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Is togepi really a baby pokémon? Is there any official statement claiming so? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 201.37.27.106 (talk • contribs) 16:27, 18 July 2006

I think so; it is only obtainable from an egg, and cannot be caught in the wild. However, since Togetic hasn't appeared in the games as a wild Pokémon, we may not know until we see a wild Togepi or Togetic. It should also be worth noting that I might be wrong in that you can catch Wynaut in the wild... OH, as I was writing this, I looked at some Pokémon card images, and according to the cards, Togepi is basic, and Togetic is Stage 1. Can anyone confirm these things with Nintendo or something? DanPMK 04:43, 22 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Manaphy is only obtainable from an egg too, is it a baby Pokémon? {unsigned2|14:44, 13 August 2006|201.17.71.19}

See: Talk:List of Pokémon by stage DanPMK 22:21, 13 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Well, it seems that the entire concept of naming them "Baby", "Basic", "Stage 1", and "Stage 2" is derived from the playing cards, which seem to be the only media to refer to Pokémon stages by those names. Togepi's card refers to it as Basic (and Togetic is Stage 1), so why don't we stick with that? --Brandon Dilbeck 18:21, 7 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

We have a very long discussion about this on Talk:List of Pokémon by stage, so see that... DanPMK 22:15, 7 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I've had two Togepi cards and the one I used to have was 'Basic' but the one I have at the moment is 'Baby'. Confusing isn't even the word when it comes to pocket onsters, I swear. 80.41.122.6 18:40, 19 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Pokemon cards should not be taken in to account when deciding if a pokemon is basic or baby, it is very clear that Topepi is a baby pokemon seeing how it is not a legendary pokemon but it can not breed when is the same for all baby stage pokemon, and Togetic its evolution can breed which is the same for all the other other evolutions of baby pokmemon. DSDark 21:38, 13 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

In the game there are only two classes of Pokemon that can not breed and they are Legendary and BABY and if you try to breed DSDark 22:10, 13 March 2007 (UTC)Togepi or any other baby pokemon you will find that they do not breed no matter what pokemon you try to breed them with. DSDark 21:43, 13 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

No, in the games, every Poke is divided into one or two egg groups. All Legendaries, Nidorina, Nidoqueen, and Baby Pokes fall under the "None" category, DS. Inability to breed does not a Baby Poke make, especially since Nidoqueen is in that egg group, and Legendaries (Short Manaphy) are also sterile. -Jeske ^{(v^_^v)} 21:50, 13 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

But it has all the features of a baby pokemon. DSDark 22:10, 13 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Which are, videogame-wise, what? -Jeske ^{(v^_^v)} 22:13, 13 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Yes if you look at say Pichu and compart it to Togepi it has some of the same characteristics such as weight and hight and moves, as in learning mostly "Special" Class moves. Do you think that Togepi is a Basic. DSDark 22:29, 13 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Moves, not necessarily (so does Hoppip). Height and weight, however, makes Diglett, Eevee, and Natu Babies by definition. -Jeske ^{(v^_^v)} 22:32, 13 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Okay but in the defense of Nido's both of the Nidoran's can breed and yes there evolutions can't but there first forms can unlike Togepi which is the first form. DSDark 22:35, 13 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Actually, DS, Nidorino and Nidoking CAN breed. -Jeske ^{(v^_^v)} 13:29, 14 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Bear in mind that this was the subject of several rollercoaster discussions at WP:PCP beforehand, discussions that didn't seem to have universally accepted solutions; here was the first big one and here was the second big one. It's almost as if this is an unsolvable problem, looking at these discussions. :/ Erik Jensen ^{(Appreciate|Laugh At)} 20:49, 14 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The upshot of the debate was to just not mention the stage at all, given the lack of commentary in reliable sources. The stages are only ever specifically defined in the card game, anyway. - A Man In Bl♟ck (conspire | past ops) 21:59, 14 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

that is untrue look at pokemon-games.com's pokedex and when you click on a pokemon they state its stage and its evolutions stages and Togepi is a baby. DSDark 19:23, 16 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Togepi's missing those sections and I'd really like to see one of them added, if not both. I'll try and start it but I doubt I can finish it on my own. --Floramage! 19:46, 10 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I've noticed an image (referred to as a "pet image") repeatedly added and removed from the article over the course of the day. Personally, I don't care much for that picture, but you know what picture I think we really need? We need a picture of Togepi being cradled in Misty's arms. Togepi was so significant for always being on screen with Misty; Togepi, during its run in the cartoon, was on-screen as much as Pikachu. --Brandon Dilbeck 22:01, 10 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The first thing I noticed with this article is that there is no section about the biological characteristics of Togepi. Another point I want to ask about is whether Misty's Togepi exhibits typical behavior. That is, Misty's Togepi acts like a baby all the time. Are there any sources to demonstrate that this is or isn't typical of all Togepi? --Brandon Dilbeck 00:42, 7 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I really want to edit the article and add information on Togepi's weight, call etc. and some trivia, but I can't find my Pokemon book and I haven't got Togepi on the game, either. My computer seems to go funny if I go on anything other than Wikipedia or if I leave it alone for 2 seconds to do some research... Can someone add it, please. 80.41.122.6 18:43, 19 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

"Biological Characteristics" is for the video games ONLY. The anime is not covered in that. -Jeske ^{(v^_^v)} 19:06, 19 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

There is official confirmation that Togepi is a baby pokemon, go on to Pokemon-games.com and click on the Pokedex and go down to togepi and it says Baby: Togepi Basic: Togetic. DSDark 19:21, 16 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

How come i can't change Togepi's stage to baby when editing the page? DSDark 19:34, 16 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for pointing that out, it might be very useful information! The reason that Baby isn't showing up in Togepi's infobox is because that parameter of the infobox for ALL of the Pokémon's infoboxes is turned off (mainly because of the debate of what Togepi's stage is!). I'm going to bring this up at the Pokémon Collaborative Project to see what others think. --Brandon Dilbeck 21:21, 16 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]