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1488 → 1488 (year) – Most common use these days is the white separatist slogan, so 1488 should redirect to Fourteen Words and 1488 (year) should be the new destination of the year's page. 67.209.130.93 (talk) 07:28, 28 December 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. – robertsky (talk) 04:34, 4 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• Support AD 1488 per WP:YEARDAB, the year has 1,215 views but Fourteen Words has 34,854[[1]] and most Google results are for Fourteen Words. However I'd say disambiguation might be best as the year is probably primary by long-term significance. Crouch, Swale (talk) 18:32, 28 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Oppose per long-term significance. Srnec (talk) 01:22, 1 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
• Oppose. It is true that 1488 gets many more views than surrounding years other than 1492, so most of those readers probably do want Fourteen Words, but Fourteen Words would never actually be titled "1488" and WP:PRIMARYREDIRECTs should be reserved for rare cases; this case doesn't rise to that level in my opinion. The existing hatnote seems sufficient; a dab page would not add anything to that. Station1 (talk) 07:13, 4 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

  Per WP:PRIMARYREDIRECT the bar is explicitly exactly the same for a redirect v a non-redirect (the title) "The fact that an article has a different title is not a factor in determining whether a topic is primary". Crouch, Swale (talk) 23:23, 4 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

  The examples in that guideline are cases like Einstein, Danzig and ovens. Those are legitimate uses of a primaryredirect because the articles they point to could easily have those titles. I don't think Fourteen Points could reasonably be titled "1488", even if some people clearly search for it using that term, while the year clearly must be titled "1488", with or without disambiguation. That's the difference in my mind -- one article should not hog two titles unless clearly of benefit to a substantial number of readers. This is not a clear-cut case, though. I can see the argument for a primaryredirect, but not for a dab page, which benefits neither those looking for the year nor those looking for the slogans. Station1 (talk) 09:04, 5 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]