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I believe the article should have a sidebar, infobox, taxobox, or whatever they are called---like along the bottom of the page---showing what era or age in history came immediately before and immediately after the "Age of Revolution". Also, I was wondering: why not also include the several attempted revolutions that occurred in Europe during the 1840s? Shanoman (talk) 19:20, 2 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I've got a couple of thoughts on this topic. The A of R is generally considered a Western phenomenon, so I'm not sure talking about Asia really fits. Particularly given that, as indicated, governmental changes in Asia during the period were less about revolution and more about globalization and Western intervention. Perhaps the Asian topics should have their own page, but I don't know what that would be. It just feels like a round peg in a square hole here.

Along the same lines, I'm not sure about the need to have a preceding and following historical era. There aren't any eras that flow naturally in and out of those dates (1775-1848), as even pre-modern and modern European history divide at the French Revolution (1789) in most things I've read. I don't know that saying the A of R was followed by "contemporary history" adds much meaning, as that latter category is so vague. Maybe the A of R should be viewed as a subtopic of European Expansion/Colonization that lasted from 1492 through the 1960s. Under that broader umbrella, it would be easier to talk about everything from the Boxer Rebellion to the Vietnam War, as well as India and parts of Africa that tossed off colonialism in the 20th century.

Last thought--the Texas Revolution (1836) should be considered a candidate for inclusion in the article, but I'll let some non-Texans weigh in on that. Mkeyworth (talk) 19:39, 19 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I'll concede that Age of Revolution is definitely a more Western period, and the material you mentioned was work I wrote that technically bordered on original research. I've removed the irrelevant material (as well as *most* of the preceding/succeeding material) and it should not be returned unless a verified source that declares the material appropriate is found. I really had just been trying to fit (or I suppose force) this period into a larger periodization frame, and that was foolish of me. Thank you for stopping me from going through with that (even though it took so long for me to rectify this). — InvaderCito (talk) 04:31, 18 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

This article needs some critical expansion. I have started the process by adding a few of the key revolutions. The text in some sections are copies from the main article. I will edit and enhance each section going forward. I intend on getting into far more detail.

• Background (Enlightenment, Roots of the Industrial Revolution, etc.) What else should I add here?
• American Revolution (what caused it, the war itself, its impact)
• French Revolution (What caused it, the war itself, its impact)
• Haitian revolution (add a bit about slave rebellions breaking out all over, the details of teh Haitian revolt, its effects)
• Spanish American wars of independence
• Revolutions of 1830 (Need to add this section)
• Texas Revolution (needs to be added somewhere, not sure of an independent section or part of the Spanish American revolutions)
• Effects

Need to add tons of citations and references.

I welcome all input, suggestions, etc. PurpleMonarch (talk) 04:42, 25 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Wasn't the Russian revolution an extension of the age of revolutions as it spread eastward? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:640:4080:5960:A111:989E:DAC2:6183 (talk) 17:37, 13 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

What about Poland's struggles for independence? Besides the 1830 Uprising, there were plenty of revolutionary events in the 1790s. You might also make reference to the Decembrists in Russia (1825). — Preceding unsigned comment added by 204.167.92.26 (talk) 18:59, 1 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

The article Atlantic Revolutions should be merged into this one. It is almost the same thing, perhaps just a variation of the name. T8612 (talk) 19:03, 25 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@T8612 Sorry if this ping bothers you, but your request for merging the articles have been reponed at the bottom of this talk page. I suggest you should check it out. Rager7 (talk) 02:23, 24 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I removed the pictures of the Irish and Haitian rebels for these reasons: Of all the hundreds of pics existing for those revolutions, we should not choose the ones depicting the rebels as murderers of helpless women and children. Furthermore, for the "Haiti Revolution" pic, I couldn't find any source searching with Google. After writing my first edit summary, I saw there is indeed a source given on Commons, but that source is an obscure website, not an academic one. So, we don't even know whether the picture wants to depict the Haitian Revolution or - maybe - a scene from Star Wars. --Rsk6400 (talk) 12:12, 8 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I will find other pics. I just thought you were wanting to remove them without good reason. Sorry. 2601:940:C000:4CD0:A53C:7B77:8081:5CBA (talk) 00:17, 10 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Just reading through this, these two sections are just written kinda poor and just don't flow or sound very good ie

"It was also a question of numbers. The population of nobles versus that of the rest of France wildly disparate: nobles = .4-1.5% out of total population of ca. 28 million. "

and

"Part of this ambition was to enter a political scene that was always locked behind a door to which only the monarchy, clergy, and nobility had the keys."

Both sections probably need to be rewritten, but also they could just be deleted? I don't think they add alot to the article, and the section links to the French Revolution anyway.

Just a thought 203.15.37.218 (talk) 03:40, 26 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I question the premise of the article on the Haitian Revolution that it ended slavery in 1803. Slavery was ended in 1794 by a decree of the French government and was never reinstated. Those who say that the French attempted to reinstate it in 1802 when Leclerc brought a French Army there are completely wrong and need to go back to make sure they have grasped the facts. 174.58.100.83 (talk) 11:52, 5 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Here's a letter authored by Leclerc on 6 August 1802, addressed directly to Napoleon:

Oh dear! Remsense诉 12:22, 5 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Building off the original merge discussion, no sources have been provided to establish that "Atlantic Revolutions" constitutes a distinct period or concept separate from the broader "Age of Revolution" term. While some sources I found on Google Books and Google Scholar explicitly outline the years they think encompass the Atlantic Revolutions, these dates vary (the selection of 1838 in the Wiki article seems to be unsourced an arbitrary), and more importantly, none of them clearly indicate that the term refers to a distinct phenomenon apart from the Age of Revolutions. On the contrary, they all appear to use the term synonymously with the Age of Revolution.

Addressing concerns raised in the previous discussion at Talk:Atlantic Revolutions#Merge to Age of Revolution, I'd argue that the overall meaning the choice of wording while poor, is still irrelevant in terms of its use case, with "Atlantic Revolutions" seemingly only being used as a synonym for "Age of Revolutions" in sources I've seen. As its sourced uses is largely synonymous/an alternate term for Age of Revolution, it should simply be a redirect for that term (instead of this current arrangement of the Atlantic Revolution article just being a trimmed down redundancy of this article). Leventio (talk) 07:14, 23 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Well since the original comment occurred 5 years ago. This merge is unnecessary as while both occurred around the similar timeframe. Age of Revolution refers to the revolutions worldwide while the Atlantic Revolutions only refers to the North American continent. While both articles reference the American Revolution as the starting point for both events. To merge them would be misleading and confusing to some readers. Rager7 (talk) 01:44, 24 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Rager7: Just need to point out, the Atlantic Revolutions (as commonly used in WP:RS) is not exclusively a term that applies to North American revolutions. Its use in nearly all reliable sources on Search and Scholars use the term to cover conflicts in both Europe and the Americas. The Atlantic in Atlantic Revolutions refers to the Atlantic World, which includes regions in the Americas, Europe, and Africa... Hell, the Atlantic Revolutions article as it stands currently also reflects the wider Atlanti World scope..., which goes back to my original point that we basically have two redundant articles with Age of Revolution and Atlantic Revolutions.

While its fair to point out that the Atlantic Revolutions has a narrower geographical scope, excluding far Eastern Europe and Australian revolutions discussd in the Age of Revolutions, I would contend that not every slightly differing near-synonymous term warrants its own article as Wikipedia is not Wiktionary. Both "Atlantic Revolutions" and "Age of Revolutions" fundamentally discuss the same periodization in question, somewhat related revolutions from the late 18th to mid-19th centuries. The use of Atlantic Revolutions in nearly all reliable sources I've looked up on Google Scholars and Search shows its near synonymous use with Age of Revolutions, with the only slight distinction being the potential exclusion of non-Atlantic World revolutions.

Citing WP:OTHERNAMES, the minor contextual difference concerning the use of which term should simply be noted in the Age of Revolution article, and for Atlantic Revolutions to simply be a redirect to Age of Revolutions (either the article in its entirity, or redirect to the section explaining in the article the contextual use of different nomenclatures for said periodization).

In saying all that, as it stands now, we essentially have two articles that basically regurgitate the same information (basically a list of conflicts), with no differing information in either (just additional), let alone any sentence that would give the reader any idea on why the two terms are different to begin with (which there isn't much). Leventio (talk) 02:09, 24 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Leventio I understand that you want to merge them due both articles giving similar information, but my above reply was my reasoning for opposing said merge. Rager7 (talk) 02:21, 24 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Rager7: Yes, I am proposing a merge to prevent redundancy. Age of Revolutions would remain, with an added sentence providing the differing context and use for the nomenclature used (ie. Atlantic Revolutions) for what is basically the same historical periodization. Atlantic Revolutions in turn would become a redirect to either the article section explaining the contextual nomenclature, or this article in its entirity.

My reply above is my contention for your reasoning, as well as clarifying what the Atlantic Revolutions actually encompasses and my rationale for the merge. Leventio (talk) 02:25, 24 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Leventio Thanks for clarifying, I suggest we need more consensus before fully merging the two articles. Rager7 (talk) 02:31, 24 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Support. In its present state, Atlantic Revolutions is just a synonym of the Age of Revolution, which is the most common name. The phrase "Atlantic Revolution" was coined by Jacques Godechot, a French historian who—in the context of the Cold War—wanted to highlight the connection between the American and French revolutions, something which owed him the enmity of Marxist historians at the time (he was accused of receiving NATO and CIA money). The founding article is: (with Robert Roswell Palmer) "Le problème de l’Atlantique du XVIIIième au XXième siècle", Comitato internazionale di scienze storiche, Congresso internazionale di Scienze storiche, Roma 4–11 Settembre 1955, Relazioni 5 (Storia contemporanea), Florence, 1955, pp. 175–239. This article is hard to find, but Godechot and Palmer wrote other books on the concept, eg. Godechot, France and the Atlantic revolution of the eighteenth century, 1770-1799 (1965). I also think this historiographical concept and controversy would be better placed in the Age of Revolution article, or Historiography of the French Revolution, where there is already a section on Palmer's works. T8612 (talk) 14:43, 24 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]