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Direct government don't actually intervene in military engagements I just want to check and see if we agree why are we adding the Governmenent of Sudan and Government of Peace and Unity to military battles. Governments don't intervene in war their army does SDUpdates32349 (talk) 10:50, 1 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I think this is bit special case, as its a civil war with two governments, more like Libyan civil war (2014–2020) FuzzyMagma (talk) 16:58, 5 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

This is a good point. It is done. Donenne (talk) 07:49, 28 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I saw news[1] that South Sudan launched strikes against the Nuer White Army, which is an ally of the SPLM-IO. According to the "Faytuks Network"[2], South Sudan declared war on the group which I have seen some people claim as South Sudan effectively joining the war. Combined with the fighting between South Sudan and the RSF, and assuming this reporting is accurate, would this constitute expanding the map to include South Sudan and add them as a belligerent in the infobox? Sir Ross ★▀▀ (talk) 13:08, 20 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I understood the first part but lost me when you made a link between the RSF and South Sudan. Nuer White Army is a South Sudanese militia and not in Sudan. FuzzyMagma (talk) 17:03, 20 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I may be getting mixed up (mostly because reporting on African wars is not as robust and clear as elsewhere). But I have seen occasional reports of South Sudan working with RSF in some instances, fighting with them in other instances, and I recently saw something that made it seem like the Nuer White Army had some sort of relation with Sudan. I am unfamiliar with the nuances of the war but I made this topic because I have been seeing a lot of groups mentioned in the Portal:Current Events and on war update YouTube channels that mention groups that aren't listed in the infobox like the SPLM-IO and such. Sir Ross ★▀▀ (talk) 13:21, 21 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

You can definitely add this information to the section about foreign involvement FuzzyMagma (talk) 14:12, 21 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

But we do not list support groups in the infobox, see Template talk:Infobox military conflict#RfC on "supported by" being used with the belligerent parameter FuzzyMagma (talk) 14:14, 21 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@FuzzyMagma the page is becoming exceptionally too long. At this rate, the foreign involvement section will become an A-Z soup enticing editors to dump all kinds of foreign intervention (however benign), not to mention recent edits by a new editor that appear to compromise the quality of the article. Borgenland (talk) 16:15, 1 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I can see that but WP:overtagging and not being constructive (or providing solutions or a discussion) about what need to be done, makes tagging useless; hence why I removed.

If it was you who did the tagging please put it back and give us and idea about what you think need to be trimmed, or we can discuss which part to make a separate article. But tagging and praying someone will fix it is not useful FuzzyMagma (talk) 16:37, 1 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

See latest edits. I would like to inform you that I had also tried to have the article protected from a suspected vandal but got rejected as it was not seen as serious a few days ago. Borgenland (talk) 16:46, 1 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry to hear that. I will keep an eye out. With Khartoum liberation, the war became major news for a moment and I think this is why you saw these editors. Give it couple of week and they will disappear. FuzzyMagma (talk) 16:48, 1 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I shorten some of the sections, not sure which points does address in your tag, but see below and remove the tags as appropriate

• too long: We are now below what is considered long
• undue weight: shorten most of sections. let me know if there still more.
• bare URLs: I did not see any

FuzzyMagma (talk) 18:09, 2 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I’m on mobile right now so I couldn’t do major edits or read extensively, but generally I’m satisfied with weight reduction. Borgenland (talk) 05:27, 3 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Just got back on desktop, there's a missing ref at #315 which I couldn't identify as it apparently has been there for a long time. Also, should X and My Maps sources be removed? Some of them were inserted and reinserted multiple times by our common friend with all the barnstars. Borgenland (talk) 15:47, 3 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Throwing shades lol

self published sources are ok if they are used to relay information directly from a source although it’s always better to avoid them. So if there is an alternative it’s better to remove them. My Maps need to be removed. Let me dig to 315 maybe I can find a source for the information. Or better yet, let me handle the sources situation and you can continue copy editing FuzzyMagma (talk) 16:24, 3 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not really sure as to whether the editor in question is a newbie suffering from WP:CIR or just WP:NOTHERE, so in an act of WP:AGF I am just describing them as that. As to your suggestion, I support your latest sentence. Borgenland (talk) 16:26, 3 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Remoed twitter and fixed Ref 315 (now 313). Left My Map as it was requested in this discussion Talk:Battle of Khartoum (2023–2025)#Map inaccuracies.

As for our friend, I do not see how WP:NOTHERE would apply and I did not see any elements of WP:CIR (English is good, uses reliable sources, communicates and willing to listen), but I tend to think they are just enthusiastic .. do not bite. FuzzyMagma (talk) 19:11, 3 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Going off of the precedent of articles like Foreign involvement in the Syrian civil war, Foreign involvement in the Yemeni civil war (2014–present), Foreign involvement in the Myanmar civil war (2021–present), and Foreign involvement in the Russian invasion of Ukraine, should the foreign involvement be spun off into a Foreign involvement in the Sudanese civil war (2023-present)? Sir Ross ★▀▀ (talk) 15:40, 3 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Given the sheer size of it I do believe it does, particularly the UAE. Borgenland (talk) 15:45, 3 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

sensible idea. Copy the text from this version (which I trimmed down), and once you're done, feel free to trim the text here. FuzzyMagma (talk) 18:54, 3 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I tried putting it in the article but it got removed immediately 108.210.109.207 (talk) 23:16, 3 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Have you even read the hatnote??? Borgenland (talk) 00:49, 4 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]