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Hi Gilgamesh, I noticed the dust-up on referencing style at Younger Dryas, and I have something that may help next time. I discovered it too late for a timely comment there, and I probably wouldn't have wanted to get involved in the middle of it anyway, but here's a compromise alternative to think about, that might keep everyone happy, or at least reasonably unruffled, if this same situation recurs: it's List-defined references.

I believe I understand why you like 'exploded' refs (one per line): it's because when placed inline, it makes it much easier to find what is article text, and what is citation wikicode, so you can modify the article without getting all tangled up. I remember a horror show at the 'Eric Zemmour' article, where I simply couldn't find the running text of the lead paragraph, because it was a contentious topic and had so many citations that it was almost impossible to find the words of a single sentence strewn with numerous embedded citations. The spaghetti code at Zemmour made Dryas look like a paragon of minimalist architecture. It was completely unreadable, unmanageable, and uneditable, until I converted it to LDR, and even though it's still ridiculously overcited, at least the lead wikicode is easily readable now in the code-editing preview window. (The trade-off is that the "References" section is way longer than it needs to be now, but it's all tidy and orderly and it doesn't intrude when what you want to do is to edit the lead paragraph.)

If you want to see the old horror show, have a look at the wikicode for the first couple of paragraphs at 'Eric Zemmour' from revision 1057491695 of 27 November 2021, and then compare that to now: Eric Zemmour. The LDR style used in the current version gets you what you want, I believe, in minimizing the WP:CITECLUTTER. I'm pretty sure the other editor you were scrapping with wouldn't mind this style either, because if you edit the current Éric_Zemmour#References section, you'll see it's all nicely organized, alphabetical, and in the 'tight' style he prefers.

If you find that that use of LDRs is an acceptable solution for you and might be a viable compromise for your discussion partner, I hope it may help you in future discussions of this nature. Cheers, Mathglot (talk) 22:46, 15 December 2023 (UTC)