I mean, people might think you were some kind of crazy person! Hope you had a good Christmas and NY. Thought I'd bring the following rather fun RfA to your attention: ProtectionBot. As implied by the title this is to be Wiki's first AdminBot. Amusing opposes based on robots taking over the world aside, one of the big stumbling blocks is the refusal to release the code as it might fall into the hands of Vandals who could design some horrific VandalBot vs. Wiki's general policy of releasing such things. Thought the debate might be of interest to you- net security and all... 17:50, 8 January 2007 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by WJBscribe (talk • contribs) 2007-01-08 09:50:04
Thanks for the notice. I actioned that, then was gonna reverse myself after seeing new data, but it'd all become moot by then :Z
I removed your strikethrough of an IP's vote at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Sexy Losers. You're wrong, IP's do count, especially if they give a valid keep rationale. In any case, this is not your decision to make; the closing admin will weigh everything, and you certainly don't need to remind the admin how to weigh an IP's contribution. The only sensible thing to add can be an {{spa}} template sometimes, but if an IP has a long editing history here and no significant history of vandalism, then they are absolutely welcome to participate in AFD. Please do not tell them that they can't, this is against the spirit of WP:BITE. Thanks in advance, — coelacantalk — 22:27, 25 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I just wonder what you expect to accomplish. You're an experienced enough user to know it's not a vote, and also to know that a "keep" or "delete" without any rationale basically weighs for nothing, whether it's an unregistered IP or an admin. It just seems you're bringing an unnecessarily contentious tone to the AFD, and I'm not the only one to voice that concern. — coelacantalk — 06:28, 26 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Anyway, sorry for being a jerk about this. I still want to communicate the spirit of what I've said, but I really think I came off too strongly. Have some salted popcorn with my comments. — coelacantalk — 06:45, 26 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Righto. Thanks for your replies. For what it's worth, your tone did not give me any indication of grumpiness or anything like that. I thought you were quite cordial. But... =) maybe I'm just desensitized from the venom I receive here (and decorate my user page with). I won myself a Penny Arcade reference last night: User talk:CyberAnth/Deletion Talk#Take a look at this! Later, — coelacantalk — 07:23, 26 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for your support. I've actioned this. —Adrian~enwiki (talk) 2007-01-31 08:06Z
Closing AfDs
Non-administrators may not close AfDs unless before the five day mark unless it is a painfully obvious snow-ball clause-type situation. Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ebony Anpu does not yet meet that standard. Additionally, your use of rollback-type tools in reverting your inappropriate close without comment was in itself inappropriate. Please be more careful and courteous when dealing with other folks. --Jeffrey O. Gustafson - Shazaam! - <*>10:16, 12 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Additionally, your warnings to users 80.154.39.13 and 80.154.33.243 were very inappropriate, and I have deleted them. To warn a user for 3RR when you yourself have made the improper reversions (without comment) displays a lack of appreciation of proper process. Again, please be more careful. --Jeffrey O. Gustafson - Shazaam! - <*>10:22, 12 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Your actions in support of an out-of-process AfD are themselves out-of-process. No action you have taken here is supported by policy.
Additionally, your deletion of qualified warnings to a user clearly involved in gaming the system is not appropriate. Please take more time to consider your actions in the future.
I'm confident you mean well, but you're simply not correct on a number of levels, and are oddly passionate about it, to the point of lacking a NPOV. You need to recuse yourself from this issue until it can be properly arbitrated.
I am surprised by the fact that you have reverted Adrian's actions. Surely the proper approach for disputing an AfD close (even by a non-admin) is WP:DRV. Whether or not he was right to be bold here can be addressed there. WjBscribe10:28, 12 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
This AfD was not disputed by any member of the Wikipedia community, nor could it be disputed, since it was not valid to begin with. —Adrian~enwiki (talk) 2007-02-12 10:41Z
By the way I should say I don't entirely agree with your close (though my reasons have nothing to do whether you're an admin or not). WP:AFD does not say IPs are forbidden to nominate articles for deletion(or that they 'lack standing'), it says: "Note that if you are editing under an IP address because you have not yet created a user account, you will not be able to complete the AfD process, as anonymous contributors are currently unable to create new pages ". Once the AfD page is created, there is nothing to stop IPs from contributing and if properly expressed their views should be as valid as anyone else's. So I don't think all delete !votes are by IPs is a valid close rationale. The opinion: "You can't write an article based on a bunch of self-published fan sites. Once you remove the unreliables sources, your simply won't have enough verifiable information to establish notablility. Come back after somebody has written a biography of the fellow. This is an encyclopedia, not a fan page." seems to be more than a vote and takes account of the relevant policies, although the user may be incorrect. WjBscribe11:22, 12 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for having the kindness to be candid about your opinion. I still believe I acted appropriately -- if an anonymous editor nominated an article with a well-reasoned rationale, I wouldn't close it out-of-hand. However, in the face of multiple anons with a suspicious familiarity in re. Wikipedia, the decision is clear to me, though I respect your opinion.
I think you acted appropriately as well - especially in hindsight considering the AfD was started by an open-proxy IP editor who was vote-stacking with other open-proxy IP's and made reference to being Choronzon. Based on some inside information, I am 99% sure the open proxy editor is a user who was banned for running multiple socks. Also, there is quite a precedent set for non-admins closing AfD's [1] - there needs to be a clarification on policy one way or another.- WeniWidiWiki06:12, 13 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Ebony Anpu AfD
Hello. You recently commented and/or voted on the AfD for the Ebony Anpu article here. FYI, the AfD has been reset because the discussion was not about the merits of the article, but instead about procedural issues. You are welcome to leave a new comment about whether or not the article should be included here, at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ebony Anpu. In order to be as fair as possible to the article's creators and those who feel it should be deleted, all comments about Wikipedia deletion procedure as it relates to this specific AfD are being directed to the AfD's talk page, here. Thanks for your time, and sorry for the wikispam. --Jeffrey O. Gustafson - Shazaam! - <*>18:03, 13 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for your understanding! :) —Adrian~enwiki (talk) 2007-02-20 00:02Z
AfD Ebony Anpu
Hi there, some time ago you commented on AfD Ebony Anpu. I have opened a DRV on the page because of strange admin behavior. Any input would be appreciated.
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Proxy block
Hi, you've blocked 80.42.49.227(talk· contribs · deleted contribs ·filter log·WHOIS·RDNS·RBLs·http· block user ·block log) as a suspected open proxy. The other day I had to have an autoblock lifted as a result of this. As far as I understand the term, the IP address in question is not an open proxy. As WHOIS makes clear, the IP address belongs to "Tiscali UK Limited" (A UK home internet provider) and as such will be used by a sizeable number of UK contributors. An indef block of this account (from which there have only been 2 instances of vandalism) seems counterproductive in that it prevents quite a lot of UK internet users from modifying Wikipedia. Could you reconsider the indef block of this IP? WjBscribe 15:54, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
Remember that open proxies can also exist as a result of user configurations, not just ISP configurations. For example, if a person who uses Tor uses his home IP as a Tor proxy, in effect, it will be an open proxy. The reason why the block was put in place in the first place was that an anonymous IP-hopping vandal used it. I'll lift it, but please send something to the ISP to ask them to track the situation. --Nlu (talk) 17:08, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
Actually, I see that Persian Poet Gal (talk· contribs) had already configured to allow registered users to edit. With that being the case, I don't think a modification is necessary. Again, I'd appreciate it if you contact the ISP. If they'll do something about it I'll consider lifting it. --Nlu (talk) 17:09, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
I'm not sure I understand enough about open proxies to send something to the ISP that would be coherent, and definitely not to answer any questions they might ask in response, sorry. WjBscribe 17:14, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
Just wanted to know if indef blocking IP accounts on this basis is supported by policy. I confess I know little about open proxies so wanted to defer to someone with expertise in the matter, especially when I saw Nlu wasn't on the verified user list. Cheers, WjBscribe17:30, 23 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
80.42.49.227 is verifiably a home dynamic DSL IP, and not currently running an open proxy as of Fri Feb 23 16:59:31 EST 2007. Based on the foregoing, and the stated block terms of "(anon. only, account creation blocked, noautoblock) with an expiry time of indefinite (suspected open proxy but registered/logged in users are allowed to edit)", this block should be lifted.
My reading of policy infers that proxy blocks are for the life of the proxy, regardless of the type of system in question. When it ceases to be a proxy, it should cease to be blocked. For practical purposes, blocks are against IP's rather than against specific machines, so when a machine gets a new IP, the previously blocked IP is de facto no longer an open proxy.
The metapolicy on open proxies affirms this reading, stating: "Non-static IPs or hosts that are otherwise not permanent proxies typically warrant blocking for a shorter period of time, as the IP is likely to be transferred, the open proxy is likely to be closed, or the IP is likely to be re-assigned dynamically."
dhcpd defaults the lease length for a given IP to one day. Many DSL and cable providers use "sticky" dhcp, which means that clients will continue to receive the same IP when they renew under many but not all circumstances.
An informed blocking policy would then be for a length of at least one day but no more than seven days. Ultimately, when blocking a nominally dynamic IP, the blocking admin should take responsibility for ensuring that the benefit to the project outweighs potential harm, and for re-checking (or having re-checked) the proxy status of the IP if the block is for any substantial ( > 3 days ) length of time.
If you search my talk archives, you'll find that none of the issues raised by the guideline apply to my particular .sig. In summary, it's protected, and never changes, so it constitutes no drain on resources.
Thank you for your interest in maintaining a more efficient Wikipedia :)
The guideline is very clear (you rarely see use of the word "forbidden" anywhere here). Just quickly though, your statement above is inaccurate re the concerns raised in the guideline - WP:SIG states:
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Transclusions of templates and parser functions in signatures (like those which appear as User:Name/sig, for example) are forbidden, because the developers have determined them to be an unnecessary drain on the servers. Transcluded signatures require extra processing--whenever you change your signature source, all talk pages you have posted on must be re-cached. (emphasis mine)
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As such regardless of whether its "protected" or not, you are still able to change the source exactly in the way described. I believe our software actually substs any templates so I assume you're not using the traditional ~~~~ - but if you don't intend on changing the source perhaps you'd consider doing so or perhaps subst'ing it? Just a thought :) Glen11:39, 27 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Again, I appreciate your efficiency in researching this matter, but that's quite simply addressed by the fact that I haven't changed my .sig in over a year, and should I ever find a need to (unlikely), I'll just create a new template and increment by one.
What's more harmful to the project, IMHO, is HTML sprawl over talk pages, polluting our pristine pages during editing, and forcing me to dig through tags to find text ;>
I took this up with the guy who did the code to hypothetically prevent unsubst'ed .sig's once, and apart from general annoyance at me, he pointed out no significant downsides to my particular implementation.
I've always taken "forbidden" to be a typo in most instances, usually accidentally inserted in the stead of "discouraged", and felt it would be rude to complain.
Still, you are quite correct in noting that an unprotected, routinely-changed .sig would be unjustified and inappropriate.
It says in the trivia section that you hacked NBC in 12 minutes. Was it a thorough, superuser breach? Did it even happen? What exploit (if it's already fixed) was it? Just consulting the primary source. {Slash-|-Talk}07:29, 2 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
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Goodness
Goodness, now there's a name I haven't seen in years. The last time I did was kind of a mess, as I recall. Toss me an email if you like. Philippe00:54, 11 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Well that just made my day! I have a question. Were you ever into the open-source software movement? It doesn't say anything on your wiki article. Warrush13:24, 22 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Jessie Davis
hey thanks for letting me know. i didnt realize I added my statement twice. Should I delete it, or leave it there? BigCoop01:48, 25 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Ok Thanks! I think I had them Delete my other account. My other account was Mcoop06. i think they removed it already. BigCoop04:25, 25 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
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Here's a weird one for you
Hi, I was clearing out the CSD backlog and came across the Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Log/2006 March 7 listed as a an attack page. The only thing I could find was that you included {{t1|db-attack}} in your comment. Thowing "nowiki" tags around it seems to have cured the problem, but I'm not sure why it took over a year to show up. I check the speedy backlog almost every day and had not seen it there before. Anyway I thought you might like the heads up. Dsmdgold03:26, 16 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
And I can't believe I forgot to sign my post. Anyway, I'll email you but I'm slightly uncomfortable with the idea of my email address being forever indelled into the Wiki page history. Adrian Lamo, the man you hacked New York Times - is it even safe to email you? Haha. x~ZytheTalk to me!21:49, 21 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
interrogatory
Hello Mr. Lamo,
I do apoligise for the listing of your article under our project scope. A quick review of the page history was unable to determine who had placed the marker there. I do thank you for bringing the issue and your article to my attention. Thank you for your service brother, and I'm not talking about your service to wikipedia ;)
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I apologise, I have a habit of doing maint and never going back to fix the problems I flag. I am working on this, and to be honest I am not sure why I didn't do it the first time. Only problem I've got is that I don't know the source, but I will try and Tineye them. Didn't mean to annoy my favourite grey hat - you and YTC are probably the first things that got me into the nerd life. But yeah, I've not checked the images, if you've not already sorted them out I'll do the FURs now. Cheers for letting me know, — neuro(talk)10:44, 19 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
If I recall correctly, it is because if you are leaving it a lot there is a significant addition to the job queue. I recall a user getting told to take it down by an admin a while back, but I can't remember who the user or who the admin was, I'll try to find out. I guess my reasons for thinking of it as a policy rather than just a request is the way it is phrased - 'do not' as opposed to 'please do not'. I suppose the problem here is that if everyone transcluded their signatures, the job queue would go to hell and back. — neuro(talk)06:12, 20 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Adrian~enwiki, here's hoping you're having a wonderful Christmas, and here's also hoping that all your family and friends are well. Lets all hope that the year coming will be a good one! If we've had disputes in the past, I hold no grudges, especially at such a time as this. If you don't know I am, I apologise, feel free to remove this from your page. Come and say hi, I won't bite, I swear! It could even be good for me, you know - I'm feeling a little down at the moment with all of these snowmen giving me the cold shoulder :( — neur ho ho ho(talk)00:00, 25 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Happy New Year!
Happy New Year!
Hey there, Adrian~enwiki! Happy new Gregorian year. All the best for the new year, both towards you and your family and friends too. I know that I am the only person lonely enough to be running this thing as the new year is ushered in, but meh, what are you going to do. I like to keep my templated messages in a satisfactorily melancholy tone. ;)
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Do not edit war with me over this. Neither of those images are justified- yes, the interview was important, but what it looked like was not- showing a picture simply does not add significantly to reader understanding. As for the xkcd panel, until there is a mention of it in the article you can't even begin to justify it's use. Non-free content should be used as a last restort, not slapped into the article as decoration. J Milburn (talk) 21:20, 10 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
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I used to respect you. You cannot justify your trampling of the concepts of free speech and transparency. 62.2.134.218 (talk) 13:54, 23 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Your respect, like your belief that justification is called for, are irrelevant.
Free speech has nothing to do with proliferating classified data to the enemy. And quite frankly, Citizen :AnonymousIP, when it comes to transparency, there are things you are not entitled to know, for good reason.
I do not expect that you will understand this. But I do thank you for your input, and hope that life
will never take you down a path that would allow you to understand this.
Hello I am new in wikipedia and interesting in LGBT related topics too. Recently i added new article called <The flavor of corn>. Its about nice Italian LGBT related film created at 1986. But my article was declined becouse of abcent of external links. To my opinion this is not fair, becouse I mentioned the page from IMD. Please help me to approve this article and make it better. Thanks in advance. The link of article is http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_creation/The_Flavor_of_Corn— Preceding unsigned comment added by 46.70.13.169 (talk) 11:38, 18 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
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