des synthés cancanant, une basse plus vive et le mécanisme disco le plus avancé, avec Madonna qui préfère s'attacher aux ailes plutôt que de tenir les rênes. C'est un souffle, le début d'une liberté subtile avec des notes de Soft Cell et de Tom Tom Club."
          {{Lien web |url=http://www.blender.com/guide/back-catalogue/52747/madonna.html |titre=Madonna |auteur=Tony Power |date={{1er}} janvier 1983 |site=[[Blender (magazine)|Blender]] |consulté le=30 mai 2010 }}
  • Material Girl
    • Tony Power from Blender called the song ambitious.
      Power, Tony (1985-01-01). "Like a Virgin – Review". Blender. Alpha Media Group. Retrieved 2010-01-11.
      • es:Material Girl
        • Tony Power de Blender llamó al tema «ambicioso».
          {{cita web|url=http://www.blender.com/guide/back-catalogue/54916/like-virgin.html|título=Like a Virgin – Review|apellido=Power|nombre=Tony|fecha=1 de enero de 1985|obra=[[Blender (magazine)|Blender]]|editorial=Alpha Media Group|fechaacceso=6 de mayo de 2012|idioma= inglés|fechaarchivo =1985-2012|urlarchivo=http://archive.wikiwix.com/cache/?url=http://www.blender.com/guide/back-catalogue/54916/like-virgin.html}}
      • fr:Material Girl
        • Tony Power de Blender trouve la chanson ambitieuse. {{Lien web |url=http://www.blender.com/guide/back-catalogue/54916/like-virgin.html |titre={{lang|en|Like a Virgin - Review}} |auteur=Tony Power |date=1{{er}} janvier 1985 |site=Blender |consulté le=11 juin 2010 }}.
  • Who's That Girl (Madonna song)
    • Although Tony Power of Blender magazine criticized the whole soundtrack, he considered "Who's That Girl" to be its standout track.
      Power, Tony (January 1, 1987). "Review:Madonna – Who's That Girl". Blender. Alpha Media Group Inc. {{cite web}}: Missing or empty |url= (help)
      • de:Who’s That Girl (Madonna-Lied)
        • Nur Tony Power vom Blender Magazin kritisierte das ganze Soundtrackalbum und hielt Who's That Girl für nichts Besonderes.
          {{cite web|url=http://www.blender.com/guide/back-catalogue/52744/whos-that-girl.html|title=Review:Madonna - Who's That Girl|last=Power|first=Tony|date=1987-01-01|work=[[Blender (magazine)|Blender]]|publisher=Alpha Media Group Inc|accessdate=2009-07-09}}
  • Love Don't Live Here Anymore
  • Who's That Girl (soundtrack)
    • Tony Power of Blender panned the score, calling it "A bland uncommitted soundtrack to the dreck-laden comedy flick".
      Power, Tony. "Madonna: Who's That Girl Review". Blender. Blender Media LLC. ISSN 1534-0554. {{cite journal}}: |access-date= requires |url= (help)
  • Like a Virgin (song)
    • Tony Power from Blender listed the song as a standout track from the album.
      Power, Tony (1994-01-01). "Like a Virgin – Review". Blender. 2 (5). Alpha Media Group: 23.
  • Causing a Commotion
    • Tony Power from Blender criticized the song, saying "nothing in it is good".
      Power, Tony (1987-01-01). "Review: Madonna – Who's That Girl". Blender. Alpha Media Group. ISSN 1534-0554. {{cite journal}}: |access-date= requires |url= (help)
      • es:Causing a Commotion
        • ...mientras que Tony Power de Blender criticó la canción al decir que «no hay nada bueno en ella».
          {{Cita publicación|apellidos=Power|nombre=Tony|año=1987|título=Review: Madonna – Who's That Girl|publicación=[[Blender]]|issn=1534-0554|fechaacceso=1 de mayo de 2012|idioma=inglés}}
      • fr:Causing a Commotion
        • Tony Power de Blender critique négativement la chanson, en disant qu' "il n'y a rien de bien".
          {{Lien web |url=http://www.blender.com/guide/back-catalogue/52744/whos-that-girl.html |titre={{lang|en|Review: Madonna - Who's That Girl}} |auteur=Tony Power |date={{1er}} janvier 1987 |site={{lang|en|[[Blender (magazine)|Blender]]}} |consulté le=18 juillet 2010 }}
  • Like a Virgin
    • Tony Power from Blender gave a negative review of the album, saying "Madonna destroys Rose Royce's soul ballad 'Love Don't Live Here Anymore'. Ambition ('Material Girl') and Madonna as victim of love ('Pretender') are the emerging themes, and thanks to Reservoir Dogs, we'll always debate whether the title track is about a guy with a big wang."
      Power, Tony (1985-01-01). "Madonna: Like a Virgin (Sire)". Blender. Blender Media LLC. Retrieved 2010-06-21.
      • fr:Like a Virgin
        • ...même si Tony Power de Blender, liste la chanson comme une piste détachée de l'album".
          {{Lien web |url=http://www.blender.com/guide/back-catalogue/54916/like-virgin.html |titre={{lang|en|Like a Virgin - Review}} |auteur=Tony Power |date={{1er}} janvier 1985 |site={{lang|en|[[Blender (magazine)|Blender]]}} |consulté le=4 juin 2010 }}
  • Live to Tell
    • Blender's Tony Power said that the song "is her [Madonna's] first ballad not sunk by her ordinary pipes".
      Power, Tony. "Madonna: True Blue Review". Blender. Alpha Media Group. Retrieved 2009-03-11.
      Note that this review seems to be from the modern Blender, but a search of the magazine archives turns up empty. The song was released in 1986.
  • Papa Don't Preach
    • Blender's Tony Power said that the "baroque faux strings and abortion dilemma of 'Papa Don’t Preach' herald a new, less querulous Madonna, girlishly in love with Sean Penn and bolstered by writer-producer Pat Leonard."
      Power, Tony. "Madonna: True Blue Review". Blender. Alpha Media Group. Retrieved 2009-02-26.
      Note that this review seems to be from the modern Blender, but a search of the magazine archives turns up empty. The song was released in 1986.
      • fr:Papa Don't Preach
        • Tony Power de Blender dit que "les fausses cordes baroque et le dilemme de l'avortement de Papa Don't Preach annonce une nouvelle, moins grincheuse Madonna, amoureuse de Sean Penn et soutenue par l'auteur-producteur Pat Leonard."
          {{Lien web |url=http://www.blender.com/guide/back-catalogue/52746/true-blue.html |titre={{lang|en|Madonna: True Blue Review}} |auteur=Tony Power |site={{lang|en|[[Blender (magazine)|Blender]]}} |consulté le=2 juillet 2010 }}
  • You Can Dance
    • Blender magazine reviewer Tony Power rated it one star out of five, doubting the necessity of such a dance remix album, when the singer's hits were already danceable. He further added that "Madonna’s snappiest tunes are bloated and stretched."
      Power, Tony (2007-09-12). "You Can Dance – Blender". Blender. Alpha Media Group. Retrieved 2010-03-06.
      Note that this review seems to be from the modern Blender, but a search of the magazine archives turns up empty. The album was released in 1987.


Comment: All of these reviews from Blender did exist on its website, however, they are no longer available (dead links). Here are the archived links I've found,

So it's clear now that all of those sources were not fabricated, thanks. Bluesatellite (talk) 04:06, 19 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

How is it that "There is little reason for the magazine to review albums and songs released before it went live online" can turn into "Looks like the (...) cites are probably good"? Analysing suspicious contributions is one thing, allowing it to turn into a hounding is another. --lmaxmai (talk) 00:48, 1 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Quelle: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Legolas2186/Fixing_citation_problems