Gareth Griffith-Jones' Talk
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Born	Gareth Griffith-Jones (1942-04-28) 28 April 1942 (age 82) Cardiff
Nationality	Wales

Thursday, December 26, 2024

Hello Gareth - it's been quite a while since we last spoke! Hope all is well with you during these times? Patient Zero^talk 16:07, 23 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

+1 Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 18:34, 23 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Chesnaught555 (Ches) and Grabs.
I am fine; thank you both for enquiring.
Now enjoying our first day of living in the UK as a police state.
All the best to you both and do keep to a minimum of 6' 6 between yourself and anybody else. Such fun! Gareth Griffith-Jones (contribs) (talk) 15:33, 24 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Haha, that's quite the throwback. :) Glad to hear! I wouldn't mind the lockdown so much if it weren't for the fact it's nice and sunny outside here... I just returned from university owing to the fact that all my lectures have been cancelled - it's probably a fair bit safer here in the country! Take care, Patient Zero^talk 16:09, 24 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Gareth. First of all, how are you? I hope you are doing great. I added epic as a genre because it is pretty much always considered that way, but I may be missing something. Could you please explain why it is not an epic film? Thanks and I wish you a nice day! :) --Mazewaxie (talk • contribs) 12:38, 27 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Mazewaxie. I am very well, thank you, and do hope that you are too.
This is it an epic or not argument has erupted on Wikipedia for years.
GFII spans a long period with many aspects and developments, whereas The Godfather has a quite short timeframe. The archives refer to this on a considerable number of times with the consensus reached that it is not an epic. Does this help? Gareth Griffith-Jones (contribs) (talk) 13:44, 27 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Oh, okay. I think I understood. Thanks for the explanation. I wish you a nice day! :) --Mazewaxie (talk • contribs) 14:28, 27 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I have just stolen your userbox with this edit. Cheers! Gareth Griffith-Jones (contribs) (talk) 17:06, 27 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Nice! I'm glad you like it! By the way, what's your opinion on The Godfather Part III? Personally I considered it to be a disappointment, in my opinion Part II is a better and more powerful finale. --Mazewaxie (talk • contribs) 17:11, 27 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

No, I was not disappointed but I do tend to agree with you on GFII. However, for me, Al Pacino can do no wrong. Gareth Griffith-Jones (contribs) (talk) 17:18, 27 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Are you able to help with this one, please?

And thank you, if you did, for thinking on it.

Be well. Charles01 (talk) 09:05, 5 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

(With apologies for sending this same request to two people: I don't really care for "standard paragraphs".)

Hi Charles, good to hear from you.
I only know about St Mellons which borders Rumney to the east. [1]
How did you get involved with this?
Cheers! Gareth Griffith-Jones (contribs) (talk) 10:43, 5 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Like I wrote, thank you for thinking about it. I can't remember precisely why, but Cardiff is on my wiki-watch list. Two of my children study/studied "at" Cardiff Uni, so we've got into the habit of making fairly regular visits, and since I didn't like to pay a supplementary anti-Wales tax for the privilege of joining a traffic jam at the frontier heading west, we also became fairly familiar with the "old" route via Gloucester and Monmouth (or Chepstow). I got involved in this discussion simply because it caught my eye and I've been vaguely intrigued by the not quite English not quite Welsh status of Monmouth since (I think...) I was 8.

Too much info? Hu hum & best wishes. Charles01 (talk) 10:50, 5 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Ha, ha! At least the supplementary anti-Wales tax was abolished on 17 December 2018.
All the best!
Gareth Griffith-Jones (contribs) (talk) 10:58, 5 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Recommended listening! Hope you're well! † Encyclopædius 17:39, 6 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Encyclopædius. I am very well, thank you, and do hope that you are too.
How kind of you to be thinking of me and the great music.
Regarding the post/request immediately above yours, I had noted that you were the other recipient.
Cheers! Gareth Griffith-Jones (contribs) (talk) 14:48, 7 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

or: the resurrection of loving-kindness --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:38, 12 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you, Gerda, and wishing you Happy Easter too!
I did not switch my PC on yesterday.
Gareth Griffith-Jones (contribs) (talk) 10:32, 13 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

no problem, it's Easter to Pentecost ;) - today Le Concert Spirituel --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:25, 22 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you Gerda. Pentecost is fifty days after Easter Sunday. Gareth Griffith-Jones (contribs) (talk) 20:39, 22 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

... and today Credo, or this is the day from Psalm 118. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:03, 28 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you Gerda for this. Gareth Griffith-Jones (contribs) (talk) 13:43, 28 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Gareth. I hope that you have a wonderful birthday in spite of the craziness of the times. Many happy returns of the day as well. Cheers. MarnetteD|Talk 07:07, 28 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

And from me as well. Sincerely, Tony Holkham (Talk) 11:07, 28 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you, Michael and Tony. So kind of you both to remember, especially in this frightening global environment. Cheers! Gareth Griffith-Jones (contribs) (talk) 13:39, 28 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Gareth, I'm puzzled by your nonchalant Godfather revert. Are there several versions of the movie? In the one I re-checked just now, Hagen is forced into the car at 44:19, Vito shot in the scene immediately following that. Hence "Later, Sollozzo kidnaps Hagen, then has Vito gunned down in the street." You reverted that to the opposite order, "Later, Sollozzo has Vito gunned down in the street, then kidnaps Hagen," with the comment "Correct as it was". Again, not sure if there may be other versions, but for the version I saw, that is definitely not true. Markus Pössel (talk) 22:18, 3 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Markus. Thank you for your post.
No, there is only one version. A plot summary does not have to be entirely chronologically correct if it suits the prose.
I have restored your version. Many years have passed since I last both read the book and watched the film.
Thank you for the correction. All the best! Gareth Griffith-Jones (contribs) (talk) 16:45, 4 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

OK, thank you! Markus Pössel (talk) 14:05, 5 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, Gareth! I'm mildly suprised by the confusion over series v. season in the reference you edited at Line of Duty (TV series). Deadline is an American online publication reporting international sales of Line of Duty, so they used Season in the title of the article. We use that term to describe a run of episodes regardless of the show's origin, which I'm sure you know. Thus it should be included in the citation rather than being changes to series, regardless of whether the series itself is British or American, so that we cite the title of the article correctly. That's why I made the change I made. That's been standard policy for as long as I can remember. ----Dr.Margi ✉ 20:02, 11 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Good morning dear friend, Trust you are well and thank you for taking the trouble of replying to my es here. I was expecting a tiny reaction to my edit, and I am delighted it came from you. We are going to have a long wait for Series 6.
All the best! Gareth Griffith-Jones (contribs) (talk) 08:51, 12 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Good morning to you, too! Thanks for being a pal about the change; I thought you'd understand if I left a wee note. You're right about the wait. I'm rewatching S1-5, trying to map out all the H characters. What a challenge! Hope you're well and making the best of out altered times! ----Dr.Margi ✉ 09:04, 12 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, I am keeping well. Such an excellent programme. I have every episode recorded free-of-charge from the BBC on my Virgin Media TiVo box. Gareth Griffith-Jones (contribs) (talk) 09:16, 12 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Can you access the American drama Bosch? It's an Amazon Video production. There are 60 episodes over 6 seasons as of now, and they are quite wonderful. It's not so complex as Line of Duty, but a good American-style character drive police procedural with a fabulous ensemble cast, set in LA. It's well worth a look. ----Dr.Margi ✉ 09:32, 12 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

No, not free from Virgin Media, but thanks for the tip. I shall see how much they would charge me, as well as Amazon.
I see that the series was renewed for a seventh and final season on February 13, 2020.
I have seen every episode of The Wire. Gareth Griffith-Jones (contribs) (talk) 09:47, 12 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for your input and encouragement Gareth but if these latest edits by Verbcatcher are restored they will just about put paid to my attempts Wiki-editing given what's gone before.Sirjohnperrot (talk) 14:10, 18 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Don't despair. you are working hard and there is so much to learn. It is difficult to stop yourself rushing in, but I find it best to step away for a few days. Takes the heat out of it. Gareth Griffith-Jones (contribs) (talk) 14:19, 18 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Wise counsel but I can't help feeling it's got personal. The irony is that my attempts to include specific Laugharne references in all three P articles were reverted although it's quite certain they qualify as residents - albeit briefly in the case of Sir Thomas through his early demise. Also I've been working on a revised history section for quite a while and was planning to unveil it for comment soon - goodness knows what errors lurk in there....Sirjohnperrot (talk) 14:37, 18 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

(talk page stalker) Phil - I echo Gareth's comments. Editors will be bold and make sweeping changes, and others will change them, which is the way WP eventually gets to a decent article. Your input is just as important as any other editor's, but there is plenty of time. All the best, T. Tony Holkham (Talk) 14:52, 18 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks Tony, I'll step back for a while.Sirjohnperrot (talk) 18:29, 18 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Have you read these posts? A compromise has been reached thanks to Snowded.
So keep away from the article and concentrate on the three Perrot articles. Gareth Griffith-Jones (contribs) (talk) 08:53, 19 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The fires of dialectical purification are burning so brightly there and at such an elevated level of generality that (Tony excepted) they'll probably not notice my addition of the requested references for a while :) Sirjohnperrot (talk) 21:55, 19 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Sirjohnperrot you have the natural profile of a good wikipedia editor but you need to work within its constraints. The success of wikipedia lies in it enforcing behavioural rules rather than determining content. You were terribly aggressive to me when I first reverted you but a little patience is rewarded. I can't see any editor on that article who isn't trying to help make it better and you have a pathway mapped out -----Snowded ^TALK 06:54, 20 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

SnowdedI'll try to be less combative but my instincts tend towards the polemical, which is not a good fit on here I agree. Also my mistakes are legion, as are their corrections - never a comfortable outcome for someone with so much snow in his beard ;) This simple attempt to put the Perrots back on their home turf has turned out to be unexpectedly testing but for reasons that are interesting. I remain puzzled why this Notable People section does not resemble that in the 'good article' status example Milton Haven recommended as a model. The narrative style there allows for category and family grouping without boundary disputes and provides a more readable and informative 'stand-alone' treatment of the subject than that of a simple list - which in the Laugharne case seems to need encirclement by ever more complex citations. The recent one by User:Verbcatcher is a case in point

• Sir James Perrot (1571-1636) writer and Member of Parliament, lived in Laugharne^{[notes 1]} These same explanatory additions could also be applied to Judge Powell and his son Sir Thomas both of Broadway. The modern settlement there, like Llanmiloe and Westmead Mansion, postdated the building of Broadway Mansion (whose estate bordered that of Westead Mansion) the two buildngs were both in the Lordship, Marcher Borough, Ecclesiastical (until 2019) and Civil Parish (until 1935) of Laugharne. The HoP citation for Sir Thomas actually reads "Thomas’ appointment to the mid-Wales circuit was presumably made to gratify his father, and even after Sir John’s death royal favour continued to flow: a grant in 1697 of a market and two fairs to be held annually in his town of Laugharne; the following year a baronetcy." Exactly the same applies to Sir James Perrot, Laugharne was his town too - there was nowhere else for over two hundred years. It is simply incorrect to also have him as Notable Resident of Llanmiloe - it didn't exist. Better stop - glint of helmet and all that Sirjohnperrot (talk) 13:24, 20 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Ha, ha!
It is Milford Haven not Milton Haven. Another of your " my mistakes are legion".
Best way to deal with this issue is to always use the Preview before Publish changes. Cheers! Gareth Griffith-Jones (contribs) (talk) 17:31, 20 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The other 125 typos that I didn't miss are but small consolation  ;-( especially since we once spent an unforgettable wet weekend in Angle Bay visiting this early Perrot seat (my photo!) May I also just compliment you on your remarkable ability to put things inside brackets - it's humbling. Sirjohnperrot (talk) 18:04, 20 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Gareth, I agree with your edit to [[Clarke Peters, but not your edit summary ... there are actually other places called Edinburgh! The one in Scotland is certainly the most notable though, by a very very wide margin. Living in a uniquely named place (in an area with its own place-naming peculiarities, I just had to check for myself. Being an Aussie weather nut, I knew about the air force base, but not about the suburb ... Graham87 07:22, 24 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Graham,
How kind of you to contact me. I enjoyed reading your post with all the links. Of course, I should have checked before making that false claim.
I have read your User page and I am in awe of your achievement. All the best! Gareth Griffith-Jones (contribs) (talk) 17:11, 24 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Wha'cha been up to, Gareth? Hope all is well on your end. 💐 ^Atsme _Talk 📧 22:42, 28 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hiya Betty,
Great that you're thinking about me in these weird times. Yes, all is fine with me and my Staffie, Chancer.
Always keeping an eye on your Talk and I nearly joined in @ this fun. BTW you typed in that caption, {{noping|Martin...}}. Now why would this be used?
With love, Gareth. Gareth Griffith-Jones (contribs) (talk) 11:22, 29 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I use the "no ping" feature when a full sig isn't necessary. It still provides a live links to the user's page and works with mouseover, but doesn't disturb them with a ping. Feel free at anytime to join the discussions on my UTP. ^Atsme _Talk 📧 13:32, 29 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, I recently replaced the infobox image in the Swansea and Pembrokeshire articles with photomontages and descriptions, in the same style as many other wiki articles for cities (see pages for Cardiff, Dublin, London) and counties (see Carmarthenshire, Ceredigion). On 13/08/20 you reverted my first edit on the Swansea article for the given reason 'Just a muddle of poor, cluttered photos that add nothing of value.'.

Taking this feedback on board, I have today (03/09/20) attempted to add a photomontage again, this time with an improved selection of photos and with the correct formatting as set out at Template:Photo_montage. I also added similar features to the articles for Pembrokeshire and Gower.

I was disappointed to see that a few hours later, my edits were reverted again, with the given reason 'These are not improvements'. I was just wondering if I could seek clarity about why these edits were not appropriate. I was especially confused by the removal of the photomontage as these are now very common across wikipedia articles for large cities and towns and felt as though they added a lot to the articles.

I will not attempt to revert the articles again to avoid an edit war! I appreciate that the edits that I am making may be problematic and I apologise if this is the case, I am a new user and I do not intend to cause any trouble so please correct me if this is so! Cheers Sm01792 (talk) 19:40, 3 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Please take this to the article's Talk and follow the Wikipedia:BOLD, revert, discuss cycle. You have been "Bold" and have been reverted. Now you need to establish a consensus. The onus is on you to gain approval. There is much wrong with your idea of a photomontage. Until interested editors have had their opportunity to have a discussion, do not keep adding it to the article. See WP:3R.
Gareth Griffith-Jones (contribs) (talk) 16:28, 6 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Gareth! You probably don't remember me--I left WP for a couple of years and have just recently returned and wanted to say Hi. Hope you are staying safe in this crazy time. All the best, Jenhawk777 (talk) 03:46, 4 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Of course, I remember you! Lovely to hear from you and to know that you are back with us. Yes, I am well and being ultra-aware at all times. You be sure to keep safe dear friend. All the best! Gareth Griffith-Jones (contribs) (talk) 18:25, 5 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I'm glad to hear back from you. You were so kind to me when I was under such duress with that bullying editor. Someone else took him to arbitration and he is now off of WP for a year--so that's why I am back! We'll see what happens at the end of the year, but for now I am genuinely enjoying being here. It's an entirely different experience! I didn't understand when people said WP was fun, but now I do. Part of that is people like you who make this a better place, so I just wanted to be sure I said that. Thank you. Thank you for being who you are and making where you are better because you're there. Jenhawk777 (talk) 19:22, 5 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

A beautiful sentiment expressed by a very lovely lady. I shall keep in touch. Gareth Griffith-Jones (contribs) (talk) 15:52, 6 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Me too! Jenhawk777 (talk) 17:49, 6 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Gareth, dear Gareth, many enthusiastic congratulations on being on the list with 85,900 edits! I can hardly imagine! I am making up a badge I can wear around saying "I know Gareth Griffith-Jones personally!" just so I can brag on you! I need a template for a user-box for it--and if I had as many edits as you have I would probably know how to make one! I am proud to know you.  :-) Jenhawk777 (talk) 18:48, 6 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I just looked up when we first made contact and it was then—almost exactly two years ago to the day.
Thank you, Jenny, for your encouragement and great fun! Even if you did take 900 edits from me, Don't worry, I have adjusted your post above.
We are hearing a lot about the weather that you have been both experiencing and expecting. Praying that you are not affected.
Gareth Griffith-Jones (contribs) (talk) 14:30, 7 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

So it's been two years since you sent me roses?!? LOL!! Since I was gone for a year and a half of that, I will let you off the hook. :-) Thank you for the compliment, I will be sure and tell Grabergs there are benefits to having a WP "puppy" in your life! Weather has gone to the west of us to Texas--poor Texas--they got hit by the last ones. I am on the northern edge of the Gulf of Mexico

in Mobile. I have been here for 12 years now and am still what they call around here a hurricane 'virgin.' I hope to remain celibate!  :-) Jenhawk777 (talk) 19:27, 7 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Ha, ha! That is very funny; I laughed out loud.
Thanks for the map. You posted me a couple two years ago, but this one is by far the best. You are not far from New Orleans.
Isn't there a song about Alabama? [2]
Gareth Griffith-Jones (contribs) (talk) 10:45, 8 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I don't know how you remember what I posted two years ago, I can't remember what I posted last week! I am not too far from the Big Easy, about two hours, but it's a different world in a lot of ways. The song most often played about Alabama the state--not the band--is Lynard Skynard's [[3]]. It gets cheered everywhere, even outside Alabama, because it's a great song, and is a requirement for any band playing anywhere in the state. Hope you and yours are all staying well. I had to tell my granddaughter not to come visit this past weekend. It's all very distressing. Jenhawk777 (talk) 15:24, 8 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Just played your choice. I see that you changed the bizarre spelling of Lynyrd Skynyrd to a readable version. I can understand its popularity. A long-established group with a tragic history. Thanks for the introduction.
How old is she? Is she far away?
Gareth Griffith-Jones (contribs) (talk) 15:43, 8 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

She is in college, in her second year on an Army ROTC scholarship, making all As and kickin' butt!  ;-) She is going to the University of Alabama a few hours from here. Her family is in Florida. It was a holiday weekend so she wanted to see us. Her parents divorced when she was little and I have kind of been their refuge of stability. Their mom did her best, but circumstances were not in her favor. Abby had to pick up the slack and be the mom at home--which I know is part of what turned her into this amazing adult--but kids should get to be kids. I expected her to cut loose some in college but she hasn't yet. We are pretty close and it killed me to tell her no. I know she understands but that doesn't prevent disappointment. Gareth--correcting my mistakes just makes me self-conscious instead of relaxed writing you... I want to think any mistakes between us don't matter. Sigh. Perhaps I should never get that relaxed on WP. It might bleed over... I'm glad you liked the song. It's considered a 'classic' rock song over here across the pond. Jenhawk777 (talk) 18:59, 8 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

^{( Buttinsky)} Hi, Jenhawk777!! So happy to see you back on WP. It appears we have more in common than I ever imagined, including a sincere appreciation for sweet Gareth! ^Atsme _Talk 📧 19:20, 8 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Atsme: (Sorry I forgot to ping this originally) I personally am a confirmed Talkpage stalker and uphold the right for anyone else to do so as well--especially when it involves stalking Gareth. He is entirely stalkable. I am always glad to make a new friend--I think perhaps we have run into each other--fleetingly--around and about, but it's definitely cool to find you here. Thank you so much for the welcome back. I am having a completely different experience from my beginnings here--a good one now! Part of that is due to dear Gareth--and people like you of course. I would love to hear about what we have in common--but perhaps Gareth doesn't want us to use his Talk page like a coffee shop as I have done to our other friend Grabergs Gra Sang--which is not spelled correctly with the little o's above the vowels so he doesn't know I am talking about him. :-) There aren't enough words in the language to say all the good things that can be said about these two. They are pretty amazing people. Jenhawk777 (talk) 22:19, 8 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Good afternoon Jenny and Betty. I have at last stopped experiencing a dose of Erythrophobia. You make me proud to know you lovely ladies.
Jenny, in no way, was I correcting your post. On the contrary, I was commenting on their vowel-less name and appreciating your much better-revised version. Actually, my first thought on reading the article was to look for a link to Wales because the letters y and w in Welsh are both vowels. So please, never not be relaxed whenever we communicate! I enjoy our chats too much and I only smile whenever I come across any of them.

A coffee shop here? Bring it on!
BTW Grabs does not need a ping or linking to bring him to this coffee shop. I know that for a fact; he watches me—as I do him—and he knows that he is welcome to drop in here whenever it suits him.
Au revoir mes belles dames,
Gareth Griffith-Jones (contribs) (talk) 16:15, 9 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

You know what Gareth Griffith-Jones? You correct anything of mine that you darn well please, and I promise to stay relaxed anyway just because it's you. No worries. So, good. Grabergs can be the one to come to your coffee shop, instead of us going to his and adding to how much I have written on his Talkpage! Now I can be a top contributor to yours. So, if you are following events, you will know I had a scare last night when I found a published article that had copied from Biblical criticism which I worked on for months, and have been re-editing in the hopes of taking it to FA. It now has a backwards copyvio template on it--thanks to our knowledgable and illustrious friend. I am afraid of Dianna showing up! Fortunately I can show my work was a year before theirs. It was all a little surreal when I first started reading it!

So now we need a new song so we can include Betty--the Three Amigos won't cut it! Youtube research! Jenhawk777 (talk) 16:51, 9 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Good afternoon, Gareth. A bit of blushing is a good thing for mind, body and spirit. Jenhawk777, at Mr. Stalkable's invitation, I will indulge relative to what you and I have in common. First is our opinion about Gareth, second is in this diff, and third would be having a granddaughter in college on a scholarship, except mine is first year, and her scholarship is an equestrian scholarship. Within the legal recruiting limits, she was courted by Georgia, Baylor and OSU - she chose OSU because her favorite coach left Baylor and went to OSU this year (and she's closer to home, which is Texas). She really hit her stride in August at the 2020 AQHYA World Championship Show as OSU's incoming freshman. And let's not forget our fourth commonality - we're both WP editors. ^Atsme _Talk 📧 17:08, 9 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Atsme those are great things to have in common! You must be so proud of your grand-daughter! That makes me smile. OSU is a great school--but hard for someone from Texas to support! My husband went to UT for grad school and our only girl-child was born there so--Texas!!--one more thing we have in common! I loved Texas. My middle son went back there to live as an adult, but he moved to Dallas--which is a world of its own--right? What part of the independent country of Texas are you residing in? Before I sign off I want to say thank you for that support: this diff. It meant a lot. You understand why I love Gareth and Grabs so very much. Grabergs in particular stood by me (and even stood up for me occasionally) through some of the really bad stuff. I would do just about anything for either of them. I may have to fly to Sweden one day just to prove it... But I won't go to a Swedish coffee shop... Coffeeshop? Jenhawk777 (talk) 03:00, 10 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Those are several kilometers to the south of Sweden. Any use of cannabis at a Swedish fika will be highly unofficial. I know I've seen a userbox with a "this user has been mentioned in the media" theme, but now I wonder if there is one for "content by this user has been copypasted into external publication". Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 07:49, 10 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I am so pleased that Grabs was able to help you regain your positive fighting attitude. And yes, I had already been over to his camp, so I was up to speed.
Now I just need to add that the coffee served here is Sumatra Mandheling. It is a 100% organic Coffea arabica, dark roast and supplied by my excellent grocer, Mr. Waitrose. I trust that it is to Betty's approval and, of course, to you two. I should add that I always make a strong brew and it is served black. Cheers!
Gareth Griffith-Jones (contribs) (talk) 14:44, 10 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Gareth...I tried really, really hard to drink black coffee but it's a taste some of us softy Americans just can't handle. I'm sure that if I were to ever acquire a taste for black coffee, it would likely be the result of a cup you brewed. I'm the French vanilla or vanilla caramel cream-in-my-coffee type, although I have been known to substitute a big splash of Bailey's from time to time. Jenhawk777 - Just curious...is Abby considering a military career? I commend her courage, and imagine you are a very proud Grandma. ^Atsme _Talk 📧 18:18, 10 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Dear Betty, Your wish is my demand. I have ordered a daily delivery of the finest, fresh Channel Island milk in Wales.
Gareth Griffith-Jones (contribs) (talk) 19:15, 10 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hey guys! I am deeply distressed. I found a second outside WP site that has copied Biblical criticism and I can't find a date for it to prove they copied me. I have asked a couple of computer gurus if they can, so say a prayer! I love coffee but don't drink it black either Betty but today I may be drinking something stronger... Yes, Abby will spend 4-6 years in the Army after graduation, then she can decide if she wants to re-up or not. Every generation of our family has had someone in the military for just over 200 years including George Washington's army at Valley Forge. Same for someone in education--teaching, running a school, etc., and someone in the church--missionaries, preachers, teachers, etc. There are various other aberrations, but those three are consistent. Her dad is in the Army, and her brother is in the Coast Guard, so I am complacent about it. See how confident I sound? I won't worry at all! Jenhawk777 (talk) 17:23, 11 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Dear Jenny, I had read your post @Grabs. How irritating!
Glad to learn more about you. Hope you don't mind my removing your outdenting; I wanted to make it more accessible. All the best!
Gareth Griffith-Jones (contribs) (talk) 17:34, 11 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you Gareth. I do appreciate your support. Indent as you wish, I will follow your lead, as it is, after all, your Talkpage. Jenhawk777 (talk) 17:39, 11 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I prefer to think we share it.
Gareth Griffith-Jones (contribs) (talk) 17:44, 11 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

We are aren't we? Thank you. Jenhawk777 (talk) 17:46, 11 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Glad to see this morning that you have made these posts. The replies there and from talk look promising to me. Do hope you were able to sleep.
Gareth Griffith-Jones (contribs) (talk) 09:47, 12 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

They are not finding anything but in a way, that's a finding I guess. Isn't it awesome that there are people like that here that you can turn to for help? Haven't heard back from Dianna but hopefully I will. I guess I will move on, finish buffing up the article and see what happens. Jenhawk777 (talk) 16:29, 12 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I'm sure you will; after the weekend probably. You have made good contacts. Now you can take a short break—relax with a glass or two of what you like! For me, that's a good Cabernet Sauvignon. Cheers!
Gareth Griffith-Jones (contribs) (talk) 16:51, 12 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

My hero of the day is Jerm. He showed up on Biblical criticism's Talk page voluntarily--without being asked--and found this: "Click here, next to the website link is a grey arrow, click it as it should say "Cached"." Clicking on cached yielded a url I could post with a date! I am so relieved I could cry! Thank you both for all your sympathy and support. I was totally freaked out!! I am a Reisling fan, but really, it's hard to beat a mellow dark beer! Jenhawk777 (talk) 17:08, 12 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

		The Special Barnstar
		Thank you, both for your friendship and support. I don't know where I would be without you. Jenhawk777 (talk) 17:37, 12 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]	Thank you so much. Jenny, you are a remarkable woman and a pleasure to know. Gareth Griffith-Jones (contribs) (talk) 11:24, 13 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I notice that you now have a reply from Diannaa. So that's excellent. To help you relax, try this for size. Have a lovely Sunday! Gareth Griffith-Jones (contribs) (talk) 11:24, 13 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Gareth Griffith-Jones I love old jazz--especially bluesy jazz. The newer discord stuff leaves me cold. I did hear from Dianna and she approved of placing the backwards tag. Thank you for that beautiful video! Jenhawk777 (talk) 18:38, 13 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, and at exactly after 5 minutes play, the vocal begins ... for me, the best bit.
BTW you need never "ping" a user on their Talk.
One little thing less to bother you. You get this:
Alerts — Received when a message is left on your user talk page.
Everything is so tense here right now ... our wretched government is continuing to stumble from fiasco to debacle. There is no chance of removing the prime minister. We are faced with a daunting prospect; putting up with him and his sycophants for the next four years.
Gareth Griffith-Jones (contribs) (talk) 10:46, 14 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Neil always pleases, [4]. I went to two of his concerts back in the 1970s.
Gareth Griffith-Jones (contribs) (talk) 14:07, 14 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I guess that means over-pinging like that is kind of like shouting! Yikes! I am so sorry!!

I don't know if we will be able to get rid of our guy either. I voted 'off-brand' last time because there was no one I felt I could support.

I have been to a couple of Jazz festivals in Muscle Shoals but no concerts--sounds fun tho! We are about to be hit by the next hurricane--say a prayer for everyone in its path. Jenhawk777 (talk) 18:51, 14 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I am a keen watcher of the weather news on the BBC. [5] I would be interested to know if the Helen Willets' video works for you. As Sally would seem to be heading for the Mississippi River Delta, hopefully, you may be saved from the full force.
What a year this has been! And we are only halfway through September; the seasons are all muddled. Do keep safe.
Gareth Griffith-Jones (contribs) (talk) 11:30, 15 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

It is coming right up the Bay and into my lap Gareth! And we are not leaving town. We don't want to go away and come back to a mess--we apparently want to be in the middle of the mess--I don't know! It's superstitious behavior I think--as if our being here will prevent something bad from happening. In case there is no water in the aftermath we have filled the bathtubs for water for flushing and washing. We have batteries and enough food and charcoal for grilling and we have a gas grill outdoors. We have bottled water for drinking. We've been told to have food for 72 hours and we're good I think. If we don't have electricity for long, everything in the freezer will thaw, but we sold our generator and there's nothing we can do but wait and see what happens. I have tall trees all around me, so do say a prayer that if any of them come down, they don't fall on the house. That's the only thing I'm really worried about. Oh, and my dishwasher broke yesterday and all the repair people are smart enough to leave town, so paper plates for a while and hand washing! Isn't life fun! It hits in the morning but the rains start tonight. Keep us in your thoughts and prayers. Jenhawk777 (talk) 16:51, 15 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, I do. Have you overhead power? You must be frightened; the wait must be agonising. I am guessing the video could not be played(?)
Gareth Griffith-Jones (contribs) (talk) 18:06, 15 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, yes it did play, but it has turned and is coming into Mobile Bay now. Jenhawk777 (talk) 18:11, 15 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Mobile is right in the eye of the storm. Flooding is probable. Praying that you and your home will not be damaged.
Gareth Griffith-Jones (contribs) (talk) 17:16, 16 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

All is well. As you can see, electricity has been restored--off since the wee hours and back on just about 12 hours later--pretty good I think since the entire area is out. Tree debris all over the yard but no trees down. Made coffee this morning on the gas grill with a camp percolator. Cowboy coffee! It was great! We are well! Thank you for your prayers and concern! Jenhawk777 (talk) 21:56, 16 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Good to hear! Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 22:09, 16 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

What a relief! I have been so worried about you, especially when I could see Mobile while it was being broadcast live as a main feature on the BBC news.
You can no longer say ... see above your post that is dated: 19:27, 7 September 2020 (UTC) ... you're a virgin. Ah well!
Gareth Griffith-Jones (contribs) (talk)

Ha ha!! You are so right! Not quite a veteran but not inexperienced now either. Don't need any more of these though! I'd rather remain inexperienced at coping with hurricanes. Got a few more out in the Gulf, so we will have to see how the rest of the fall goes. Bless you for caring Gareth, and thank you for the prayers. Jenhawk777 (talk) 16:07, 17 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I am going out of town for a while. I am going up to stay with my 95-year-old mother who is not in good health. I don't know how long I will be--depends upon how she is able to put up with me I guess. I am taking my computer with me so hopefully, I will be able to continue work here and continue keeping in touch. Don't worry if you don't hear from me for a while. Take care of yourself. Jenhawk777 (talk) 08:39, 20 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I got the message but have received no email from you. Just wanted you to know. Jenhawk777 (talk) 05:24, 21 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

How odd. I have sent no message. Is it an automated one from Wikipedia? I did not even switch on my pc yesterday and have hardly used it since the 17th.
Anyway, I kept a copy, so here it is:
Sun, 20 Sep at 12:03 hours Dear Jenny, Thought I'd email rather than write a reply on my WP Talk as it might reach you more reliably. Glad you are visiting and staying with your mother. What a wonderful age. I lost mine when she was my current age (78) and my father when he had just reached 60 (heart attack). How far is it to her? Take lots of care. With love, Gareth
Gareth Griffith-Jones (contribs) (talk) 09:19, September 22, 2020

Take care, Jenhawk. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 09:34, 22 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Gareth, this is your TP and your preference rules, but my indenting was according to WP:INDENT#2. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 09:49, 22 September 2020 (UTC) [reply]

Yes, I am aware of that style, but as you write ... I have the prerogative here to change the copy as it suits me.
Gareth Griffith-Jones (contribs) (talk) 16:04, 22 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

If I decide to take this to Arbcom, I'll let you know. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 16:07, 22 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

[6]16:21, 22 September 2020 (UTC)

Hello! @Gråbergs Gråa Sång: and Gareth, I am back online writing from the center of the country--no beach in sight--and no hurricanes! I love your dry humor Grabergs--which makes me laugh out loud--and makes me want to needle both of you back! I am not as clever as Grabergs so I will just say "it look like things start falling apart as soon as I am gone" and hope that makes you laugh as well. Nothing can come between the three amigos! Not even indenting! We are stronger together than apart! Cliched slogans run amok! Jenhawk777 (talk) 18:24, 23 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

"If nothing else works, a total, pig-headed, refusal to face facts will see us through." -General Melchett. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 09:50, 24 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Great to know all is well with you. Are you averse to answering my questions copied above? I quite understand if you are.
It is almost eight years since Gråbs and I first edited together. A friendship that I value greatly.
Here in the UK, we are more confused than ever before with the coronavirus out of control and a brexit without a deal with the EU. The Chancellor of the Exchequer has just started his statement.
Gareth Griffith-Jones (contribs) (talk) 10:59, 24 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Likewise. Gareth was the first to write something on my TP that was actually friendly, and we both agreed that [7] was pretty damn funny, thus revealing ourselves as people of taste and culture (and of course, we both liked The Godfather). Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 12:23, 24 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I know I am the newcomer to this relationship so I am just glad to be allowed to tag along. Yes of course you are both people of taste and refinement! Why else would I like you so much—and who doesn’t like The Godfather? That would be crazy! I didn’t mean to overlook your question I just have trouble typing much on my phone. It is a 17 hour drive to where my mother lives in a 4000+sq.ft. 4 level house all by herself. At 95. She shouldn’t be living alone but when she leaves this house it will kill her I’m sure. She won’t come live with me and won’t go into care so I make the drive and will stay until she can’t stand having me underfoot any more and then I will go home. I call her every night but if something happens I am a long ways away. It’s frustrating and sad. This blinking house is crammed full and I am going to be left sorting it. Not today though. One day at a time. The west coast is burning, pandemic is killing people and the economy, we are in the middle of an election and Trump is still President and it’s one of the worst hurricane seasons in years. And I am at my mother’s. And there was another backwards copy vio on Biblical criticism yesterday. Life is one challenge after another but with faith, humor, good friends and the occasional glass of good wine it is possible to get through with some small grace. I count you as part of what helps me through. Thank you for being there-here-on WP and for being who you are. You make a difference. Jenhawk777 (talk) 14:20, 24 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The Union will survive even The Donald. And Gareth's Union will likely survive Brexit, but if Wales stays in the EU I'll definitely come and visit. I just noted another backwards-copy template at Talk:Islam, is this a pattern? In defense of the last backwarder, they included "FromWikipedia, thefreeencyclopedia". Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 18:04, 24 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I don't know what will survive. There is no way the world is not a vastly different place after all this. However, being entirely selfish in this, so long as this particular union survives I'm good to go. And you are welcome to visit any time you feel like making a trip to the states. We have guest space, and will take you to eat crawfish so you'll feel at home--I'll watch--or seafood or get a good steak and be thrilled to hang out--after the pandemic of course.

Your backwarder is either slightly more honest --or more stupid--than mine, although AlanM1--who helped me out yet again--did find WP references within the article along with my hatnotes and 'see also' refs! The backwarder didn't bother to change or delete them!

I wish I could do something for Alan for real. He has been such a patient, kind person and genuinely a tremendous help. Every time I start to panic over these he calms everything down and finds what I need and just helps and moves on. He's knowledgable and a truly good person! Sort of like you guys! I wish I had some way to do something in return, for him, but he's so many levels beyond me I can't think of anything he could ever need from me. Glowing recommendations! If he ever runs for anything I can offer those! That's about it though!

You guys keep taking good care of yourselves. The three amigos must go on. [[8]] Jenhawk777 (talk) 21:01, 24 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Jenhawk777: You could write me in for a 4/8-year stint at 1600 Penn (if Il Generalissimo doesn't outlaw elections). —[AlanM1 (talk)]— 23:52, 24 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Ha ha!! I will do that! Might as well. Last time I voted libertarian which is just as much of a throw away vote as voting for someone who isn’t actually running! You’d probably make a great President. That’s the problem though isn’t it? The people who would be great are too smart to want the job. Jenhawk777 (talk) 00:32, 25 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks to you both for your yesterday posts.
I could envisage Scotland applying to rejoin the EU, but as much as I would like it, it is unlikely that Wales can break away from England's stranglehold.
Whew! 17 hours. Surely you split it over two days with an overnight stop?
A big welcome to Alan. I need to know, are you are referring to a dysfunctional family living in the White House or the actual place. Mind you, I had never heard of the series until a moment ago ... care of WP.
Gareth Griffith-Jones (contribs) (talk) 10:29, 25 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The real thing. I don't remember the sitcom either. —[AlanM1 (talk)]— 12:32, 25 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@AlanM1: Okay it's just wrong when someone from Wales knows more about American sitcoms than we do... . Gareth, yes, we split the drive, but we have done it all at once by taking turns every two hours to sleep a little. It makes for a very long day. I'm voting for Alan for President. I wish I had someone else to blame for America right now. The Canadians. Yeah, it's a Canadian conspiracy. We don't know any Canadians, do we? Jenhawk777 (talk) 18:44, 25 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Oh yeah! And welcome to the coffee shop Alan! We sit around and talk about important intellectual topics like sitcoms and movies and Grabergs favorite TV shows. I hope you will become a regular member. Jenhawk777 (talk) 18:47, 25 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

You should check first on how Alan takes his coffee. Most of the Canadians that I have come across are somewhat lacking in humour.
Gareth Griffith-Jones (contribs) (talk) 08:58, 26 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@AlanM1: So what Gareth really wants to know is if you drink coffee and if you take it black. Betty and I wuss out and take cream and sugar--sweetener--no self-respecting woman uses real sugar in this day and age. You are welcome to our koffee klatch Alan--anytime--but don't feel obligated. So, it needs something doesn't it ?Jenhawk777 (talk) 23:09, 26 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Half & half and Splenda, please. How did I get to be Canadian? Not that there's anything wrong with that. Let's skip the infobox. It was just a momentary lapse of reason. —[AlanM1 (talk)]— 00:49, 27 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Ha ha! No, goofy, you are not Canadian! The conspiracy to keep Trump in power is Canadian because surely it must be a conspiracy, right? And who is least likely to be suspected as the conspirators? Canadians of course! No one ever suspects Canadians of anything because they are too polite--and boring! And they secretly hate us! [9] It couldn't possibly be reasonable Americans supporting this ... person. (I am assuming that since you are now running against him--like it or not--that you are not a supporter.) Vote for Alan!! Please don't back out before there's even a debate. I know you'd win! It gives me an alternative--someone I can actually admire.

Splenda and half and half it is! Order up for Alan! Jenhawk777 (talk) 01:52, 27 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hey, Hey! that image of a miserable-looking apology for a white coffee has to go!
I don't remember reading how Gråbs takes his coffee, do you?
As it stands, I am the only one drinking a strong, unsweetened/unadulterated Sumatra Mandheling; a 100% organic Coffea arabica, dark roast and supplied by my excellent grocer, Mr. Waitrose.
Gareth Griffith-Jones (contribs) (talk) 10:22, 27 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

You ah de' man! Jenhawk777 (talk) 16:51, 27 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Then I can only imagine how you'd feel about the venti iced sugar-free vanilla latté I'm getting later when I go out. I do, on occasion, enjoy a hi-end kona or french roast just as it's brewed, but the regular burnt-smelling stuff (esp. SBUX) needs help.

With regard to the userbox, I'm afraid it's probably got to go per WP:UBCR: Wikipedia is not an appropriate place for propaganda, advocacy, or recruitment of any kind, commercial, political, religious, or otherwise, opinion pieces on current affairs or politics, self-promotion, or advertising. I understand it's all in good fun, but the userbox police are on patrol (with some reasonable justification), and I'd hate for our frivolity to turn ugly, as most things in this world tend to do lately. —[AlanM1 (talk)]— 10:21, 28 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@ Alan, Thanks for joining in with the coffee fun. We are all in need of not being (too) serious in these dark days. Just noticed this: Covfefe
my editing
As for the userbox, you have expressed what I thought.
Sorry Jenny, I thought it best to remove it.
Gareth Griffith-Jones (contribs) (talk) 10:01, 29 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

It's okay, I meant well, I didn't mean for it to be a problem. I need that coffee now. Jenhawk777 (talk) 04:13, 30 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

A fresh brew coming up for the lady. Hoping your mother is feeling better. Take care.
Gareth Griffith-Jones (contribs) (talk) 11:37, 30 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Ahhhh! Coffee--or covfefe--or whatever... and good wishes. Just what I needed. Mother is glad I am here. She has myelodysplasia anemia and will not recover. These are her last years, so I am here for as long as I can stay. My poor husband is home all alone. Send a good coffee thought for him especially. Jenhawk777 (talk) 19:48, 30 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

What you are doing is right. You have been fortunate to have had her for so very many years and, by staying with her now at this sad time for you, there will be nothing to regret later. I am sure your husband fully understands; he will appreciate you all the more after your absence.
Gareth Griffith-Jones (contribs) (talk) 17:38, 1 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for those kind words and thoughts Gareth. They mean a lot. Jenhawk777 (talk) 19:08, 1 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Good to see that you have not stopped editing in spite of all that's happening around you. All the best!
Gareth Griffith-Jones (contribs) (talk) 13:30, 7 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Bless you my friend. I knew I would be here awhile so I packed up my computer and brought it with me. She naps in the afternoon and I have time to hang out and write a little then. It's good for me to have this available. I am probably going to do this on and off from now on. I'll come here for a month and go home for a month and so on. This first time I'll stay for 6 weeks, then go home for my anniversary and Thanksgiving, then come back for a bit. I'll decide later what to do about Christmas. I am trying to be sure she eats, I am doing what I can to clean up a little, I sit and listen a lot, I try not to rise to the bait if you know what I mean. I walk every night and try to stay grounded. So far I am okay. My family and friends, including you of course, have all been very supportive. She's my mother. For better and worse. It isn't just obligation, I love her, and this is the person I decided to be long ago, so it's about me as much as it's about her. I'm glad I am able to be here. God is with me. Love makes us strong. Thank you for being my friend. Jenhawk777 (talk) 22:13, 8 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I am home! I am home! Praise God halleluja and whoopee! She doesn't want me back till January. She has an aversion-aversion conflict: she doesn't like people in her house not doing everything her way from how you throw out the trash to how you wipe your hands after washing them! But she has an aversion to being alone now that she is in ill health as well. She put up with me for a month, but I knew it wouldn't last. So I am home and won't go back till after the holidays. I will be tehre if and when she decides she needs me again, but until then, I'm home!! YAY! Jenhawk777 (talk) 19:48, 31 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Being home safe and sound sounds good to me! Now you/we have the outcome of who will be your next president. Such fun!
Gareth Griffith-Jones (contribs) (talk) 13:08, 3 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I am about to go vote now. The outcome may be up in the air for awhile. We'll see. I am not a Trump supporter - as you know - but I know that if his followers lose, they will go home quietly and grumble and that will be it. If the libs lose, there will be riots and people setting fire to things I'm afraid. Either way, the people lose. My country is going to Hell Gareth. Thank God for WP! Jenhawk777 (talk) 18:59, 3 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I hate to put you on the spot but I am in real need. I put Biblical criticism up for FA review a month ago. It is its second time being nominated. I failed to complete the process the first time because of leaving WP so suddenly, and now it is getting little response. I am putting out a call to everyone I know because the coordinator has said if it doesn't get more interest he will archive it. It needs a source review - someone willing to randomly check sources to be sure they actually say what the text says. There are too many for anyone to do alone, but doing any at all, even just one, would be deeply appreciated. Post it here. If it fails again I'm afraid that will be the end of it. Please help if you can. Jenhawk777 (talk) 19:28, 14 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Jenny,
Please explain, Post it here. We cannot edit an archive, can we? You must help me to understand the procedure before I attempt to do what you want.
Gareth Griffith-Jones (contribs) (talk) 14:02, 15 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

You are not the only person to be confused by the title of that page but I assure you it is the active editing page. You just go there and edit source as normal, start a section with "equal signs-edits by Gareth-equal signs" and post whatever you have found. I will read it, fix any problems and come back and say when that's done, then you can strike through or do whatever you want to indicate it's been taken care of - or hasn't. A source review is a random check to ensure that what is claimed in the text is in the source. That requires actually going to the text and reading, so it's a tedious and time-consuming task in an obscure subject that many can't tell, even after they read, what it's about. You can do one source or as many as you can stand. In an FA, a reviewer can just do as much or as little as they please. It's a lot to ask but I am shamelessly asking everyone! The FA will close if this doesn't happen soon and BC is an important article that should be among WP's best. Jenhawk777 (talk) 16:25, 15 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Dear one, some others have shown up, so if you feel this is not your cup of tea - or coffee - or anything else, it's perfectly okay. I am trying to hold it together and be less invested in the outcome. Succeeding every now and then! Keep me in your thoughts. Jenhawk777 (talk) 07:46, 16 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Always.
I understand now, but please don't hold your breath!
Gareth Griffith-Jones (contribs) (talk) 14:09, 16 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

		The Friendship Barnstar
		Your understanding and support has no doubt tried you from time to time, but it has made all the difference to me. Thank you. Jenhawk777 (talk) 23:51, 12 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Always good to feel appreciated. Thank you. It is a pleasure to know you. WP can be infuriating at times, but it is worth sticking when there are genuine users like you for me to mix with.
Take care.
Gareth Griffith-Jones (contribs) (talk) 14:00, 13 December 2020 (UTC) Postscript: Phew. "adored" I like the sound of that.[reply]

Amen brother. WP is indeed an infuriating place and what I need to learn to do all of the time instead of just some of the time is to just walk on past that and not respond. I thought I was doing well, then I fell into responding when I shouldn't have and now I'm sorry for it. I was respectful, but I shouldn't have said anything at all. I'm an idiot sometimes. It made me appreciate the people who put up with me, so I came to say thank you. Nothing like a good grovel in the mud to make you appreciate those who don't. :-) Jenhawk777 (talk) 20:54, 13 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Take a complete break! I mean absolutely complete. Do not login to WP during what remains of December. You are too valuable to lose. Come back refreshed when it feels ameliorated, not before.
Take care.
Gareth Griffith-Jones (contribs) (talk) 11:33, 14 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

You are the first this year. Many thanks for this splendid greeting, good friend.
Gareth Griffith-Jones (contribs) (talk) 19:36, 22 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

How could it be anything but splendid? Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 19:38, 22 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Gareth - wishing you all the very seasonal best, and hope things are good down your way. Some days there are more magpies than starlings, but all are a welcome sight. Would like just a little snow, though... T. Tony Holkham (Talk) 23:07, 23 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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