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Abundance of translations in intro
There must be a way to cut down on translations. On a modern 720p display, it’s not until at least the third line onscreen that anything is actually said about the subject at hand. Cup o’ Java ( talk • edits ) 04:10, 22 July 2018 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cup o' Java (talk • contribs) [reply]
"Greece and the Balkans"
The following message was left on my talk page after I reverted the removal of Greece from the lead sentence. I'm copying it here to reply, since it's a question about the content of this article that others may wish to comment on:
A question of redundancy
Hello,
I see you've recently reverted this edit by me: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Meze&oldid=prev&diff=902389676
In trying to verify your commit message, I've not been able to find the text you're implying exists (one that lists both the Balkans and Greece in the definition).
Be that as it may, I'm not sure your revert reason would apply here. My thought process is that since Greece is part of the Balkans, listing both is plain redundant, even if a source text does so. I had made a similar change earlier on the presumably less politically loaded article about Ben Nevis, here: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Ben_Nevis&diff=prev&oldid=703291283
Do you think that should be reverted too?
I apologize if this message seems too forward; I tried a web search on this before messaging you, but couldn't find any relevant policies, so it just seemed to me you were the person to ask.
Daclyff, thanks for your message. The text I was referring to in the edit summary is the very next sentence in the article: ...meze is often served as a part of multi-course meals, while in Greece and the Balkans they function more as snacks while drinking or talking. It's for internal consistency in the article - whichever meaning of the word Balkans is used, it should at least be consistent. You say since Greece is part of the Balkans, but, unlike the common knowledge that Scotland is in the British Isles, there is widespread variation in whether the term "the Balkans" is meant as including Greece or not, depending on who is speaking and in what context. See the entry at Encyclopedia Britannica for example. A Google search for the term "Greece and the Balkans" gives over a million results, so it's not at all an unusual or fringe idea or usage. Since the article has been written consistently from that perspective - see also the "Common dishes" section - I don't see the value or need in removing Greece from the lead sentence. If you truly feel that it's too "politically loaded", and contravenes WP:NPOV, I suppose you could try rewriting the article to consistently use different terminology, but again I don't really see a pressing need for that. I hope that answers your question. --IamNotU (talk) 14:30, 4 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Verification of work
Unless using citations please do not simply add and remove entries in the same edit with minimal summaries. It is not reasonably possible to verify anything under an edit summary of Editting the list,
If removing entries give a reason for so doing. If adding entries please ensure they have wikilinks. Try to assist in enabling to DB:V. If there is not OBVIOUS reason specifically why an entry is removed then it is unexplained removal of content. Thankyou. Djm-leighpark (talk) 22:25, 2 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]