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@BGerdemann (WMF), already completed! Cavarrone 03:39, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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 Hi, @Cavarrone, can not change things as you did in Istituto Luce? This counts as vandalism and can lead into problems such as edit warring. Thank you! Have a nice rest of your Thanksgiving weekend. 157.23.249.80 (talk) 23:58, 29 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

You did a wonderful job on the Gianni Morandi page.
Today I made some changes. JacktheBrown (talk) 18:31, 3 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry for the complaint, but I personally believe your close of conventional weapon is a WP:BADNAC. The administrator who relisted the AfD previously correctly noted there were no policy based arguments. There still aren't. AfD is WP:NOTAVOTE and it would likely have been relisted a 2nd time were a typical admin to look at it because all the keep arguments so far are essentially just votes with some extra claims. I would like to request that you reverse the close, thank you. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 06:29, 13 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, I am not sure which point of WP:BADNAC my closure would fall under. And how is AirshipJungleman29's comment not policy-based? I have no horse in this race and I am strongly against non-admins closing contentious AfDs, but in this case I frankly just see a deletion proposal that clearly failed to gain any traction. I am surprised of the complain and don't see how an extra week could overturn the situation and result in a deletion, but as you feel I didn't read consensus correctly I am undoing my close and let others decide. Cavarrone 07:49, 13 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I'm the first one to withdraw my AfD if I truly feel that it failed. If obvious sources get pointed out, I "know when to fold 'em", so to speak. But I do not believe this is one of those times. Therefore I feel it falls under WP:NACPIT #2, where it says "Contrary to popular belief, especially among newer editors, discussions are not a vote. Editors who close discussions use rough consensus to determine the outcome. The process of rough consensus requires administrators to occasionally ignore opinions (sometimes called !votes) because they are against policy". In this instance I am still waiting for a policy based rationale besides "duh! Lots of people use the words 'conventional weapon' in a sentence!" AirshipJungleman's comment is a strawman that refutes one of my claims without refuting overall non-notability. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 08:21, 13 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Apparently I was not that wrong, after all. Cavarrone 15:36, 13 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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