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Talk:Protestantism

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Denomination?

Before December the opening sentence began "Protestantism is the second-largest form of Christianity". This was changed to "Protestantism is a denomination". I believe that this substantial change - which I strongly oppose - ought to be discussed first. Further on the lead talks of "denominational families" and later in the article the term denomination is applied to smaller religious bodies. The section § Denominations clearly specifies multiple denominations within Protestantism. The article linked to in the first sentence, List of Christian denominations by number of members, talks of multiple "Protestantism denominations"; to describe Protestantism as a denomination in the opening sentence would create a confusing discrepancy. Moreover, sources within the article which use varying terminology to describe Protestantism, such as "movement" and "form". Evidently it's not sensible to describe Protestantism as a single denomination. Let's discuss this before any changes are made. --Hazhk (talk) 18:02, 16 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I agree — I changed the order of the paragraphs in the lead so that the first paragraph says what Protestantism is instead of how big it is — I didn't add or remove any content - Epinoia (talk) 18:46, 16 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@Epinoia: I have undone your edit. Admittedly, I reverted before I saw your reply here. I agree with you in principle that the first paragraph should "say what Protestantism is". That is why Protestant theology and practices – the five solae, opposition to papal supremacy, church polity, etc. – should be discussed in the opening sentence. Perhaps the first sentence, "...is the second-largest form of Christianity (after Catholicism) with a total of 800 million to 1 billion adherents worldwide or about 37% of all Christians", should be moved to the last paragraph? Certainly I think it's important to keep the remainder of the first paragraph where it is.--Hazhk (talk) 20:37, 16 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Tied movements?

I don't understand what is meant at the bottom by "Tied movements". Can we have some clarification there? -- Doctorx0079 (talk) 22:24, 29 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

What is it????

???? 2001:8003:8803:C100:82:C4F8:D7F5:968E (talk) 18:55, 15 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Are asking what is Protestantism? Is the article unclear? Ltwin (talk) 20:21, 15 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Unitarianism

At present we have "Unitarianism is sometimes considered Protestant due to its origins in the Reformation and strong cooperation with other Protestants since the 16th century." The source for this sentence is https://www.bbc.co.uk/religion/religions/unitarianism/ataglance/glance.shtml The BBC's page "Unitarianism at a glance" states that "Unitarianism grew out of the Protestant Reformation of the 16th century" but gives no additional information as regards the relationship between Unitarianism and Protestantism. In particular it does not indicate that "Unitarianism is sometimes considered Protestant." If we are going to state this then we need WP:RS support and it would be better to indicate who thinks that Unitarianism is a form of Protestantism, if indeed any authority does. Greenshed (talk) 15:25, 8 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Unclear Pronoun Reference

In section "Main principles - Scripture alone" the sentence "Methodists and Anglicans differ from Lutherans and the Reformed on this doctrine as they teach prima scriptura [...]" has an unclear pronoun reference ("they" could refer to either). AdditionIV (talk) 12:30, 3 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

denomination

compare and contract the beliefs and practies of the catholic, protesants and the anabaptists Neby01 (talk) 16:20, 14 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Historical chart of branches of protestantism

There should be second line going from Pentecostalism to Baptists as the founders of Church of Christ in God and the Assemblies were Baptist pastors and churchgoers. Rhaetianlombard (talk) 22:59, 21 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Why is Protestantism considered Christian

It is not my citation is ruling by the council of Trent it is on the same level as Gnosticism 24.214.62.93 (talk) 03:30, 16 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia attempts to be neutral in its presentation. It's not surprising that the Catholic Church considers Protestants not to be Christian, just as there are some Protestants who don't consider the Catholic Church to be Christian. Most reliable sources consider both to be Christian, so that's what Wikipedia goes with. Indyguy (talk) 04:51, 16 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Okay what is the definition of Christianity?
You are going to say something favoring Protestants. 24.214.14.183 (talk) 12:30, 27 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Wikipedia does not decide what is and isn't Christianity. We rely on what reliable, published sources say. Reliable sources, even those written by Catholics, identify Protestantism as a form of Christianity. The Catholic Encyclopedia states at the conclusion of the article "Protestantism": "Protestantism claims roundly 100 millions of Christians". Ltwin (talk) 18:42, 27 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Reliable sources like the church fathers support Catholic theology are they not reliable sources now? The church fathers were writing for the Catholic Church. 24.214.14.183 (talk) 16:07, 1 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  1. Wikipedia is not a Catholic publication. We don't assume a Catholic perspective on who is and isn't a Christian. Wikipedia maintains a neutral point of view (see WP:NPOV), giving due weight to the views found in reliable sources.
  2. The Church Fathers would not be good sources for expressing a "Catholic" perspective because they are primary sources that are interpreted in different ways by different Christian churches. Even if they addressed Protestantism specifically (which they don't), they still require interpretation. Wikipedia editors do not provide our own interpretation of primary sources. Editors rely on what reliable secondary sources say about primary sources (see WP: Primary). Ltwin (talk) 17:24, 1 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    When have i assumed or stated Wikipedia to be a Catholic publication? When did I say only church fathers i said like them to mean influential theologians. 24.214.14.183 (talk) 03:01, 4 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Quelle: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Protestantism