This is the archive of comments added to User talk:Gyrofrog during 2005. -- Gyrofrog (talk) 05:19, 2 January 2006 (UTC)

Hi, I have made Tekezé River a redirect to Atbarah River. Until the article becomes much longer, it would probably be best to put all the available information into one article and not break it up into its various sections. I noticed the good work you've been doing on Ethiopian articles. You might be interested in the Africa-related regional notice board. Cheers, BanyanTree 21:57, 5 Mar 2005 (UTC)

• Thanks for the comments! The Tekezé/Atbarah is confusing, as one of the maps I'm using shows these as two tributaries of the same river. The 1911 Encyclopedia description doesn't really agree with what appears on the map. And yes, I'm familiar with CSB and the Africa-related regional notice board, and hope my work contributes to their goals. -- Gyrofrog (talk) 22:28, 5 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Hmmm... That is confusing. Is it possible that the Setit River in the article is the same as the "Atbara" listed on the map, so the Tekezé is actually a tributary of the Setit/Atbara(h)? In that case, it would certainly be its own article... Even the UN can't figure it out and refers to the "Setit-Tekeze/Atbara". I think you know about it than I so I will defer. ;) BanyanTree 22:57, 5 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Nope, there's no such template. That message is what's automatically inserted when admins use the "rollback" feature. (Which is one of the reasons I wanted to become an admin. Saves typing.) --jpgordon∇∆∇∆ 03:43, 12 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Hi Gyrofrog, There appears to be a bit of confusion about Ogaden, the Ogaden Province mentioned in Ogaden War, and Regions of Ethiopia. I can't even figure out if there actually is a province named Ogaden. If you can shed some light on the issue, it would be of great help.

Hi BanyanTree, I'm not really sure about any of this! I know that Ogaden is not currently one of the nine regions, it's part of the Somali Region. I wasn't aware it was a province under some previous system - yet it's usually labeled on maps. And "Ogaden War" must refer to only one phase of that conflict, as Ethiopia and Somalia didn't sign a peace treaty until 1988. It was also bigger than Ogaden - at one point the Somalian military had pushed pretty far into Ethiopian territory, way beyond Ogaden. I need to look for some more reference books... -- Gyrofrog (talk) 05:44, 21 Mar 2005 (UTC)

I'm having a similar problem with States of Sudan - the names of administrative subregions changed so many times it's often unclear what version of the subregion is being referenced. Ah, the pain of political geography!  ;) Take your time with the Ogaden thing. I have a sneaking suspicion that it's now under the Southern Nations, Nationalities, and Peoples Region. I just substantially expanded Ogaden War, even though I know next to nothing about Ethiopian history as a whole. Please drop by when you have a moment and give it the once over. Thanks! BanyanTree 06:53, 21 Mar 2005 (UTC)

p.s. I assume your question above is about the admin rollback function. A rollback javascript emulation for Special:Contributions has just been posted to the Village Pump if you want to check it out. - BanyanTree 01:15, 21 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Hi, Ogaden is another name for the whole of Somali Region. It's also called Ogadenia. (anonymous edit from 142.204.72.94)

Thanks, though I could really use a source for this information. I also request that when leaving messages on my talk page, you sign your posts by typing the characters -- ~~~~. Thanks, -- Gyrofrog (talk) 15:34, 5 Apr 2005 (UTC)

The page move seemed to go a bit odd - Wikipedia was playing up. I've always thought that the band was 'The Flowers of Romance' and the album/single was just 'Flowers of Romance'. The compact disc I have here in my left hand, which is (c) 1990 Virgin Records CDV 2189, is definitely 'Flowers of Romance'. It's here in fact: [1] However it does indeed look like the American release on Warners, XBS 3536, was 'The Flowers of Romance' [2] [3] Hunting around it appears that this entry on Discogs.com, [4] which is the original British LP release V 2189, is probably wrong or at least open to doubt, based on the Google results. [5] I would therefore conclude that the album was indeed called 'The Flowers of Romance' when released on Warners in America, but is otherwise 'Flowers of Romance', and I'll make a note of that in the article (or you will, if I am too badly wounded to do it myself).-Ashley Pomeroy 22:47, 24 Mar 2005 (UTC)

• It was undeniably 'The Flowers of Romance' on the original US vinyl issue, at least on the front sleeve (concerning the back, spine, and labels, I have no idea). Seems like a Warners art-department gaffe, as though someone hadn't had their coffee before pulling out the Letraset. Auto movil 18:21, 25 Mar 2005 (UTC)

== Re: The Flowers of Romance ==

Howdy! Looks like all the edits to The Flowers of Romance (band) lately are either by you, myself, or some anonymous associate of Tony Blackplait. Weird stuff going on with that article. Whenever I would dispute Blackplait's involvement in the original Flowers of Romance, the guy would come back and revert his own edits. Now he's created a duplicate article at The Flowers Of Romance which is now listed at VfD. Just want to make sure you knew which edits belonged to which editor... Generally I've been removing the {{Disputed}}, etc. tags after the guy removed the dubious claims. Take care, -- Gyrofrog (talk) 06:15, 24 Mar 2005 (UTC)

• P.S., also see the note I just left at Talk:The Flowers of Romance (band). -- Gyrofrog (talk) 06:55, 24 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Yup I'm keeping an eye on edits to FOR, I'd be happier if anon user would choose a user name and entrer into dialogue quercus robur 02:37, 25 Mar 2005 (UTC)

I don't think it really matters what the title is, there are a lot of lists that are just "Rulers of..." or something similar (Counts of, Dukes of, Kings of, etc), and lots that have "List of" in front of them...I don't think anything special happens if it begins with "List of" though. Adam Bishop 04:27, 25 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Thanks for the comments. I have been adding a lot of related material (there is also an article about George Gimarc; John Lilburne Research Institute; Province of the Carolanas and many others including PCRL. I noted your interests, I have a CD of the 4FWS reggae program on behalf of PCRL in Handsworth from the same time period. It was a benefit program and it contains Martin Luther King's "I have a dream", etc. The file is long (about 80 mintutes) because it is from a cassette aircheck from the FM broacast itself (reasonably good quality.) If you would like a copy then email mplx_bbc@hotmail.com with a mailing address and I will make you a copy for your personal collection. MPLX/MH 22:31, 1 Apr 2005 (UTC)

This is the second recreation of this "information" after it had already gone through VfD. The guy who created it originally at The Flowers Of Romance tried to claim that not only was he one of the members, but that they're from Sealand. It seems to be a hoax, or something, but anyway, they keep recreating it after it's passed VfD and it's going to get redeleted each time. Well, actually VfD consensus was to make The Flowers Of Romance a redirect to The Flowers of Romance. RickK 22:50, Apr 6, 2005 (UTC)

Thank you for correcting the latent redirects for Metal Box. --GRider\^talk 17:11, 7 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Hi Gyrofrog - this is how it is given in several (though I agree far from all) botanical texts, the reason being to indicate more clearly that it is not an ivy (Hedera); similarly that poison-oak is not an oak (Quercus). For similar examples, e.g. osage-orange (which is not an orange Citrus), and douglas-fir (not a fir Abies) - MPF 17:35, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)

I'm not sure what his story is. I've seen him on a few times with that "Wikipedia is communism" deal shtick, but I don't know how it got started. Just to be sure, I created Jimbo WaIes, so that he couldn't (what's worse is that in Arial font-type, the 'I' looks like a lower-case 'L'). – ClockworkSoul 03:43, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)

It looks like you have added this template to lots of anonymous user pages for different ISPs. I just wanted to confirm whether you are sure all the IPs that you marked as shared were indeed shared proxies or dynamic IPs. There are ISPs which own many IP addresses, most of which they give out to their customers, one per customer (static IP) and a few they use for proxy servers, if any, and probably a few could be used as dynamic IP addresses. Hence not all the addresses that give the name of a particular ISP on a "whois" query should be regarded as sharedIPs. e.g. my IP address is currently used only by me but shows my ISP on a "whois". -- Paddu 20:18, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)

I'm not saying it is wrong to use sharedIP at all. It is OK to use with most AOL IPs since they are proxies serving many customers. I was just pointing out that there were ISPs giving out static IPs that we have to be careful about. So we should stick to the ISPs we know enough about before assuming the IPs are shared. Please continue using the template for ISPs that are known to give out dynamic IPs or have a common proxy server, etc. -- Paddu 10:17, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Please list all your available dates in the table at Wikipedia:Meetup/Wikipedians of the East Coast field trip#Date. (I listed some that you said were alright) Thanks. --brian0918™ 18:34, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

The DC Meetup date has been finalized to May 7/8. Even if you can only come one of the days, that's still fine. Please watch this page for new details, which will be posted in the next couple days: Wikipedia:Meetup/Wikipedians of the East Coast field trip --brian0918™ 16:11, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Hey, it was cool meeting up in DC. See you around. —thames

I agree with your suggestion of making a new page for the border war. For reasons unknown to me several wars listed as "current" have end dates of several years ago... freestylefrappe 02:07, Apr 25, 2005 (UTC)

Great work, I have added the chancery pictures to List of Washington embassies and am looking for information to add some pages on the embassies themselves. Sorry it got you in trouble with the Secret Service. I had not problems getting the photos I did, but I can understand why photographing the Israeli embassy might attract attention. - SimonP 22:52, May 10, 2005 (UTC)

No problems, we didn't get in any trouble, it just made me a bit nervous. I was half-expecting this to occur at the Israeli embassy, based on my previous experience just walking around the block as I ran an errand up the street (a guard followed me from within the perimeter as I was walking outside). But actually, I was getting ready to photograph the Bangladeshi embassy when they approached us. -- Gyrofrog (talk) 23:05, 10 May 2005 (UTC)

according to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Axum_obelisk the agreement to return was made in April of 1997.

"After years of pressure, the Italian government agreed, in April 1997 to return it;"

No, the other editor was not myself, but I believe they too were correct.

--67.50.**.*** 12:39, 19 May 2005 (UTC)

That's correct, but it was at least the third such agreement on Italy's part. The 1947 Peace Treaty was the first, and the 1956 Italo-Ethiopian Agreement was another. -- Gyrofrog 18:00, 19 May 2005 (UTC)

Also see my comments at Talk:Obelisk of Axum. -- Gyrofrog 18:25, 19 May 2005 (UTC)

Thanks for your work at music of Ethiopia! Nice to see someone editing about that corner of the world! Tuf-Kat 21:20, Jun 12, 2005 (UTC)

Hopefully I will add some more soon. -- Gyrofrog (talk) 13:20, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)

I just want to say thanks to everyone working on Africa-related articles before the G8 conference. My contribution is adding the basic external links - we all do what we can, and that's about my limit. Go Bono! :-) 12.73.244.93 June 17

Hi Gyrofrog, I noticed that you reverted my edit at Eritrean-Ethiopian War. The reason I made the original change was that the UNMEF abbreviation was the one at Timeline of UN peacekeeping missions. Are you sure it's correct? (It seems that all UN abbreviations are of the French name for the group, so I'm never certain which is correct.) -- llywrch July 1, 2005 19:09 (UTC)

I'd say your evidence is far more convincing than mine -- & UNMEE makes more sense to me in any case. (You've been to Addis Ababa? The closest I've ever came was in proxy, when my Dad visited Sudan a couple of times in 1970s.) I guess one should just be bold & say UNMEE is correct -- until someone comes along with the actual UN order establishing the mission which gives the correct version. -- llywrch July 2, 2005 01:16 (UTC)

Hi Gyrofrog. It is UNMEE (United Nations Mission in Eritrea & Ethiopia) I was in Eritrea this summer.

I'd say you've done about as much as you can for the moment. You might want to talk to User:Burgundavia - he seems to be one of the unfree image expert. It's a serious issue, but it's not a critical issue. Best to see how experienced admins react. Guettarda 20:41, 17 July 2005 (UTC)

I agree with you. I have IMed the owner of the site who was the one objecting to the article and explained to him that I put this up for deletion solely due to notability and not beceause of his objections. Jtkiefer ^{T | @ | C} ----- 02:28, August 1, 2005 (UTC)

Hey, I'm sorry that some retards using our IP harassed you a few months ago. If something like this happens again, II will immediately notify the librarian/technician. Besides, school just started, so vandalism from this IP should be up. 205.173.47.254 20:55, 23 August 2005 (UTC)

I'm not sure that WP:AIV was the correct place to report that. For future reference, where should I report such impersonators? Was WP:VIP the right place? Thanks, -- Gyrofrog (talk) 19:14, 30 August 2005 (UTC)

For the clear-cut cases like this WP:AIV is fine as far as I'm concerned, if you're a little flexible in reading Wikipedia:Vandalism you can include imposter usernames as either sneaky vandalism or changing people's comments. If it's not absolutely crystal clear that it's an intentional impersonation WP:AN/I would probably be the correct venue. --fvw* 19:20, August 30, 2005 (UTC)

OK, thanks again. -- Gyrofrog (talk) 19:30, 30 August 2005 (UTC)

Hello. I see you are using one or more of the User instruments templates in your Babel box. Inspired by some recent developments, I want to rework all the templates in there (including ones used on user pages), to make them more like the regular Babel templates. However, I thought I should hear from the people this would affect before actually doing it. Please weigh in at User:Ddawson/User instruments. Ddawson 10:00, 6 September 2005 (UTC)

Thank you for uploading this excellent image! I have added it to T&P Station. -Thatdog 19:55, 9 September 2005 (UTC)

(Or AfD, or whatever it's called today.)

Hi Gyrofrog, I've nominated (with a lengthy explanation) three Ethiopia-related articles at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Atsbeha. While I'm fairly certain that they are either hoaxes or vanity nominations, could you have a look & add some input -- on the off chance I'm nominating a local celebrity or other notable person. Thanks. -- llywrch 23:25, 9 September 2005 (UTC)

Thanks for the input on this nomination. From the lack of response to this article, should I assume that I failed to make a convincing argument for its deletion? -- llywrch 22:48, 10 September 2005 (UTC)

I am asking past editors of the Karl Rove page to weigh in on a survey. If you can spare a couple of minutes, please visit this page: Talk:Karl Rove/September Survey, read the introduction, and answer the three questions that have been posed. Thank you. paul klenk 09:40, 16 September 2005 (UTC)

The Yelet Giorgis church where my father's kin (on his mother's side) worshipped for generations, stood on the same site and had a traditional thatched roof.

Sometime in the late forties, a bee colony had settled inside the thatched roof and was discovered by the priests as melting honey was trickling over the Tabot inside the inner sanctum. Some of the deacons and priests decided to get to the honey and it is said that they climbed over the sacred Tabot to reach it. And of course, to drive out the bees, they had burning/smoking embers which inevitably started the fire of doom that burnt the church to the ground.

However, the sheer weight of the centre piece of the thatched roof, fell on top of the Tabot and buried it in the ground, thus saving it from being consumed by fire.

The people of Buhe Amba; Gerar Amba; Ber; Girger (Yeletotch) searched for 3 days for the missing Giorgis Tabot among the ruins but failed to find it. It was an elder, sitting and wailing for the loss, who finds the missing tabot with his stick and sends for my father, Dejazmatch Kidane Woldemedhin in Addis.

This is how it all began. My father had the church re-built on the site of the old church and in 1949 (EC) the Tabot of Giorgis, now knwon as "Essatu Giorgis" since that fateful fire, was restored in its new home. When I was a mere 13 or 14 year old, I went with my dad to Bulga Yelet Giorgis and it was then that my admiration for the work; the pleasant memories of the Bulga Hospitality and the beauty of the rugged landscape began. We had workmen with us, carrying out repairs to the church.

My dad passed away in October1979 and it is probably over 15 years since any of us his children, visited Yelet Giorgis. In April 2004, my brothers Atnaf Seged and Wondwossen and I journeyed to Bulga where we celebrated St George's day with our kin. It was also during that visit that I committed to get the crumbling church re-built.

We have now begun! The foundation is built. Their new church is being built in locally quarried stone and will have a basement for storing church relics and property. Whilst the original, thatched roof church was the traditional circular build, my dad's church was square in shape. The new one under construction, will attempt to return to the traditional circular Ethiopian Church design and will have eight sides.

These pictures are intended to show, the changing face of Yelet Giorgis church as we progress with its construction.

Seifu Kidane

Hi Gyrofrog, I've been meaning to ask for a while, but would you be interesting in being nominated for adminship? You've been doing a great job on the Ethiopia pages, as well as other topics, and adminship tools makes cleaning up some of the messes easier.  ;) - BanyanTree 16:18, 26 September 2005 (UTC)

Wow, thanks! Yes, I'd definitely be interested. I hope I can continue to be as active as I have been lately. -- Gyrofrog (talk) 16:38, 26 September 2005 (UTC)

OK, please accept the nomination at Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/Gyrofrog. Good luck! - BanyanTree 20:16, 26 September 2005 (UTC)

I've accepted. Thanks again! -- Gyrofrog (talk) 20:29, 26 September 2005 (UTC)

Just a note. You left a comment on Wikipedia talk:Instruments/Adding under my top-level 'Other comments' heading without putting in your own subject heading. It's best if you just use the comment link, since it is a talk page. I guess it's my fault; next time I do something like this, I'll make sure the discussion starts on a talk page. Anyway, I inserted a subject heading; change it if you like. Ddawson 05:19, 27 September 2005 (UTC)

Sorry about this, wasn't sure whether to break it down another level. -- Gyrofrog (talk) 05:25, 27 September 2005 (UTC)

I don't think there is any point in addressing this guy. Do you have any objections to my removing the entire mess and suggesting that if he has further complaints about me personally he should file an RFC because I have no further patience with trolls? Guettarda 21:58, 28 September 2005 (UTC)

No, I'm saying I'm not open to his suggestions, and I should tell him that he should file an RfC against me, since he seems to think I am an abusive admin. Anyway, I am trying to answer some of his idiocies point by point without being too insulting. I very much doubt he will listen to facts, but I should take one more shot at AGF - or at least pretend to go through the motions... Guettarda 05:04, 29 September 2005 (UTC)

Hmm - I'm a firm believer in fragmented talk - it feels wrong to edit my own talk page. But anyway, I don't really expect him to file an RfC, and if he does, I'd be surprised if it passed the two-person threshold. There have been times when I have behaved badly, been uncivil in conversations, that kind of thing, but I don't even think I have behaved at all badly in this case - at least until I called him a 6th-grader tonight (correct me if I'm wrong). I have assumed it's been the same guy all along - he continues to use the word "eco-terrorist", the language has been pretty much the same throughout. He seems to take credit for the old edits I pulled up at random, but they may not have been all that old. It's funny really - I have not really edited that article - not the way it needs to be edited. It's on my watchlist because it is in desperate need of a re-write (although it has gotten better - was that your doing?)

Anyway, it's 12.30 here, I need to go to bed. Thanks for your input - Guettarda 05:31, 29 September 2005 (UTC)

Wow - I really thought I was writing that on my own page. Shows I really did need to get to bed :) - Guettarda 13:24, 29 September 2005 (UTC)

You guys are being trolled by someone whose behaviour and edit history very strongly resembles the Ray Nagin POV vandal "JimmyCrackedCorn." See Talk:Ray Nagin#Sockpuppets for more on that.--chris.lawson 12:56, 29 September 2005 (UTC)

I have promoted you to an admin. Congradulations. Please familiarize yourself with the all the relavant policies. Good luck. →Raul654 21:03, 3 October 2005 (UTC)

Congratulations on being made an admin! I thought you might like to know of a javascript tool that may help in your editing by giving easy access to many admin features. It's described at Wikipedia:Tools/Navigation popups. The quick version of the installation procedure for admins is to paste the following into User:Gyrofrog/2005/monobook.js:

// [[User:Lupin/popups.js]] - please include this line 

document.write('<script type="text/javascript" src="' 
             + 'http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Lupin/popups.js' 
             + '&action=raw&ctype=text/javascript&dontcountme=s"></script>');

popupShortcutKeys=true; // optional: enable keyboard shortcuts
popupAdminLinks=true;   // optional: enable admin links

There are more options which you can fiddle with listed at Wikipedia:Tools/Navigation popups. Give it a try and let me know if you find any glitches or have suggestions for improvements! Lupin|talk|popups 01:45, 4 October 2005 (UTC)

Congratulations! Hope you enjoy it. CambridgeBayWeather 05:21, 4 October 2005 (UTC)

Congratulations, and you're quite welcome! --Merovingian (t) (c) 07:58, 4 October 2005 (UTC)

Congratulations! Remember, with great moppage, comes great responsibility... --Dvyost 11:42, 4 October 2005 (UTC)

Can you look here, the format is changed with the articles down the page and the sidebars are full page... ThanksKyle Andrew Brown 22:30, 4 October 2005 (UTC)

The format looks the same to me. The portion on the right side (in the Classic skin, anyway) looks a little wider than usual, but I wonder if the width changes to adapt to the text therein. -- Gyrofrog (talk) 22:45, 4 October 2005 (UTC)

Gyrofrog, you have reverted my edit on the Austin talk page in which I added a link to an Austin community forum. This is an unecessary change, I direct you to the - Dallas page which has a link to a community forum on its page and it is a common resource to present to those who want information on the city. As far as I know, the link I gave is the only community forum for the city. -- —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.118.242.6 (talk • contribs) 02:03, 8 October 2005 (UTC)

• I have replied on your Talk page. -- Gyrofrog (talk) 06:21, 8 October 2005 (UTC)

Re:William Lynch Speech - I want to make it a featured article now. Thanks Gyro frog. Molotov (talk)
19:25, 20 October 2005 (UTC)

Added more responses on the talk. I hate Wikipedia. Molotov (talk)
03:49, 21 October 2005 (UTC)

See Talk:Trina for my response to your position. Wasted Time R 21:58, 25 October 2005 (UTC)

Thanks for your edit. I don't want to discourage you from the LoPbN-tree pages, so ignore this info if it seems awkward to act on: the list is of bio articles, so where the redirect is from a name to something that doesn't appear to be a bio, these are close to ideal responses:

• If (as in this case) a bio is simply impossible (nothing is known about him but his name on the book), deleting the entry is appropriate.
• If there is enuf about them in the non-bio to write an informative sentence abt the person, write a one sentence stub & tag it with {{bio-stub}} (or a more specific bio stub).
• What you did is also great, bcz it draws attention to a problem.

BTW, is the pop-up thingy supposed to work on MS IE 6.0.2 & Win XP? For me it did abt 10% of what is promised, and was too much of annoyance to put up with for so little.

Multiple thanks. --Jerzy•t 01:12, 28 October 2005 (UTC)

As i say, looking far enuf to have that information is too much to expect, and i'm just glad to have my attention drawn to it. But i'm not sure how many ed'rs give any thot to a rdr from a bio-like title not making an article a bio!

I was seeing previews by hovering lks, but it seemed to slow other things down enuf that i'd like to be able to turn it on & off, and there was a lk in the same box, apparently to a menu for the other services, that did nothing (unless clicking on it was what brought up the "error" indication in the lower left corner of the window, where it usually says "Done"). Hmm, and my pop-up blocker is set to accept them from WP. [Shrug] I feel kind left out; looks like nice stuff. Tnx again.
--Jerzy•t 02:58, 28 October 2005 (UTC)

I noticed your comment on User:Jerzy's talk page about pop-up contents not being accessible if at the bottom of a page. I have this problem as well but there is a work around that is effective in most cases. If you resize your browser window so that it is tall and skinny, so that the text of the page is squeezed into a column that is about 10 to 15 words wide (an estimate), the full pop-up windows can almost always be accessed. Another work around is to resize your browser window so that the edge of the pop-up is near your(typically) right-hand down-scroll bar position; even if the scroll bar is not apparent before making the pop-up materialize, it will show up after the pop-up shows and if you quickly skip your mouse into the scroll bar, click, and skip back to the pop-up window you can often scroll the page down to where you can see the bottom of the pop-up window which lies beyond the bottom of the normal page. This second solution can be awkward and is dependent on the javascript refresh speed and your mouse reaction speed (or so I believe). For information, I use FireFox 1.0.4 on a Win98-secondEdition machine. I've found these two work arounds out by needing them to do pop-up-assisted disambiguation work. Courtland 03:22, 28 October 2005 (UTC)

Hi Gyrofrog,

See if that weird spacing problem you noticed on the Baroque music page yesterday is gone for you (I'm not sure what browser you use). I was having the same problem (on IE). I tweaked the "History of European Art Music" template and will tweak some more if the problem persists. It's kind of an odd one. Happy editing! Antandrus (talk) 14:59, 28 October 2005 (UTC)

So know what is going on with you know what. You sort of remind me of Ronald McDonald

File:Gyrofrog.jpg

Just joking. : ). Smile. 65.35.197.181 04:23, 17 November 2005 (UTC)

You can't tell from the picture, but I was also wearing the baggy yellow pants like Ronald's. -- Gyrofrog (talk) 05:11, 17 November 2005 (UTC)

• Yes they can, The "alleged e-mail correspondence with Mike Etoll" can be verified BY YOU! Everything I have posted here can. Look at the pictures, do some work and research, and verify the things that you are concerned with yourself. Lung asked me by phone last night if I would correct certain statements on her Wikipedia page, and add some new photographs. I said yes, and she emailed me the pictures and text changes.

Would you do me a favor? Please verify that the hair shown in your picture is not a hairpiece, also verify that it is an actual picture of you.

Thank you. -MIKE ETOLL posted by 65.25.215.205 (talk • contribs)

I have responded at User talk:65.25.215.205. -- Gyrofrog (talk)

Thanks for your help with these. User:80.217.152.161 does not seem to respond to any comments left on his talk page. IF he did it would help to clear up what it is he is trying to do. I've left the user another messeage asking them to discuss it on the respective talk pages for the articles or with one of us. BTW, I also do a lot of editing at work but I'm not brave enough to proclaim it on my user page. CambridgeBayWeather (Talk) 20:54, 22 November 2005 (UTC)

I'm at a loss. Yesterday I just blindly reverted but that's just going to lead to an edit war. Do you know of any editors that have a good knowledge of Africa. I'll look around and see. CambridgeBayWeather (Talk) 21:30, 23 November 2005 (UTC)

That sounds like a good idea. If we could at least get some sort of an answer out of the guy. I didn't actually do anything last night to any of his edits. CambridgeBayWeather (Talk) 20:22, 24 November 2005 (UTC)

I think because of the reasons you mentioned that protection is probably the only way to go. Along with a note on his talk page that if he wants to make changes then contact someone first. CambridgeBayWeather (Talk) 19:29, 26 November 2005 (UTC)

I went to go change them but I saw you had already done so. At this point I can't really think of anything that we can do to get the editor to actually respond. Let me know if you want to file a RfC. CambridgeBayWeather (Talk) 09:50, 29 November 2005 (UTC)

i did not mean to comitt vandalism. I was completely unaware of my mistake. Thank you for informing me of this. i just could not help myself, you see. I love Medabots. I promise I shall never take part in such a crime ever again. Please accept my deepest apologies.

Thank you again. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.12.116.11 (talk • contribs) 21:23, 26 November 2005 (UTC)

The article is already (slowly) being worked on, and has shown improvement over the last month. If you aren't going to leave a note at talk:Oxnard, California on what you think needs cleanup after your drive-by tagging, then I'm going to remove the {{cleanup-date}} template that you added to the article. ^BlankVerse 15:32, 30 November 2005 (UTC)

On another article that I've done a little work on, that is in the middle of a major rewrite, someone else recently did a drive-by cleanup tagging (mostly because they thought that some of the new photos were too large). Because of that instance and a few other ocassions where an article has been tagged without any clue as to why it was tagged, I am starting to turn very grumpy about that particular template.

My personal opinion is that the template needs to be changed to have two parameters, a date and a reason for leaving the tag. Then if someone doesn't leave a reason or a message of the article's talk page, then it would be grounds for automatically removing the template. </rant>

Thank you for doing the copy-editing to the article. ^BlankVerse 16:20, 30 November 2005 (UTC)

Looks fine to me and I have no problems signing it. I'll be here for about 30 mins then away for several hours. CambridgeBayWeather (Talk) 16:32, 2 December 2005 (UTC)

I've signed it and added the RfC link to 80.217.152.161 and 193.13.57.225. CambridgeBayWeather (Talk) 16:56, 2 December 2005 (UTC)

http://encyclopedia.thefreedictionary.com/Mohamed+Farrah+Aidid <<<< this is a reliable source for the edit —preceding unsigned comment by 69.204.28.38 (talk • contribs) 00:03, 9 December 2005 (UTC)

• I have replied on your talk page. (Briefly: this is a mirrored copy of the Wikipedia article in question.)

http://www.theestimate.com/public/011102a.html <<< this is another version but it is not copied from this site —preceding unsigned comment by 69.204.28.38 (talk • contribs) 00:39, 10 December 2005 (UTC)

hey do you like C&C Tiberian sun?-MR Aidid

hey gyro look at the article http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Command_&_Conquer then you will know what it is

He's back again and making more edits. His edits to Jubba Airways are still there and although the English is not the greatest neither is the Jubba Airways website. CambridgeBayWeather (Talk) 15:17, 12 December 2005 (UTC)

I can't believe that I missed seeing that. Thanks CambridgeBayWeather (Talk) 15:50, 12 December 2005 (UTC)

I don't think the RfC is going to help but at least it shows that an attempt was made to reason with him. CambridgeBayWeather (Talk) 16:00, 12 December 2005 (UTC)

Just a quick "love on ya" for clarifying the King Crimson ref. in the Lodger article - cheers Ian Rose 15:23, 13 December 2005 (UTC)

You've long deserved something of this sort, and well, it's finally been created! Know that your good work has been long noticed and appreciated. Cheers, --Dvyost 17:18, 14 December 2005 (UTC)

I revert, I check, I revert again if need be. It's been done before. 68.39.174.238 20:53, 15 December 2005 (UTC)

Hi, it would be nice to see that image on the page but I think you`re doing the right thing. Cheers. Exlibris 05:43, 16 December 2005 (UTC)

Part I This famous patriot, born in Bulga, Yelet Giorgis, in a village known as Buhe Amba, started his campaign in Eastern Ethiopia where he was posted as an 18 year old soldter. He was taken prisoner by the Italians, who after 5 months of hard labour, transported him with others to a prisoner of war camp in Wollisso. Whilst in this prison, Aba Kesto secretely persuaded 100 prisoners to join him in a breakout. They fought their way out of the camp with weapons and amunition they had been stealing from the Italians whilst they were prisoners.

From there, Aba Kesto and his men began their journey to join the resistance army in Northern Shewa and en route met up with Dejazmatch Geressu Duki where they participated in several campaigns. Whilst with Geressu, the resistance army was visited by the Italian spy, Sebastiano Castagna(Muse Questegna), led to them by five local Balabats. Castagna gathered the army and told them to give up the fight the emperor himself had abandoned and to surrender to Italy, who would reward each one of them with titles, etc. The Arbegnotch had already heard that Castagna (known by the Ethiopians as Muse Qestegna) had been to Abebe Aregai's camp to establish that army's strength. Subsequent to which, Grazziani had sent aircraft and heavy artilery against Abebe Aregai's resistance fighters.

Aba Kesto escorting Castagna back to his camp after the propaganda meeting, told him to remove his gabardine cloak and to step off his mule. He then executed this Italian spy claiming his cloak, mule and a watch with Empress Zauditu's picture on it. At this point the traitor balabatoch returned to their Italian masters who unleashed their military might on Geressu's and Aba Kesto's men. The Italians were denied Castagnas corpse for 3 days by the gallant Ethiopians.

Geressu Duki asked Aba Kesto to submit his loot from Castagna as his commander. Aba Kesto refused to surrender these and left the camp with his men and started his journey to Northern Shewa where he and his men joined up with Ras Abebe Aregai. —preceding unsigned comment by 82.43.123.69 (talk • contribs) 03:46, 19 December 2005 (UTC)--82.43.123.69 11:03, 31 December 2005 (UTC)

Yes, thumb or frame are required for a caption to be visible - but in this case, it doesn't need to be. The caption also acts as an Alt text. --Golbez 19:56, 22 December 2005 (UTC)

Dear Gyrofrog, Yes it is true that tigrigna is widely being in use in the United states, Canada and the rest of the world, however these tigrigna speaking population living in this countries are imigrants, but in the case of Israel; the people residing there have been relocated from northern part of Ethiopia mainly Gonder and Tigray which predominantly speak Tigrigna and these group of people are also not considered imigrants as they are decendants of Israel and they are Jews who have returned back home after staying refuge in Ethiopia and other countries. About Eritrea; as you have tacitly mentioned both the tigrians and the Eritreans come from the same ancestors which they both share the same language, culture and values which is slightly been influenced by the Italian occupation of Eritrea, since Tigray was not then of interest and easyly acessable for various reasons to the Italians, Tigray luckily maintained the cluture and somewhat inherited both is culture and language un-influenced, hope to have given you some information. —the preceding unsigned comment is by 213.55.89.8 (talk • contribs) 16:10, 25 December 2005 (UTC)

Greetings sir,

Pentay describes the Pentecostal/charismatic denominations inside Ethiopia. Since Evangelicals, Methodists, (Even baptists) and Pentecostals worship under the same church in Ethiopia, Pentay has been used to these Christian denominations which are not Ethiopian Orthodox. They are all believers of the trinity as Evangelicals, baptists, holliness and most modern Pentecostals are. And as you might have guessed, they stress the outpouring of the holy Ghost/ Holy spirit which is sent to them when Christ rose and went to the "right" hand of the father. So Pentay is not a community, it is a religion that brings a few of the Protestant denominations together in regards to their differences to the dominant Ethiopian Orthodox Church.-- sincerely...EthioM