This is the archive of comments added to User talk:Gyrofrog from July 2011 through December 2011. -- Gyrofrog (talk) 22:39, 1 January 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for catching this. I should add, the file probably will never go for that page, it is easily replaceable with another (free) image of another person of the Oromo people. It is indeed fair-use on a page of the person themselves, but not here, also not with a rationale. --Dirk Beetstra ^{T C} 15:30, 13 July 2011 (UTC)

You're welcome. I had figured this was the case. -- Gyrofrog 15:34, 13 July 2011 (UTC)

Archives of American Art Backstage Pass! - You are invited!

The Smithsonian is hosting its first Backstage Pass at the Archives of American Art on Friday, July 29. 10 Wikimedians will experience the behind the scenes aspects of archiving the world's largest collection of documents and photographs related to American art. After a complimentary lunch, an edit-a-thon will take place and prizes will be awarded. Followed by an evening happy hour. We hope you'll participate! SarahStierch (talk) 14:15, 16 July 2011 (UTC)

According to CIA World Factbook's latest census of Eritrea & Ethiopia (July 2011)...the estimated population of Tigrinya is 3.5 million in Eritrea...5.5 million in Ethiopia...Tigre is 1.8 million...Amhara is 27% of Ethiopia or 24.6 million

https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/geos/er.html

https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/geos/et.html — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pages416 (talk • contribs) 03:32, 17 July 2011 (UTC)

Just as you blocked one of the socks, I started Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Ras-By-ras. Bit of an overlap now, I guess. Singularity42 (talk) 00:17, 19 July 2011 (UTC)

The first ever WikiProject National Archives newsletter has been published. Please read on to find out what we're up to and how to help out! There are many opportunities for getting more involved. Dominic·t 21:27, 20 July 2011 (UTC)

The WikiProject National Archives Newsletter July 2011 News Featured article contest This week, our first multilingual featured article contest was announced. We are aiming to improve the articles on the Declaration of Independence, Constitution, or Bill of Rights to featured or good status in English and other languages. Prizes for winners will be a gift package from the National Archives including a book of your choice or a tote bag, and other swag, plus, of course, a special barnstar. August 6 backstage pass Plans are in the works for a meetup and backstage pass event at the National Archives II facility in College Park, MD. There will be a regular social meetup, a discussion with Dominic about WP:NARA, a tour of the building by NARA staff, and then time for a scanathon and editathon in the research rooms and library until the building closes at 5 pm. Keep your schedules open! From our recent uploads: ...see more. Special requests: This section includes special requests from the NARA staff: Archival Recovery Team The National Archives' Archival Recovery Team (ART) is a team of law enforcement agents and archivists who investigate NARA's lost and stolen documents. They have received media attention ([1], [2], [3], [4], [5], [6], [7], [8]) and would like to request an article be written for the team, if Wikipedians deem it notable. It is hoped that making more information about the group available on Wikipedia will increase public awareness of the documents they are seeking to recover. Ongoing Today's Document challenge The Today's Document challenge is an opportunity for Wikipedians to get their work related to National Archives holdings spotlighted on Archives.gov and the National Archives' tumblr. Each day the National Archives selects a document related to the day's date to showcase. The goal is to get articles related to the selected documents on the main page in ""Did You Know...?" the same day that the National Archives features the document. Alternatively, other appropriate articles related to National Archives holdings not already selected will be used for new documents of the day by NARA staff and posted to their tumblr. Wikisource WP:NARA has a sister WikiProject on Wikisource, WS:NARA. On Wikisource, editors transcribe, proofread, and arrange documents. This helps to make little-known documents more discoverable, or well-known documents more searchable, and improves accessibility. See the files being worked on. If you are new to Wikisource and would like to participate, there are experienced Wikisourcerors willing to be mentors. New contributions A list of some recent contributions to the project: Wikipedia District of Columbia Compensated Emancipation Act (Fetchcomms) Court of the Patriarchs (CutOffTies) Opposition to the overthrow of the Hawaiian Kingdom (Fetchcomms) Wikisource1 Memorial of Queen Liliuokalani in relation to the Crown lands of Hawaii Petition from women of Brookline Resolutions of the Joint Committee on the Washington Monument H. R. 4982 A Petition For Universal Suffrage Susan B. Anthony petition for remission of fine Alexander Hamilton's commission to take rank as Colonel 1Credit goes to Prosody, Theornamentalist, Inductiveload, Digipoke, George Orwell III, Kathleen.wright5, BirgitteSB, and Zhaladshar Tools Archives.gov grabber (Slakr) Future plans Major image contribution The National Archives has hundreds of thousands of digitized documents in its holdings. We are working on a bulk upload to Commons of one particular cache of about 123,000 TIFF master files in the next few days! Once uploaded, these will require a massive community effort to help categorize the files on Commons and add them to articles on Wikipedia or transcribe them on Wikisource. Inclusion in the online catalog We are currently working on a system for including links to pages on Wikimedia projects in the National Archives online catalog. The Wikimedia projects are hosting an increasing number of transcriptions of National Archives documents and high-quality image and video files that are not available through NARA's own site. Links to these Wikimedia pages in the documents' actual catalog records will benefit the end user by providing them access to further resources about the documents, and they will also demonstrate the National Archives commitment to supporting Wikimedians' efforts. To stop receiving this newsletter, please remove your name from the list.

DC Meetup 21 - Who should come? You should. Really.
	DC MEETUP 21 is July 29! This meet up will involve Wikipedians from the area as well as Wiki-loving GLAM professionals. See you Friday! SarahStierch (talk) 16:32, 25 July 2011 (UTC)

National Archives Backstage Pass - Who should come? You should. Really.
	On Saturday, August 6, the National Archives is hosting a Wikipedia meetup, backstage pass tour, and edit-a-thon in College Park, Maryland. Meet staff and fellow Wikipedians, go behind the scenes at the National Archives, help digitize documents, and edit together! Dominic·t 21:24, 28 July 2011 (UTC)

I totally fail to understand your comment about "conflicts of interest" and am also unimpressed that the external link has been removed.

Please explain your action and message.

Shingleton (talk) 12:31, 1 August 2011 (UTC)

Left response at User talk:Shingleton. -- Gyrofrog 16:47, 1 August 2011 (UTC)

"in the case of this edit to Brian Jones Presents the Pipes of Pan at Joujouka, you linked to an interview posted that same day and conducted by someone whose name is similar to your own Wikipedia username"

Yes, of course I did. I wrote the interview and added the link. Is there any "self interest" in the interview? Have you actually read it? What criteria are you using - the independence of the article linked to or the user name making the link? Would a link to the interview be acceptable if it was added by a different user?

Myopic moderation such as you are practicing is actually undermining not protecting, the independence of Wikipedia.

Shingleton (talk) 11:49, 2 August 2011 (UTC)

"you should avoid or exercise great caution when linking to the Wikipedia article or website of your organization in other articles...."

"About me - Interested parties may wish to visit my website, Gyrofrog Communications".

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Gyrofrog

Shingleton (talk) 12:38, 2 August 2011 (UTC)

Left response at User talk:Shingleton. -- Gyrofrog 16:27, 2 August 2011 (UTC)

And the answer to the questions raised here?

Shingleton (talk) 20:38, 2 August 2011 (UTC)

Left response at User talk:Shingleton. -- Gyrofrog 20:56, 2 August 2011 (UTC)

"In contrast, you've linked to your own website no less than 26 times, which raises a flag."

What flag? If those 26 links are independent and useful, which I and many others believe they are, is that a problem? Would 106 links to independent and useful resources be a problem?

You are not judging the usefulness of the links to other users and their own independence. You are judging them by a short-sighted interpretation of rules. That is why I have, and will continue to, use the word myopic.

You seem shy on answering my questions. As before have you read the articles? Have you looked at the web site? If so do you judge the articles there to exhibit "self-interest"?

Shingleton (talk) 21:19, 2 August 2011 (UTC)

Left response at User talk:Shingleton. -- Gyrofrog 22:24, 2 August 2011 (UTC)

you are very wrong and arent looking at the real winner of the war both internationally and military wise. your cite is not a good one to end with. so i tell you find a better link or YOU shall be banned from editing — Preceding unsigned comment added by ERIKId24 (talk • contribs) 07:26, 3 August 2011 (UTC)

Left response at User talk:ERIKId24. -- Gyrofrog 14:38, 3 August 2011 (UTC)

you are not thinking because the article or "cite" doesnt really tell that Ethiopia won the war. It talks about the war and how Ethiopia was wrong in the invasion. Now Sir i am telling you that if you were to find a better "cite" that tell that Ethiopia won the war militarily i would love to see that, but all the other articles states that the Ethiopians retreated after losing many lives. — Preceding unsigned comment added by ERIKId24 (talk • contribs) 19:35, 3 August 2011 (UTC)

Left response at User talk:ERIKId24. -- Gyrofrog 20:01, 3 August 2011 (UTC)

you sir are not listening. i am trying to tell you. you are only reading the part of the article you want to hear to make you point right when your wrong buddy. Even in you own article says the "Ethiopian troops became to retreat". You yourself are an Ethiopian trying to stop the TRUTH that Eritrea actually BEAT you guys. And until you can see the RIGHT answer i will not stop.

(ERIKId24 (talk) 06:02, 4 August 2011 (UTC))

Left response at User talk:ERIKId24. -- Gyrofrog 14:44, 4 August 2011 (UTC)

okay how about we agree to disagree. In that case why not we just take it out of wikipedia page? — Preceding unsigned comment added by ERIKId24 (talk • contribs) 01:27, 5 August 2011 (UTC)

Left response at User talk:ERIKId24. -- Gyrofrog 14:46, 5 August 2011 (UTC)

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Hi, the one who thinks ringtones are annoying. I think so to !
I am responsible for the part name "VenDanVwel", Wind in the veils speaking about boats "Gommiers" fron the early Amérindians to our days, on the 11th of september, 2011, during the day "Fête nautique de l'Outre-mer" ?. I am writing to you as you downloaded File:Carib Territory.svg. So, I think you know the country La Dominique. Would you please to help us in completing w:en:Dominica's card on OpentreetMap ? Thanks a lot for your help to come. --Ambre Troizat (talk) 15:25, 21 August 2011 (UTC)

Left response at User talk:Ambre Troizat. -- Gyrofrog 18:34, 21 August 2011 (UTC)

Thank you, Gyrofrog, for your answer. And thank you for the image. The map is going to be very useful to us. I hope you see it after the 11th of september on OpenStreetMap. See you next time. --Ambre Troizat (talk) 20:10, 21 August 2011 (UTC)

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http://jivanduduk.com/jivan-gasparyan-biography.html ? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.87.108.103 (talk) 23:29, 21 August 2011 (UTC)

Left response at User talk:76.87.108.103. -- Gyrofrog 03:16, 22 August 2011 (UTC)

Hi Gyrofrog. There's a new single-purpose account that's been going around removing references to Somalia and Cushitic groups from various Ethiopia and Eritrea related articles, including sourced material (c.f. [9]). The user does not appear to be open to dialogue. He/she has also been warned by another editor for edit-warring on these various articles. When you have the time, could you please have a look? Best regards, Middayexpress (talk) 20:14, 31 August 2011 (UTC)

Left response at User talk:Middayexpress. -- Gyrofrog 14:47, 6 September 2011 (UTC)

Yeah, the matter seems to have resolved itself. I'll keep you posted if anything else happens. Cheers, Middayexpress (talk) 19:09, 6 September 2011 (UTC)

Hello mate, you recently proposed to move the "Raaso Article to "Raso" but did you know that these two place are different places? "Raaso" is an existing Ethiopian town and therefore different from "Raso" for this reason moving this article to "Raso" would be a grave mistake. please note that "Raaso" and "Raso" are two different places, please make some research before reaching this conclusion. Please check the following link to see "Raaso" on Goodel Map. http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?ll=6.5489326,41.786002&z=14&t=h&hl=en-GB maxman 23:39, 14 September 2011 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Maxman (talk • contribs)

Left response at Talk:Raaso. -- Gyrofrog 14:57, 15 September 2011 (UTC)

Good work expanding West Coast jazz. You strike the right balance (e.g., you know it wasn't all "cool") and you respect the work that was already done, deftly weaving in your additions. I would have done more on the page myself, except I've spread myself a bit thin on Wikipedia and gotten involved in too many other topics.

I'm thinking that you've already added enough that it shouldn't remain a "stub". I've never been sure who is responsible for deciding whether an article is a stub, "start" class, etc. (except of course Good and Featured Articles, for which there are well-known processes). In my opinion, the article should be considered "Start Class" at this point. Keep going and, who knows? you could propel it into Good or Featured territory. Regards, Alan W (talk) 03:48, 15 September 2011 (UTC)

Left response at User talk:Alan W. -- Gyrofrog 21:37, 15 September 2011 (UTC)

I should have said "at least 'start' class". The main point I wanted to make is that it is clearly not a stub anymore. So who is responsible for changing the tag that shows what class it's in? Does it have to be someone on one of the projects? --Alan W (talk) 23:39, 15 September 2011 (UTC)

Left response at User talk:Alan W. -- Gyrofrog 01:46, 16 September 2011 (UTC)

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National Archives Backstage Pass - Who should come? You should. Really.
	You are invited to the National Archives in College Park for a special backstage pass and scanathon meetup with Archivist of the United States David Ferriero, on Saturday, October 8. Go behind the scenes and into the stacks at the National Archives, help digitize documents, and edit together! Free catered lunch provided! Dominic·t 16:13, 29 September 2011 (UTC)

Inserted fact tag because author could not be verified in medline search. Would prefer citation to medline indexed source. There are some, which however may differ in detail from the claims in this section. Case report is not a viable ref anyway, because of WP:MEDRS, recent review article needed. 70.137.153.65 (talk) 00:45, 29 October 2011 (UTC)

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It's standard procedure not to bring up death threats, threats of violence, suicide threats, etc. at the noticeboards, if only because some trolls make threats simply to get attention and the boards are where they look for it. It's also not us everyday editors' jobs to determine whether a threat is credible or not, or whether authorities should be advised of it. When I was doing recent changes patrol, the preferred practice was to a) revert the edit, b) email emergency at wikimedia.org with a header of "Death Threat" and a link to the original edit, c) ask that the edit be oversighted. This deprives the troll of the attention he wants in most cases, and allows someone at the Foundation to make the decision as to whether authorities should be warned. I've seen dozens of death/harm threats over the past few years - sadly, many people think threatening the life of a head of government or head of state is "fun". --NellieBly (talk) 00:51, 22 November 2011 (UTC)

Left response at User talk:NellieBly#Re: death threats. -- Gyrofrog 20:06, 22 November 2011 (UTC)

Response Thing is, most threats of violence are just trolling nonsense or overwrought rage, but "most" doesn't mean "all"; some are real, and it's above regular editors' pay grades to make that determination. That's why we have an emergency address: specifically for threats of violence.

Unfortunately, it's common for editors to be so terrified of being seen (or of seeing themselves) as the over-reacting, hysterical nutcase convinced that every threat is a sign of impending doom that they go to the absolute extreme opposite and treat all threats with bored, dismissive contempt. But neither extreme response is helpful. The middle way - quietly revert the edit, e-mail emergency with a report, ask for oversight, don't report it publicly - denies the trolls the attention they crave *and* ensures that credible threats are handled by more experienced staff.

I was once a member of a forum where it was standard practice to mock and ridicule threats of violence but otherwise ignore them. Then one of the threats turned out to be real, and the ensuing publicity - the guy murdered two kids - destroyed the forum. Wikipedia really doesn't need that kind of publicity. --NellieBly (talk) 02:20, 23 November 2011 (UTC)

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Hi, you attended the scanathon at the National Archives in October. I recently noticed that most participants have yet to upload scanned documents to Commons, so I just wanted to check and see if you have any files to upload. Please use the October 2011 NARA Backstage Pass category when uploading (and tag any files you already uploaded without it) so we can track them. Any documents you upload will also cataloged by NARA, as well as being available for Wikimedians to use, so this is important! Also, if you have any photos from the tour or other aspects of the event, please be sure to upload those as well. Thanks! Dominic·t 20:15, 28 December 2011 (UTC)

at the latest from 1962marilyn, a re-name/variant of our our movie-loving friend. --Shearonink (talk) 01:52, 29 December 2011 (UTC)

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