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A tag has been placed on CJT requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done because the article, which appears to be about a real person, organization (band, club, company, etc.), or web content, does not indicate how or why the subject is notable: that is, why an article about that subject should be included in an encyclopedia. Under the criteria for speedy deletion, articles that do not indicate the subject's importance or significance may be deleted at any time. Please see the guidelines for what is generally accepted as notable. If this is the first page that you have created, then you should read the guide to writing your first article.

If you think that you can assert the notability of the subject, you may contest the deletion by adding {{hangon}} to the top of the article (just below the existing speedy deletion or "db" tag), coupled with adding a note on the article's talk page explaining your position, but be aware that once tagged for speedy deletion, if the article meets the criterion it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but don't hesitate to add information to the article that would confirm the subject's notability under Wikipedia guidelines.

For guidelines on specific types of articles, you may want to check out our criteria for biographies, for web sites, for bands, or for companies. Feel free to leave a note on my talk page if you have any questions about this. JohnCD (talk) 12:31, 30 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia has a choice: it could be a sort of general bulletin-board-cum-social-networking-site where anybody can post anything they like about themself, their band, their best friend; but it has decided to be an encyclopedia, and that means having standards about what sort of articles to allow, and deleting ones that don't qualify. You can read more in WP:ENC, WP:NOT, Notability (music), and the List of Bad Article Ideas. The guide to writing Your First Article is helpful, too. Regards, JohnCD (talk) 14:33, 30 November 2008 (UTC) A bloke called Andrew^Convos_{My Messies} 09:52, 26 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

A tag has been placed on Please Y'self requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section A7 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article appears to be about a band or musician, but it does not indicate how or why the subject is important or significant: that is, why an article about that subject should be included in an encyclopedia. Under the criteria for speedy deletion, such articles may be deleted at any time. Please see the guidelines for what is generally accepted as notable, as well as our subject-specific notability guideline for musical topics.

If you think that this notice was placed here in error, you may contest the deletion by adding {{hangon}} to the top of the page that has been nominated for deletion (just below the existing speedy deletion or "db" tag), coupled with adding a note on the talk page explaining your position, but be aware that once tagged for speedy deletion, if the article meets the criterion it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but don't hesitate to add information to the article that would would render it more in conformance with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. Lastly, please note that if the article does get deleted, you can contact one of these admins to request that a copy be emailed to you. Mr. Vernon (talk) 13:52, 23 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hi; first, please sign your comments when you leave messages on a talk page. You can do that by adding ~~~~ at the end. Second, if you feel the band is notable, put a {{hangon}} on the page, and explain why on the talk page. If the band is notable - please read WP:BAND for guidelines - the article will stay. Have a nice day :) --Mr. Vernon (talk) 14:48, 23 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I've fixed the hangon tag. Go to the talk page and make your case. I couldn't find much in the way of "secondary sources" on the band (news clippings); if you have them, add a link to them. Same with records and CDs. There are a TON of bands who try to put themselves on Wikipedia, which is why you have to be notable and "stand out" from the crowd. --Mr. Vernon (talk) 14:55, 23 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I know, but you have to prove that the band is notable. Otherwise any band could claim that they were huge once, but no articles exist anymore. --Mr. Vernon (talk) 15:01, 23 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Take a look at this new article - Tokyo_Dragons. That's how you make a pretty good band page. Note that they have links to prove that they had chart-topping hits. --Mr. Vernon (talk) 15:04, 23 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

So add that newspaper article to the page. If you have any articles about their tours or popularity/fanbase, add that too. The more you have, the more you can establish notability. --Mr. Vernon (talk) 15:09, 23 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hi there. In case you didn't know, when you add content to talk pages and Wikipedia pages that have open discussion, you should sign your posts by typing four tildes ( ~~~~ ) at the end of your comment. If you can't type the tilde character, you should click on the signature button located above the edit window. This will automatically insert a signature with your name and the time you posted the comment. This information is useful because other editors will be able to tell who said what, and when. Thank you! --SineBot (talk) 15:11, 23 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I have nominated Please Y'self, an article that you created, for deletion. I do not think that this article satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, and have explained why at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Please Y'self. Your opinions on the matter are welcome at that same discussion page; also, you are welcome to edit the article to address these concerns. Thank you for your time. JodyB _talk 16:47, 23 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

If you disagree with the result of the deletion discussion, the next step would be a deletion review. Cirt (talk) 07:52, 7 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for uploading File:SUevisiot.jpg. The image has been identified as not specifying the copyright status of the image, which is required by Wikipedia's policy on images. Even if you created the image yourself, you still need to release it so Wikipedia can use it. If you don't indicate the copyright status of the image on the image's description page, using an appropriate copyright tag, it may be deleted some time in the next seven days. If you made this image yourself, you can use copyright tags like {{PD-self}} (to release all rights), {{self|CC-by-sa-3.0|GFDL}} (to require that you be credited), or any tag here - just go to the image, click edit, and add one of those. If you have uploaded other images, please verify that you have provided copyright information for them as well.

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This is an automated notice by STBotI. For assistance on the image use policy, see Wikipedia:Media copyright questions. NOTE: once you correct this, please remove the tag from the image's page. STBotI (talk) 19:52, 29 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

No. The image tag must be used for all images, however if you made it yourself, as I said above, you can use {{PD-self}} to release all rights and put your image into the public domain or {{self|CC-by-sa-3.0|GFDL}} to reserve some rights, including that the image be credited to you any time it is used. You can also retain all copyright rights by using {{non-free album cover}} and adding a fair use rationale for its use on each Wikipedia article. ST47 (talk) 23:34, 1 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, please read WP:CANVASSING. Cirt (talk) 09:13, 13 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Also, you don't have to include a copy of each article you make or modify on your user page. Just a short page detailing what you do, who you are etc. is enough to satisfy us. M1N (talk) 16:39, 16 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

If you are having issues with vandalism, the place to report it is at WP:AIV. Cirt (talk) 16:43, 16 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry! some of the article names like that "code" thing seemed like vandalism. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mister1nothing (talk • contribs) 16:49, 16 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Truly the best way to report it is at WP:AIV. Cirt (talk) 17:09, 16 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I have warned the two IPs. Cirt (talk) 17:17, 16 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for your message on my page. You seem to have a problem with the article about pi. I suggest that you digest carefully this statement: pi is the ratio of any circle's circumference to its diameter. That is from the first sentence of the article. You may or may not want more information, and you may or may not be able to comprehend more information about pi. Unfortunately your comment at Talk:pi sounds like a bad mannered attack on anyone who does comprehend what you do not, where you use unkind terms such as "total nerds" and "pointless and gawky". Given that you display boxes saying that you are a teenager (believable) and a mathematician (dubious), an attitude adjustment on your part is called for. Cuddlyable3 (talk) 21:02, 4 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I delete this subject from my page. Good luck with your maths education. Cuddlyable3 (talk) 12:23, 5 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you fixing the Fimography section. Coould not do the last column.

Savolya (talk) 13:52, 17 February 2009 (UTC)savolyaSavolya (talk) 13:52, 17 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Moved to User:Koshoes/Please Y'self, please let me know when done and I will delete that page as well. Cirt (talk) 18:38, 17 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

You wrote:

So you go to a Derby match and the first song you hear is "As I was going to Derby, It was on a market day, I saw the finest Ram sir, that ever was fed on hay". No it isn't.

I'm sorry if I've caused offence. I haven't ever been to a football match, but the fact remains that their nickname is the Rams, a stylised ram is on their badge, the ram is the symbol of Derby (as well as the Buck i'the Park) and it is connected to the old folk song. Chevin (talk) 06:55, 31 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Andrew R, thank you for your help welcoming new users. I noticed, however, that you are leaving some welcome messages before a new user ever makes an edit. This is generally discouraged because a) It might turn out you are welcoming a vandal account; and b) A lot of new accounts never edit at all, and then you are just creating talkpages for accounts that will never use them.

Anyway, it's generally best to wait until you see a user's "contribs" link to become blue...then you can see what they're doing, and if it's a constructive edit you can welcome them, and if it's an unconstructive edit you can warn them (if it's blatant vandalism) or familiarize them with policies (if it's just a misunderstanding of WP policy). Thanks, rʨanaɢ ^talk/_contribs 13:31, 9 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

We have to be neutral, Andrew. We just report what reliable sources says -- all points of view. As it happens, pretty much all sources agree on this one, so far. My point about neutrality was more about the language. If we keep the language dry and neutral, it's more encyclopedic, and it doesn't detract from the facts. Language that isn't purely descriptive makes readers wonder what's going on. SlimVirgin ^{talk|contribs} 21:09, 10 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hi!

OK, first question - not sure! What do you mean by "user thingy"? I can think of a user box I have, or possibly my signature - signature maybe? I didn't think it was that odd but if so let me know and I'll run you through how to change it.

Second question - yes, I believe so. Some users have different accounts for home and work (where they may be using a less secure computer). Best bet is to be completely upfront about it, and acknowledge on your userpage that you're using multiple accounts. I only use one, but if I has another account I'd list it on my main account's userpage (and I'd also list my main account on my secondary account's userpage).

Hope that helps - let me know what you meant with question one and I'll try and help!

Cheers, This flag once was red^propaganda_deeds 19:53, 14 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Aha! OK, fairly easy answer, though it's not necessarily that easy to do (it helps if you understand a bit of HTML and wiki-markup). Firstly, you need to go to "my preferences" (at the top of the screen) - you should then start at the "User profile" tab. Scroll down to the "Raw signature" checkbox and make sure it's checked. Then enter some wiki markup in the "Signature" box above the checkbox (this is the tricky bit). I found it easier to copy other editors' raw signatures - click "edit" above my signature, for example, and you'll see the raw markup I use. Change their username to yours, change any colours that you want, and then click "Save" at the bottom of the "User profile" tab. I test my new signatures on my talk page (using "preview" instead of "save"), but you can test signatures anywhere.

If it helps, this is the raw markup I use for my signature:

[[User:This flag once was red|<b style="color:#000">This flag once was red</b>]]^{[[User talk:This flag once was red|<span style="color:#f00">propaganda</span>]]}_{[[Special:Contributions/This flag once was red|deeds]]}

That basically means "link to my userpage by displaying my username in black bold text, then link to my talkpage by displaying "propaganda" in red "superscript" (raised) text, then link to my contributions by displaying "deeds" in "subscript" (lowered) text." I don't specify the colour of the last link as I ran out of space for extra markup, so it defaults to the usual Wikipedia colour for a link.

There's a limit to the number of characters you can use; since I have quite a long username I find it a bit limiting at times.

Hope that helps!

Cheers, This flag once was red^propaganda_deeds 11:10, 15 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. [[User:Koshoes|<b style="color:#080">Koshoes</b>]]<sup>[[User talk:Koshoes|<span style="">My convos</span>color:#f90sub> (talk) 15:58, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

Thanks. This is neat.

Caccophonix (talk) 16:59, 15 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Read WP:N and WP:BIO, please. Being related to someone famous doesn't make him any more notable than those other 95 who died in the disaster. –  LATICS  talk  20:14, 16 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hi there. In case you didn't know, when you add content to talk pages and Wikipedia pages that have open discussion, you should sign your posts by typing four tildes ( ~~~~ ) at the end of your comment. If you can't type the tilde character, you should click on the signature button located above the edit window. This will automatically insert a signature with your name and the time you posted the comment. This information is useful because other editors will be able to tell who said what, and when. Thank you! --SineBot (talk) 13:17, 17 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, hope you don't mind, but I've declined the speedy on Danny Morris as I've been able to identify what the article is about, and I've replaced your deletion tag with a notability tag. ϢereSpielChequers 10:16, 18 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hi!

No, I haven't ever been RfA'd, and while I'm flattered you think I'm up to it, I'm not completely certain myself yet. My instinct is that I need to spend more time in different areas before I'd be a good candidate.

Questions like yours go a long way in making me think I'm gaining experience and doing stuff right, though!

Cheers, This flag once was red^propaganda_deeds 17:29, 21 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Please remember to assume good faith when dealing with other editors, which you did not do on Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Shaheen Jafargholi. Thank you. JEdgarFreeman (talk) 16:05, 22 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

You put forward the idea that people want to delete the article on Shaheen Jafargholi because he isn't American. That is as much of a bad faith argument as can be made. Add to that, you called the nomination "pathetic", which is an uncivil comment to make. I understand your passion to keep the article up, but you must tone down your arguments otherwise you risk losing all sympathy for what you have to say. JEdgarFreeman (talk) 16:23, 22 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Please do not blank archived discussions such as Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Please Y'self (2nd nomination). You may disagree with the outcome, but removing comments made by other users is not acceptable. --auburnpilot talk 17:33, 23 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I moved your request for a DRV to the correct date (Wikipedia:Deletion review/Log/2009 April 23) and also replied on my talk page. --auburnpilot talk 17:54, 23 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

When you add things like this can you please source it so people know where you got the information for please? When did she say she will be in a "hell machine" how are people supposed to know that you didn't make it up? Always source everything you do. And welcome to the project! Grk1011/Stephen (talk) 17:20, 27 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hi.

First of all, you only have to place the link to the article, not a formal petition.

Secondly, The article WAS a stub, it has no Personnel section.

Third, I added the section and rated it C.

Feel free to make new request of assessement. Zidane tribal (talk) 21:03, 27 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Hi!

As best I can recall, our only contact has been an amiable discussion about signatures, and although I've only had a cursory glance at your contributions I can't see much in the way of you upsetting people - certainly you've never upset me!

By "RFA'd", do you mean WP:RFA? (I assume you do, but wanted to check before I make too much of an idiot of myself). Assuming you do, I'd recommend having a read of Wikipedia:Guide to requests for adminship before proceeding - I read it just now for the first time, and the big thing that jumped out at me was "in 2008 only a dozen candidates with between 3,000 and 4,500 edits succeeded and only one with less than 3,000 edits" - I notice you have less than 1000 edits, so I'd caution you against an RFA just yet (unless you can point to an account you've previously used). I'd suggest trying in particular to boost your edits to "article space". I notice you participate in Articles for Deletion; that's excellent, and I'd recommend you continue that. You should also try and get a wider exposure to similar areas, perhaps some of the dispute resolution pages. I don't know whether you read WP:AN or WP:ANI at all, but following the threads on those two pages would be valuable, too. However, I supported a candidate for adminship recently who withdrew amidst strong opposition, in part because they were seen as being too involved with WP:ANI - so reading, not posting, may be advisable there! You mention upsetting other editors: if you can build bridges with as many as possible by editing collaboratively with them then that would be excellent: this RfA succeeded, I believe, because the candidate's first "support" !vote was from an editor with whom the candidate had very publicly clashed in the past. (Incidentally, having a look at some of the successful RfAs from the past and current RfAs would be an excellent way to get "a feel" for what issues !voters are looking for).

Hopefully I've not just made a complete idiot of myself! Let me know if I have; I have a thick skin and would be glad if I can.

Cheers, This flag once was red^propaganda_deeds 10:31, 9 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Show me the Wikipedia policy that backs this up and I will gladly agree with you. Otherwise, you're wrong. DJ 17:01, 24 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

So you are a glory hunter then. Wikipedia hates glory hunters, and people who make pages about themselves. Eurovision 2009 and 2010^{Sasha Son}_{Sakis Rouvas} 17:15, 24 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

No I am not. I repeat, show me a policy that backs your argument up or I will not listen to you. Simple. DJ 18:46, 24 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Let me give you a little bit of information. Radio and Television stations, that have been issued a license by the Federal Communications Commission (FCC) are inherently notable. This also goes for defunct radio stations because they were also given a FCC license. I would recommend you withdraw your AfD on station WDXR and read up on WP:N and ask WP:WPRS before doing this again. - NeutralHomer • Talk • 04:11, 26 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Again, I have not broken any Wikipedia rules or guidlines. I am allowed to nominate articles for deletion if I see fit. So you're loosing paitence with me - am I supposed to apologise? Now stop vandalising my talk page. DJ 11:56, 30 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I have lost my patience with you because this article is about an accident where a national day of mourning was claimed and so was 17 lives. Don't tag the front thing as warning again.

So. I still have the right to nominate it. Do you expect me to care that you've lost paitence with me? Because trust me - I don't. DJ 12:02, 30 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

But you still reserve hate for articles like that and no it is not Disruptive-spell it right in future. I know you reserve hate for people because I've seen your YouTube. Eurovision 2009 and 2010^{Sasha Son}_{Sakis Rouvas} 12:13, 30 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Why would I hate victims of a car accident? :S And there are no videos that are hateful on my YouTube. Would you care to point out where there is hate - [1]? DJ 13:36, 30 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I wonder, Britains Not Got Talent? Eurovision 2009 and 2010^{Sasha Son}_{Sakis Rouvas} 17:14, 30 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Yes. A video which criticises the media's harsh treatment of vulnerable TV contestants. That is not HATE. Another example? DJ 17:37, 30 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

There isn't anymore, but you seem to reserve some hate for me. Answer to that one, then. Eurovision 2009 and 2010^{Sasha Son}_{Sakis Rouvas} 17:46, 30 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I don't hate anybody. It's just extremely frustrating that you post false claims on my talk page and when asked to back them up, you can't. DJ 17:52, 30 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I can easily back claims up given time. This argument has gone too far. Eurovision 2009 and 2010^{Sasha Son}_{Sakis Rouvas} 18:32, 30 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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If you are no longer interested in WikiProject Eurovision then please remove your name from this list. This Newsletter was delivered by Grk1011/Stephen (talk) 02:45, 1 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Just letting you know that the userbox "this user is not retarded, no matter what anyone says" has been deleted and you may want to remove the template. Subverted (talk • contribs) 07:58, 7 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

A second RfC has been started on sourcing for Eurovision articles, you can view it at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Eurovision#RfC on reliable sources for Eurovision articles. This RfC is critical as it will help determine how current and future Eurovision articles are sourced, and as much participation as possible is needed for a consensus to develop. You are being notified as you are listed as an active user of Wikipedia:WikiProject Eurovision, and hence the results of this RfC could have a large impact on the articles you edit. Camaron · Christopher · talk 09:17, 24 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Project Talk Page The WikiProject Eurovision Newsletter Issue XI - June 2009 Project News There are now over 2,800 articles associated with the project (100 more than last month) and all are assessed. If you happen to see a Eurovision related article without the {{EurovisionNotice}} template on the article's talk page, please add it. You can also read Wikipedia:Version 1.0 Editorial Team/Assessment if you would like to help reassess articles in our project if you see that they have outgrown their current assessment. Following recent disputes relating to sourcing in Eurovision articles, an RfC has been opened on the issue at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Eurovision#RfC on reliable sources for Eurovision articles. The dispute particularly focuses on use of ESCToday and Oikotimes as sources in articles. The RfC is suffering from lack of participation; all project members are encouraged to state their opinion. Project members are reminded that text and images in articles must follow Wikipedia's copyright policies. Text must not be copied out or copied and pasted into articles from websites whose material is not under a Wikipedia compatible free license. Fully copyrighted text includes that from the EBU (Eurovision.tv), ESCToday, and Okiotimes. Images must also not be uploaded onto Wikimedia Commons for use in Eurovision articles unless they are under a free license, this does not include most images on the internet or TV screen shots even if they were taken by the uploader. Copyrighted images may be uploaded onto the English Wikipedia (not Commons) for use in Eurovision articles if a valid claim of fair use can be made, note that the criteria are strict. Eurovision News Russia and Ukraine selected their entries to the Junior Eurovision Song Contest 2009, which will be held on 21 November in Kiev. Russia will be represented by 11-year-old Ekaterina Ryabova with the song "Malenkiy prints", while host country Ukraine will be represented by Andranik Alexanyan, also 11 years old, with "Tri topoli, tri surmy". Over fifteen countries have confirmed their participation in Eurovision Song Contest 2010. See Eurovision Song Contest 2010#Confirmed participants for the full list. Do you have news for the next issue? Submit it here! Page Milestones Junior Eurovision Song Contest became a Good Article (GA). Portugal in the Eurovision Song Contest 2008 and Norway in the Eurovision Song Contest 2008 were declined GA status on the grounds of sourcing issues. David D'Or was also declined GA status but was granted B-class status, it was previously C-class. Switzerland in the Eurovision Song Contest 2008 has been demoted to C-class following a good article reassessment. There was opposition to the proposed demotion, but the decision has not as of yet been directly challenged. From the Members Welcome to the eleventh edition of the WikiProject Eurovision Newsletter! Things are beginning to quiet down now that the 2009 Eurovision Song Contest is behind us, which is the project's busiest time of year. A few of us however still had to slow down during this period, including myself, as May and June also happens to be exam season in multiple parts of the world. There is much still to be done in any case with preparations for the 2010 Song Contest now well under way, and the host city, Oslo, now confirmed. There are several items that this project needs to debate including choices of sourcing and what contests come under the banner of this project. The first of these items is already being addressed at a new RfC (see left). Further ideas that could be developed include creation of some article guidelines for Eurovision articles. This could start as an advisory essay and then later, if consensus permits, become an official Wikipedia guideline. Examples of these already in existence include Wikipedia:WikiProject Schools/Article guidelines and Wikipedia:WikiProject Video games/Article guidelines. Happy editing, Camaron · Christopher · talk Member News The project currently has 71 members. Want to invite new members? Place our invitation template on the talk page of anyone you would like to invite to our project. New Members We would like to welcome the new member who joined in June. (by date joined) AlexandrDmitri (talk · contribs)

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The second RfC on sourcing for Eurovision articles has now being running for several weeks, you can view it at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Eurovision#RfC on reliable sources for Eurovision articles. In order to help gauge the spread of opinion and draw conclusions from this discussion a straw poll has been started at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Eurovision#Straw poll. All project members are encouraged to read the RfC thoroughly and then cast their votes as they see fit. Rationales are still encouraged in the main discussion area above the poll, and participants can add appropriate new sources or options to the poll as they wish. Camaron · Christopher · talk 19:05, 12 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Project Talk Page The WikiProject Eurovision Newsletter Issue XII - July 2009 Project News The RfC on article sourcing was closed by Moonriddengirl (talk · contribs) as an uninvolved editor. The decisions were for each source: ESCToday: Reliable ESCKaz: Semi-reliable ESCTime: Not reliable Oikotimes: No consensus More details on the decision as well as the full RfC can be found on the project talk page. The decisions made in the RfC will likely impact on future drafts of the article guidelines. Please note that further use of Oikotimes and ESCTime is discouraged and existing uses should be replaced with reliable sources. If no other source exists for the information, leave the current source for the time being. Due to a new naming convention relating to the use of the term "FYR Macedonia", the Republic of Macedonia should be referred to as "Macedonia" in Eurovision articles. Mention of the country's participation in the Contest under the name "FYR Macedonia" should be written in the lead of articles such as Macedonia in the Eurovision Song Contest, though it is not necessary to express this fact in the general Contest articles. Project News Luara Hayrapetyan will represent Armenia in the Junior Eurovision Song Contest 2009 with the song "Barcelona" following her win at the 11 July national final. Belarusian broadcaster ONT will be in charge of the country's participation in the Eurovision Song Contest 2010, taking over the task from BTRC. Two months after the 2009 Contest ended, the EBU revealed the full jury and televoting results for each country on its website. The results showed that Norway was the winner of both the jury and the televoting, while many placings would have changed had no jury voting taken place. Georgia announced its return to the Contest, while the Czech Republic will withdraw from the 2010 Contest. STV announced plans for Slovakia's participation in the Eurovision Song Contest 2010, with songs submitted for the national final now allowed to include choruses in English. Do you have news for the next issue? Submit it here! Page Milestones A fact from Melodifestivalen 2009 was featured in the did you know section of the Main Page. Eurovision Song Contest is in the middle of a featured article review in an attempt for it to retain its featured article status. Norway and Portugal in the Eurovision Song Contest 2008 have been renominated as Good Articles and are awaiting reviews. From the Members Welcome to the twelfth edition of the WikiProject Eurovision Newsletter! It has been a very slow couple of months in terms of Eurovision news since the passing of the 2009 Contest, however, it has been a very busy time for guidelines and policies affecting our project. Landmark decisions have been made regarding our use of sources and even how we are to refer to Macedonia. In addition, several of our Good Articles have been delisted as part of a task force charged with maintaining the quality of Wikipedia's Good Articles. With there being less information to add and therefore less to do for some, we need to focus on the upkeep and quality of our project's articles and getting those inactive members active once again. We can do this by making sure all new guidelines and naming policies are adhered to and by working to move articles up the quality scale. We are a WikiProject and we all work towards a similar goal. Introduce yourself to your fellow members and get active! Happy editing, Grk1011/Stephen (talk). Member News The project currently has 75 members. Want to invite new members? Place our invitation template on the talk page of anyone you would like to invite to our project. New Members We would like to welcome the new member who joined in July. (by date joined) Das Ansehnlisch (talk · contribs) Jackie-thai (talk · contribs) Baller449 (talk · contribs) Rak-Tai (talk · contribs)

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Can I please have a copy of the page as I want to see what my sister has done. Thanks Eurovision 2009 and 2010^{Sasha Son}_{Sakis Rouvas} 16:24, 10 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Project Talk Page The WikiProject Eurovision Newsletter Issue XIII - August 2009 Project News There has been some discussion on if a monthly newsletter is viable. The current result is not clear, though it appears for the time being months will simply be skipped as necessary when project activity is low. There has been a heated debate on how to deal with criticism and controversy in Eurovision Song Contest article, with a proposal made to re-organise articles to avoid dedicated "controversy" and "criticism" sections in order to have maximum neutral point of view policy compliance. As a result of continued coverage on Azerbaijan-Armenia relations and its impact on the Eurovision Song Contest a new dedicated article on the issue has been created at Armenia–Azerbaijan relations in the Eurovision Song Contest. Discussion about the article name occurred at Talk:Eurovision Song Contest 2010#Suggestion on azerbaijan-armenia conflict. Eurovision News 23 countries have confirmed their participation in the 2010 Eurovision Song Contest. This includes the confirmed return of Georgia, and the confirmed withdrawal of the Czech Republic. The RTL Group has declared that they are seriously considering a return of Luxembourg to the Eurovision Song Contest for 2010. Azerbaijan's participation in the 2010 Eurovision Song Contest has been put in doubt following controversial actions which are believed to have occurred after the 2009 Contest. Azerbaijan has denied that any questioning of individuals over voting in the contest has occurred. A return of the orchestra has been proposed for the 2010 Eurovision Song Contest with Jan Fredrik Heyerdahl of the Norwegian Radio Orchestra declaring interest in participating. Do you have news for the next issue? Submit it here! Page Milestones Portugal in the Eurovision Song Contest 2008 has been declined GA status due to sourcing, with the issue of reliable sourcing being brought up once again in the discussion. Norway in the Eurovision Song Contest 2008 has been nominated for GA status but is on hold with many improvements still required for GA status. Eurovision Song Contest has been demoted to B-class from FA due to various issues highlighted in a long discussion. From the Members Welcome to the thirteenth edition of the WikiProject Eurovision Newsletter! August 2009 will not be remembered as a good month for WikiProject Eurovision. The number of this newsletter might have something to do with it, other possible explanations include circumstances, time of year, and even just coincidence. In any case we have had no new members and no further GA or FA article promotions. The demotion of Eurovision Song Contest, probably the most important article on the project, was a historic blow. Reasons for this and other demotions in recent months include an inflation of article standards, article deterioration through inappropriate edits, and possibly inappropriate promotions in some cases. We should remember however that despite these demotions we still have 2 FAs, 9 GAs, and 41 B-class articles, as well as 2 Featured Lists. This is a big achievement for a project with only 75 members, a small amount compared to other projects. To compare WikiProject Schools has 292 members with no newsletter, and WikiProject Video games has a massive 1,298 members with only a quarterly newsletter. This project will likely be disadvantaged for a long time to come with limited membership and fluctuating activity during the year, but it will grow out of this blip. Happy editing, Camaron · Christopher · talk Member News The project currently has 75 members. Want to invite new members? Place our invitation template on the talk page of anyone you would like to invite to our project. No new members joined the project in the month of August.

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Project Talk Page The WikiProject Eurovision Newsletter Issue XIV - September and October 2009 Project News This is the first edition of the WikiProject Eurovision newsletter in a bimonthly format. Following a discussion on the project talk page this may now become the regular format for the newsletter during the months that the project is less active. Eurovision articles are being repeatedly targeted by sock puppets of banned user Xtinadbest (talk · contribs), who is not allowed to edit Wikipedia. The most effective way of tackling this disruption is to have all regular Eurovision article editors looking out for sock puppets. Editors should report any suspected sock puppets sighted to Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations, more history can be found at Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Xtinadbest/Archive. A proposal was made to change Wikipedia:Manual of Style (dates and numbers) to discourage the use of numeric dates, primarily YYYY-MM-DD (e.g. 2009-08-12 for 12 August 2009), in footnotes as at present it is only discouraged in the main article body. The proposal now seems unlikely to pass due to large levels of opposition, though it could have had a large impact on this project as the date format YYYY-MM-DD is frequently used in Eurovision for reference publication and access dates. Further discussion can be found on the project talk page. Eurovision News 31 countries have confirmed their participation in the 2010 Contest. ESCToday has suggested that the Eurovision Song Contest may be entering a crisis due to the possibility of a large drop in the number of participants next year with the ongoing international recession hitting the budgets of many broadcasters in Europe. Luxembourg and Monaco have both ruled out a return to the Eurovision Song Contest for 2010. A decision by San Marino on if to return or not has not yet been made. Hungary declared it is pulling out of the Eurovision Song Contest due to the financial difficulties of the national broadcaster Magyar Televízió (MTV). National selection details for the 2010 Contest are now available for sixteen countries. Despite the contest being over six months away, Bulgaria has already announced that the artist that will represent the country in 2010 will be Miroslav Kostadinov (who is frequently referred to as Miro). It has been announced that the voting system used for the Eurovision Song Contest semi-finals will change in 2010. The previous system was introduced in 2008 along with the first use of two semi-finals; it involved nine out of ten final places per semi-final being determined exclusively by televote, with the tenth place being determined by juries. This will be replaced by a more balanced 50% jury voting, 50% televoting system. The 2009 Junior Eurovision Song Contest is scheduled to occur next month on 21 November. 13 countries are participating in the contest, while three (Bulgaria, Greece, and Lithuania) are withdrawing. Do you have news for the next issue? Submit it here! Page Milestones Blaxy Girls was nominated for deletion and kept. Javine Hylton was also nominated for GA status but was quickly failed due to a large number of concerns. The nominator, Judo112 (talk · contribs), was later found to be a sock puppet of a previously blocked user. Norway in the Eurovision Song Contest 2008 was nominated for GA status and was placed on hold for almost a month. The GA nomination has now failed due to some remaining issues. From the Members Welcome to the fourteenth edition of the WikiProject Eurovision Newsletter! There have been quite a few updates to the 2010 Contest article since 1 September. Nine countries (Bosnia and Herzegovina, Croatia, Cyprus, Ireland, Macedonia, Malta, Poland, Serbia, and Slovenia) have confirmed their participation, and the article in general has seen many changes. Sadly, whilst some editors have been working hard to provide reliable sources, others have been less thorough and the article has had to be semi-protected again to prevent further disruption. This is a shame, as ideally anyone should be able to edit; however, the talk page is always available to bring new information to light. The participating countries' section has also been updated to allow the inclusion of information about the language, artist and song (with an English translation as appropriate), although to date this is very much a work in progress. As news comes in, we look forward to enriching this section in the coming months—backed-up of course with sources! No new country-specific articles have been written these past two months. If you want to add more detailed information about a country's participation in the 2010 Contest, this is the ideal way to do it, and they are very much appreciated by our readers. Happy editing, Александр Дмитрий (Alexandr Dmitri) (Talk) Member News The project currently has 77 members, with a loss of one member and a gain of three others in September and October. Want to invite new members? Place our invitation template on the talk page of anyone you would like to invite to our project. New Members We would like to welcome the new members who joined in September and October (by date joined): BalticPat22 (talk · contribs) Oskyplop (talk · contribs) Hollac16 (talk · contribs)

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Project Talk Page The WikiProject Eurovision Newsletter Issue XV - November and December 2009 Project News Happy Christmas and new year from WikiProject Eurovision. This is the second edition of the newsletter to be in a bimonthly format. This will probably continue at least up until the next Eurovision Song Contest when the project is more active. Editors are reminded that some articles covered WikiProject Eurovision are subject to the biographies of living persons policy. This does not just include biography articles such as Alexander Rybak, but any article with material related to living persons. Such information is highly sensitive, and unsourced or poorly sourced material about living persons must be removed immediately. Material which may seen trivial to editors, such as a false claim of participation in a contest, can potentially be highly sensitive to the living persons involved. Eurovision articles on this project have been repeatedly subject to a form of sneaky vandalism. This involves unregistered users adding false information to articles such as Eurovision Song Contest 2010 (while unprotected). These false claims are then made to look legitimate through the use of "fake references" with false titles and links, example. Cuchufleta (talk · contribs) was blocked indefinitely for creating multiple hoax articles with the same editing technique. Editors are advised to look out for further disruption of this kind, as it seems to be originating from a determined individial or an organised group. More information can be found at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Eurovision#User:Cuchufleta. Eurovision News The EBU released their participants list for the 2010 Eurovision Song Contest on 31 December 2009. 39 countries will take part. Five of these qualify directly to the final, with the 34 remaining countries each competing in one of two semi-finals (seventeen per semi-final). Five countries have declared they will be withdrawing from the contest in 2010. The Czech Republic are withdrawing due to three semi-final failures and a lack of interest from Czech viewers. Andorra, Hungary, Lithuania, and Montenegro have all declared they are withdrawing for financial reasons. Georgia is the only country that has declared it will be returning to the contest. No debuts are planned either with Liechtenstein's only broadcaster 1FLTV having ruled out joining the European Broadcasting Union (EBU) for December 2009. This made a debut by the country for the 2010 Contest no longer possible. Despite the 2010 Contest being many months away countries are now actively declaring which artists and songs will be representing them at the contest. A table for this can be found at Eurovision Song Contest 2010#Participants. Nearly all of the declared participants now have dedicated entry articles. The Junior Eurovision Song Contest 2009 was held on 21 November 2009 and was won by Ralf Mackenbach of the Netherlands with the song "Click Clack". Do you have news for the next issue? Submit it here! Page Milestones MelodyVision Song Contest and related articles have been deleted following a discussion at Articles for deletion (AfD). The article on Sakis Rouvas received a peer review which is now archived. The Samantha Womack article was not moved following a discussion. A fact from Greece in the Eurovision Song Contest 2010 appeared on the Main Page during 26 December 2009. From the Members Welcome to the fifteenth edition of the WikiProject Eurovision Newsletter! Another decade has past for the Eurovision Song Contest. The naughties will probably be remembered as a decade of both success and controversy for the contest. Televoting reached its peak in the early 2000s. This gave the contest a more democratic edge, but by 2008 it was widely believed to have made Eurovision resemble a political and geographic football match rather than a song contest. The EBU took action in 2009 by reducing televoting to having only a 50% weighting in the results of each contest. Many new countries have joined the contest in the last decade, bringing the number of participants to a new high. Among this some countries withdrew while others returned, though one of the major missing countries, Italy, did not make a return as was hoped by many. There was not a shortage of controversy either. Two participants went to war, and the buzz over the planned participation of Kosovo put Eurovision in the middle of a political storm. One also cannot forget that this decade saw the introduction of two spin-off contests - the Junior Eurovision Song Contest and the Eurovision Dance Contest. It is still not fully clear on how these fit into this project, perhaps we will work that out during the tens. Happy editing in a new year and decade, Camaron · Christopher · talk Member News The project currently has 80 members, with three joining during November and December. Want to invite new members? Place our invitation template on the talk page of anyone you would like to invite to our project. New Members We would like to welcome the new members who joined in November and December (by date joined): Chio21 (talk · contribs) Draggleduck (talk · contribs) Back4goode (talk · contribs)

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Project Talk Page The WikiProject Eurovision Newsletter Issue XVI - January and February 2010 Project News The articles by quality table has been changed for all WikiProjects as a result of changes to the WP 1.0 bot. Due to these changes editors are encouraged to add the {{EurovisionNotice}} banner to the talk pages of categories, files, templates, portals, disambiguation pages, as well as articles and project pages. This has the benefit of making the table more complete and covering such pages under article alerts. An FAQ has been created for the Eurovision Song Contest 2010 page in an attempt to mitigate repetitive discussions on the talk page about content in the article. This has not been previously done for a Eurovision article, though they are also used in other high profile areas such as Barack Obama and global warming. There has been persistent problems on Anna Vissi related articles with a disruptive IP hopping editor making repeated sweeping and unwanted changes to the articles despite being asked to stop. An account that displayed similar behaviour, JORJKIE.AV (talk · contribs), has now been blocked indefinitely and some pages have had to be semi-protected for long periods. Disruption continues from sock puppets of banned user Xtinadbest (talk · contribs), including on Eurovision related articles. Editors are advised to report suspicious activity from new accounts to Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Xtinadbest. Eurovision News On 7 February 2010 a draw was held to decide which semi-final of the 2010 Eurovision Song Contest each country will participate in. The draw also decided, for countries qualified straight to the final, which semi-final they will vote in. Notable confirmed changes to the format of the Eurovision Song Contest this year include that the semi-finals will now be divided into two halves, and that voting will be open throughout each show rather than only after all entries have preformed. Five countries have now confirmed participation in the 2010 Junior Eurovision Song Contest which is scheduled for 20 November 2010. The contest will be held in Minsk, Belarus. It was announced in January 2010 that the Third Eurovision Dance Contest has been postponed a second time. It was originally due to be held in 2009, but was then postponed till 2010, and may now not happen at all, at least within the next two years. The EBU have justified the decision by saying there has been a decline in the popularity of TV dance shows. Do you have news for the next issue? Submit it here! Page Milestones Sandie Shaw was tagged as a possible copyright infringement, but problematic material has now been removed. It's All About You was moved to Nuk mundem pa ty following discussion. António Calvário, Ruslan Alekhno, and Spain in the Junior Eurovision Song Contest were proposed for deletion, however in all cases the proposals were contested. Pfuri Gorps & Kniri was nominated for deletion at articles for deletion (AfD) and deleted. Innocent Heart was nominated for deletion at AfD and was deleted. Due to disruption the page was also protected to prevent re-creation. Users may consult an administrator or make a nomination at deletion review if they wish to make a good faith attempt at re-writing the article. Je ne sais quoi (song) was nominated for deletion at AfD and kept. The participation of WikiProject Eurovision members was commented on during the discussion. From the Members Welcome to the sixteenth edition of the WikiProject Eurovision Newsletter! We're in full swing now! Although the Eurovision Song Contest is around 2 months away, this is probably one of the busiest times of the year for the WikiProject, with a whole load of semi-finals, quarter finals, heats as well as national finals to see who the country chooses to represent them at this years Eurovision Song Contest. We now know which of the 35 countries will vote and perform in which semi-final. With the 'Big Four' and host country, Germany and Spain voting in the first semi-final and France, Norway and the United Kingdom in the second semi-final. With 22 out of the 39 countries decided, we are just about half way through, with a whole lot more to come! So when creating new articles about a performer or song, please remember to add sources either from Eurovision.tv, ESCToday or other reliable sources. Please get involved, and contribute anything to articles whether it's a little spelling mistake or a whole new paragraph, and remember to look at the talk pages and have your say on any discussions that may be present. Keep up the good work! -- [[ axg ◉ talk ]] Member News The project currently has 80 members, with two joining and two leaving in January and February. One user left due to retirement, another due to being blocked indefinitely. Want to invite new members? Place our invitation template on the talk page of anyone you would like to invite to our project. New Members We would like to welcome the new members who joined in January and February (by date joined): HOUZI (talk · contribs) DannyBoy20802 (talk · contribs)

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Project Talk Page The WikiProject Eurovision Newsletter Issue XVII - March through July 2010 Due to the article alert bot being out of service indefinitely, it is now much more difficult for newsletter staff to keep up-to-date with all project activity. If editors wish to be sure that an article achievement or Eurovision news story is included in the newsletter, it is important that they let the newsletter writers know about it. Project News There is currently a proposal to restructure this WikiProject and further define its scope. All members are strongly encouraged to comment. The Newsletter Department is looking for editors who are willing to help publish the newsletter. Once published every month, a lack of help forced it to be published less and less often. Interested editors are welcome to suggest news, gather information, and suggest improvements. Looking for something to do? We have a large quantity of articles tagged for clean-up. Even addressing one tag would be a great help. You can see the full list here. According to our quality statistics, most articles are assessed. It is important to point out that articles are edited everyday! Take some initiative and confirm that the WikiProject Eurovision assessment for the article you are working on matches its condition and update it if necessary. We use the general assessment scale created by the Editorial Team. Members have been joining very slowly. A good project has as many members as possible and this helps in discussions and editing so that members are not overwhelmed. If every member could invite a friend or acquaintance using our invitation template, it would make our project much more efficient. One little edit on a friend's talk page? Why not, it takes two seconds! The membership list was recently re-organised with five usernames removed from the list due to these accounts being controlled by blocked or banned users, and to deal with cases where editors had added themselves to the list twice. Some usernames were also moved from the active to inactive list, and vice versa. Eurovision News The 2010 Contest was won by Germany's Lena Meyer-Landrut with the song "Satellite". The 2011 Contest will subsequently be held in Germany next year in a city and venue to be determined. Spain's 2010 performance was stage crashed by Jimmy Jump and they were given a second chance to perform their song following the last song of the final. Germany also became the first country to select its performer for the 2011 Contest, with Lena Meyer-Landrut set to defend her title. Austria announced it's return to the Contest for 2011, with its last appearance being in 2007 when it placed second to last in the semi-final and did not progress to the final. In late July, Liechtenstein submitted its application to join the EBU. With EBU membership, Liechtenstein would be able to take part in the Eurovision Song Contest. Managing director Peter Kölbel stated that there were "good chances" for a participation in 2011 if admittance is granted to the organization. Do you have news for the next issue? Submit it here! Page Milestones Was a page that you worked on nominated for a Did You Know? or did it gain Good Article or Featured Article status? Let us know! From the Members Welcome to the seventeenth edition of the WikiProject Eurovision Newsletter! I apologize for the lack of a newsletter these past few months as I had gotten quite busy in life. Adding to that, the lack of group participation by editors made me feel like my efforts were a waste of time that no one appreciates. I think it is important that we behave like a "club" of sorts and have fun editing Eurovision articles. Eurovision is a fun event and we should be able to discuss the results, talk about Contest related possibilities and work to expand knowledge of the Contest to those who may not be familiar with it. When I edit articles, I hope that someone will come along later and say "wow, all of this happened and I didn't even know it!" Come on guys, get each other's instant messenger name and team up to make an article great! Grk1011/Stephen (talk) Member News The project currently has 82 members, with seven joining and one leaving during the last five months. Note that the membership list was recently re-organised (see left), and that in the future only members listed as active Eurovision editors will receive this newsletter. Want to invite new members? Place our invitation template on the talk page of anyone you would like to invite to our project. New Members We would like to welcome the new members who joined between March and July (by date joined): AnemoneProjectors (talk · contribs) Donikanuhiu (talk · contribs) Ubastiff (talk · contribs) Redpower94 (talk · contribs) A.h. king (talk · contribs) Half price0 (talk · contribs) Joe692 (talk · contribs)

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