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Talk:Raška (region)

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This is information from the article: Between the 15th and 18th centuries, the term Raška (Latin: Rascia, Hungarian: Ráczság) was also used to designate some southern regions of the Pannonian Plain, inhabited by migrating Serbs, who settled there during the late Middle Ages and the Ottoman period. During that time, Serbs were still referred to as Rasciani or Raci (Hungarian: Rácok), and those terms became common Hungarian designations for the Serbs.
And this is information from the source: "The town of Ras and the territory of its bishopric was the first larger administrative unit seized by the Serbs from Byzantium. Serb rulers made it their seat, which is why Latin texts began to refer to them as the Rasciani and their state as Rascia. The Hungarians, and through them the Germans, used this name up until the nineteenth and twentieth centuries.... This name appeared in their title along with the name Serbian land, and it was also used by Latin authors, while the Byzantines continued using the name Serbia".
  • Where in the source write: "was also used to designate some southern regions of the Pannonian Plain, inhabited by migrating Serbs", "who settled there during the late Middle Ages and the Ottoman period", During that time, "Serbs were still referred to as Rasciani or Raci Rácok, and those terms became common Hungarian designations for the Serbs"? Mikola22 (talk) 15:02, 19 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
So there is information in sources but you decided to delete it and call it WP:OR not very cooperative. Again you can ping User Sorabino and work together Theonewithreason (talk) 19 December 2020 (UTC)
@Theonewithreason: Where is information, what you are talking about? Quote me that information. Mikola22 (talk) 15:49, 19 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
It appears you don't understand what I wanted to say. No matter others do. Theonewithreason (talk) 19 December 2020 (UTC)
The Hungarians, and through them the Germans, used this name up until the nineteenth and twentieth centuries was used a source for a narrative which is not even implied by the author.--Maleschreiber (talk) 16:53, 19 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
As far that I can see author uses this quote in the book and he doesn't disagrees with it.Theonewithreason (talk) 19 December 2020 (UTC)
And what this quote has to do with whole information from the article? Use this information and other information's which does not exist in the source are OR. Mikola22 (talk) 17:19, 19 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
The article is about Raska, the source speaks about Raska and Rascians and further explains the usage of the word and its meaning and it goes perfectly with the context of the text. So it cannot be an OR.Theonewithreason (talk) 19 December 2020 (UTC)

Raška =/= Serbia before mid-12th century

There's common misconception and misunderstanding of historical sources, sometimes also found in reliable sources (like Fine 1991), that the historical region of Ras(cia) is the same as historical early medieval Serbia. That's not the case, and confusion is due to the 14th century Chronicle of the Priest of Duklja which anachronistically calls the Principality of Serbia and Grand Principality of Serbia as Raška (becuase by the time of writing of the Chronicle the capital of the Serbian Principality and Kingdom was in Ras). Many articles are mislinked to this article instead of to Grand Principality of Serbia. Miki Filigranski (talk) 16:06, 9 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Quelle: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Ra%C5%A1ka_(region)