Talk:The Dragon Prince
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Viren seeks to become Lord Protector, not regent. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:8805:A180:4A60:6DEC:21B1:59D2:45AC (talk) 14:50, 15 September 2018 (UTC)
- That does change later in the show. 2001:44B8:6117:B100:DC04:977E:DEC2:FC9A (talk) 09:12, 1 December 2019 (UTC)
Episodes article
I have merged the episodes and series overview tables back into this article. There is not enough content to split, per User:Bignole/Episode page and WP:SIZESPLIT. -- /Alex/21 14:15, 19 February 2019 (UTC)
Do we have more representitive reviews?
The reviews listed under reception seem to be based off the first few episodes and the critiques listed dont really match up to the actual show. Egrariously, the article that complains about the accent which talks of "Americans doing a scottish accent" appears to be unaware that the voice actor IS scottish, the end result being either a) the author doesnt know what a scottish accent sounds like, or less pleasantly b) the author has a racist disposition towards less common accents. I'm going to be charitable and lean towards a. Whatever he case , its a bad review. Regardless, critics are entitled to unpleasant opinions, so the real issue its a review of the first three episodes. There must be better critical accounts that have reflect the critical consensus of the WHOLE thing (Remember, Netflix drops entire seasons in one hit. Good reviews presumably reflect this) whilst avoiding fawning, or in this case, irrational critiques. 2001:44B8:6117:B100:DC04:977E:DEC2:FC9A (talk) 09:08, 1 December 2019 (UTC)
- Agreed, this article needs more representative reviews of the entire show, be it of later seasons or even full reviews of the first season. And yes, I don't know why that article is quoted the most out of all the cited reviews. It almost seems like while the writer likes the show and the characters, her hate for Rayla's voice actress is personal. Not to mention that it seems unfair to criticize the scarcity of female characters when the first season gave us Rayla, Opeli, Aunt Amaya, and Ellis--of which the reviewer seems to have only met the first. --172.242.232.216 (talk) 01:36, 4 January 2020 (UTC)
Accusations
Accusations
Trying to reach a consensus about how to report them. Basically, I propose that we specifically report what is given in the reference. Being more vague than what is provided in the reference could be misleading.
- Ajd recently said my edit erred by "cited source doesn't say "stereotypical female work" specifically so we shouldn't be that specific without a source that backs that up clearly". I agree with this critique. Should we say he was accused of leaving his children with female employees without permission, as described by the reference, instead?
- The text currently reads "several female former employees of Riot Games and Wonderstorm accused Ehasz of treating women disrespectfully. I don't see accusations by multiple people of treating badly women specifically in the reference, but if they are present in the reference than this language is appropriate. Keep in mind that in the United States, where the show is produced, workplace bullying is widespread [1], so a pattern of inappropriate behavior from a manager doesn't necessarily mean a disadvantaged group is being targeted. Pretzel butterfly (talk) 18:27, 15 April 2020 (UTC)
Main characters/Rayla and sexism
I previously edited something that was reverted and I'm editing it out again. It was under the main characters heading description of Rayla: "In the course of the series, she and Callum start a romantic relationship." I removed this sentence previously for two reasons - it happens during the middle of season 3, which many would consider a spoiler (not as attached to that reasoning).
But I am more annoyed with the fact that their relationship is listed only under Rayla. It is sexism to only mention romantic relationships for women, as if that were their value and contribution to the show. Either the exact same sentence should be added to Callum's description, or it should be in neither description.
Female characters are not present solely to be the romantic interests of the male characters, even if they are in a romantic relationship it should not be a defining characteristic of the woman, unless it is also considered a defining characteristic of the man. Go read media and gender to understand. Sapphiremind (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 11:45, 26 July 2020 (UTC)
- Spoilers are a given in an encyclopedia article about a series. As for sexism, that's a fairly bold (and, in my opinion, baseless) accusation, but maybe. There are any number of reasons someone may have chosen to list it under one character and not the other (not least of which being the primary POV of the show) that don't involve a need for gender studies. Please read WP:GOODFAITH for more infomation on collaborative editing. 2600:8800:2382:E200:C096:AFC6:EFB6:3279 (talk) 16:56, 10 January 2022 (UTC)
Consistent short-full naming
There must be some consistency in naming. Either we include the full name (i.e. in parentheses) or we not. I think we should. It's a small detail that does not encumber the entry. אילן שמעוני (talk) 10:46, 20 October 2020 (UTC)
The Dragon Prince vs. House of the Dragon
To start, this series has been one of my immediate favorites from episode 1. I've been constantly and rather obsessively checking news for developments of Season 4 through Google. On several attempts of late, Google searches pulled up results for House of the Dragon, which is completely unrelated to The Dragon Prince despite similarities in the titles. Still, this made me wonder if these two shows are often mistaken for one another. If so, there should be a Template:Distinguish hatnote for this article and its counterpart. Until there is a consensus, I won't add the hatnote right away. Nebulous2357 (talk) 05:37, 12 September 2022 (UTC)
Notable?
To be honest, I had never heard of this cartoon. Nor have I ever seen it advertised; nor have I seen any buzz on it in the internet fora that I frequent. My children have also never heard of it, nor have a few neighbours I queried in passing. This seems very peculiar. I myself only came across ‘’The Dragon Prince’’ now, here on Wikipedia while trying to research the voice actors in the Fallout series of video games. I understand streaming services do not release Nielsen-style ratings, and I hope everyone will forgive an indelicate question. Does anybody watch this, does it have an audience? Again begging the forgiveness of other editors, it really seems like the answer is no. Even in terms of online footprint—fan fiction and so on—this cartoon is next to non-existent, as compared to popular series. Therefore I must (with apologies) ask: is this cartoon notable enough for inclusion in Wikipedia? Again, I apologize for any ruffled feathers from possible fans; and, I do not wish to enter a debate about the exact meaning of WP:NOTABILITY. It’s just that from all possible metrics, this cartoon doesn’t even exist. Similar to how an overseas shell company, when you look at it, sometimes does not even exist. I would like to nominate it for deletion on these grounds, but I will wait for feedback here for some time (weeks?) beforehand, in case there is some plausible reason of which I am simply ignorant that this cartoon is notable. 2406:3003:2001:2853:C486:C32A:B785:9BFA (talk) 23:39, 25 February 2024 (UTC)
- I do hope this isn't a serious post. If Wikipedia relied solely on what a single user already had prior knowledge of it would be practically empty. A simple Google search or even looking at the article's citations should answer all your questions about if a series that's on its fifth season has an audience. Cheezknight (talk) 22:17, 28 February 2024 (UTC)
- He's serious about it! Objections? 69.113.233.201 (talk) 03:54, 2 May 2024 (UTC)
- Agreed, the notability of something is a Complex topic… but why does an article exists for many small towns? Are they more notable than a tv series that in 4 days has received nearly 7000 visits. Aside from that, the many sources indicate a certain level of notability. Legendarycool (talk) 23:47, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
Season 6
To ensure the best overview is given mention any points that could be added but you aren’t certain if they should for a consensus to agree with. Legendarycool (talk) 06:55, 27 July 2024 (UTC)
- Somehow mention ‘Sol Regems’ death Legendarycool (talk) 02:16, 28 July 2024 (UTC)
- Hey. Sol Regem's death confuses me as well. Both the closed captions and Aaravos' words imply that he simply chokes to death but he does clearly goes to breathe fire but dies before he can, meaning it could have just burned him up. But it also could be that when Sun Dragons die their corpses burn away or something as his entire body does catch alight immediately, but there's nothing suggesting that as fact. We can leave the plot as it is for now. Thanks for pointing this out. Cheezknight (talk) 00:47, 29 July 2024 (UTC)
- Ok after reviewing the scene a few times with subtitles I think he dies from choking on Pharos but before he dies he attempts to breath fire at Aaravos’s apparition so I will change it to follow closer and I don’t think the corpses burn themselves in sun dragons as his mate was buried alive which wouldn’t make sense if they automatically burned themselves. I will make slight changes to fit closer to what the closed captions seem to insinuate as well as the visuals and dialog. Legendarycool (talk) 03:39, 29 July 2024 (UTC)
- Hey. Sol Regem's death confuses me as well. Both the closed captions and Aaravos' words imply that he simply chokes to death but he does clearly goes to breathe fire but dies before he can, meaning it could have just burned him up. But it also could be that when Sun Dragons die their corpses burn away or something as his entire body does catch alight immediately, but there's nothing suggesting that as fact. We can leave the plot as it is for now. Thanks for pointing this out. Cheezknight (talk) 00:47, 29 July 2024 (UTC)