Talk:Storm King Highway
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To anyone considering creating a map: This is not the full Route 218 (read the text). Look at the NRHP nom for an exact map you can use to duplicate it. (After this, let me know and the map can be put in a special version of the NRHP infobox). Daniel Case (talk) 13:49, 4 October 2008 (UTC)
- Am going to add a bit about occassional road closings and one motorist fatality from a snow avalanche in March 1993.Calamitybrook (talk) 01:34, 24 November 2008 (UTC)
- Most of which is already in the article, with a source, twice. Daniel Case (talk) 04:08, 24 November 2008 (UTC)
- Ah yes, I see it now. Sorry. Following principle of grouping like ideas together in writing, the fatality perhaps ought to be grouped with facts about occassional road closings.
- In that regard, I may play with editing at some point. Also, am sorry to say I'm not quite up to doing the preferred method of citations....The method I've used is of course barely adequate, but does include interesting court documents.
- I've long been interested that forty miles from NYC there are fatalities (or one anyway) from snow avalances. I wonder if any others have occurred in the Hudson Highlands. I made a cursory check on Web regarding Anthony's Nose road -- is that 9E?? as I believe I may have observed avalanche debris there.
- That's called the Bear Mountain Highway, to be the subject of a future article when I get the picture processed. It's US 6/202 (NY 9D, which you're probably thinking of, begins just north of the northern end of the BMH.
- I've long been interested that forty miles from NYC there are fatalities (or one anyway) from snow avalances. I wonder if any others have occurred in the Hudson Highlands. I made a cursory check on Web regarding Anthony's Nose road -- is that 9E?? as I believe I may have observed avalanche debris there.
- I didn't find anything but I strongly suspect that snow avalanches, if not fatalities, affect that highway also.
Calamitybrook (talk) 04:36, 24 November 2008 (UTC)
- In the interest of keeping similar ideas together, a non-controversial practice in basic writing, I fixed the article a bit regarding road closings and the fatality. Unless a "bot" can fix the reference numbering scheme, this will be addressed a bit later.
Calamitybrook (talk) 05:22, 24 November 2008 (UTC)
- I probably should get all that together. I think the death should go in the "history" section. I have it in the road that it gets closed in bad weather because that's an ongoing thing. And it's in the intro because, well, the intro's job is to summarize the article. Daniel Case (talk) 06:37, 24 November 2008 (UTC)
- If nothing else the road closing information should include the few additional words about nature of hazards. As it previously stood, avalanche hazard wasn't clear. I'm sure it's not often a hazard, but it's existence helps illustrate the remarkable nature of this highway and helpful to understand why it is sometimes closed.
- Obviously, the avalanche fatality is an incident that occurred in the past, and is therefore "history" in a chronological sense. But so far as I know, is signficant in terms of the highway's peculiar hazards rather than its cultural history, which by the way I think is very nicely done in this article. Calamitybrook (talk) 07:38, 24 November 2008 (UTC)
A proposal
I would strongly suggest that a merge of this article to NY 218 be considered; the entire history of the Storm King Highway also applies to NY 218. At the very least, a good deal of the history needs to be copied over to or summarized in NY 218, since the history section of NY 218's article is woefully lacking. – TMF 23:28, 12 July 2009 (UTC)
The latter has been my intent. I do feel that the road's existence prior to NY 218 being designated and its listing on the NRHP justifies a separate article on this stretch. Daniel Case (talk) 03:08, 13 July 2009 (UTC)
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