Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2025 February 9
This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on February 9, 2025.
Immune complex deposition
- Immune complex deposition → Type III hypersensitivity (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: //delete ]
Immune complex deposition is a feature of many autoimmune conditions. I would suggest DAB or retarget to Immune complex. Significa liberdade (she/her) (talk) 06:08, 27 January 2025 (UTC)
- Well, yeah it's a feature of many autoimmune conditions - and all of them are at least partially Type III hypersensitivities, are they not? Per statpearls: The principle feature that separates type III reactions from other hypersensitivity reactions is that in type III reactions, the antigen-antibody complexes are pre-formed in the circulation before their deposition in tissues. Just-a-can-of-beans (talk) 15:12, 27 January 2025 (UTC)
- To be more specific, the immune complex deposition is why they are partially or completely Type III. Just-a-can-of-beans (talk) 15:14, 27 January 2025 (UTC)
- Thanks for the explanation, Just-a-can-of-beans! This isn't in my area of expertise, so I'm not going to comment further. However, I have posted about this redirect at WP:MED. Significa liberdade (she/her) (talk) 00:38, 28 January 2025 (UTC)
- While ICD is often seen in Type 3 hypersensitivity, currently we have more information on the topic in the page Immune complex. Unless Type III hypersensitivity is expanded to include more information about ICD, currently Immune complex seems like a more appropriate target since it gives more information abbout ICD. IntentionallyDense (Contribs) 23:51, 28 January 2025 (UTC)
- Or maybe we should turn it into a separate article? WhatamIdoing (talk) 01:18, 29 January 2025 (UTC)
- From a student/learning perspective, this is what I was hoping to find, and I was simply surprised to see no page or redirect when I searched it. I do like the idea of a separate page for it, if others feel it is distinct enough to warrant one. Just-a-can-of-beans (talk) 01:28, 29 January 2025 (UTC)
- I encourage you to make the article. Heres some sources I found to start you out: [1][2][3][4][5][6][7][8][9] IntentionallyDense (Contribs) 01:44, 29 January 2025 (UTC)
- I'd be happy to take up the challenge. Thank you for hunting down some sources, will save me a lot of time :) Just-a-can-of-beans (talk) 04:31, 29 January 2025 (UTC)
- I encourage you to make the article. Heres some sources I found to start you out: [1][2][3][4][5][6][7][8][9] IntentionallyDense (Contribs) 01:44, 29 January 2025 (UTC)
- This is always the best case scenario and I hope to see it as it's own article one day. By my limited reseach it does seem to meet WP:GNG. Hopefully it can be turned into an article. IntentionallyDense (Contribs) 01:30, 29 January 2025 (UTC)
- From a student/learning perspective, this is what I was hoping to find, and I was simply surprised to see no page or redirect when I searched it. I do like the idea of a separate page for it, if others feel it is distinct enough to warrant one. Just-a-can-of-beans (talk) 01:28, 29 January 2025 (UTC)
- Or maybe we should turn it into a separate article? WhatamIdoing (talk) 01:18, 29 January 2025 (UTC)
- To be more specific, the immune complex deposition is why they are partially or completely Type III. Just-a-can-of-beans (talk) 15:14, 27 January 2025 (UTC)
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Relisting comment: Alright, we think this could be a standalone, but since there's no article here yet, do we retarget?
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Disney Channel (TV channel in Asia)
- Disney Channel (TV channel in Asia) → Disney Channel (Southeast Asian TV channel) (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: //delete ]
No opinion on this, just listing it for discussion. Intrisit (talk) 18:44, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
Default to keep unless the nominator or anyone else can explain why the status quo should change. Steel1943 (talk) 21:24, 5 January 2025 (UTC)- An actual opinion on this redirect has been voiced, so striking out my comment. Steel1943 (talk) 19:29, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
- Delete as ambiguous. There appear to be several Disney Channels currently or formerly operated in Asia. - Presidentman talk · contribs (Talkback) 04:24, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
- Delete per Presidentman. This was an {{R from move}} but was at the title for less than a week in 2021. Jay 💬 16:04, 13 January 2025 (UTC)
- The reason I didn't find it comparable to the other redirect with the "Asian TV channel" disambiguator is because the "TV channel in Asia" is poor wording for a disambiguator. Of the several disambiguated titles of Disney channels, this is the only one in the format of "TV channel in X" format, not to mention the duplication of "channel" in the title. Jay 💬 06:06, 19 January 2025 (UTC)
- Retarget to Disney Channel (disambiguation) to match the emerging consensus at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2025 January 16#Disney Channel (Asian TV channel). -- Tavix (talk) 00:41, 19 January 2025 (UTC)
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- If this is kept, it should be retargeted along with the other Asian TV channel redirects to Disney Channel (disambiguation). No comment on whether it should be kept. Skarmory (talk • contribs) 00:00, 5 February 2025 (UTC)
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Relisting comment: Can we get a second on Tavix's solution who actually thinks these should be kept? Otherwise, delete seems like the way to go.
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Târnavele Blaj
- The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
- The result of the discussion was keep. Once more, with feeling. There is now a mention at the target. asilvering (talk) 00:26, 10 February 2025 (UTC)
- CS CIL Blaj (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: //delete ] →
Not mentioned in target. Quick google suggests this is a location(?) in Blaj, doesn't point to the team. Rusalkii (talk) 21:28, 24 December 2024 (UTC)
- Keep Târnavele was the name of the team in the 1980s and comes from the rivers Târnava Mică and Târnava Mare, which together are called Târnavele. They will be mentioned in the article, but it will take some time. Here are two articles[1][2] in Romanian, where the name of the team is mentioned. Florin (talk) 22:07, 24 December 2024 (UTC)
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- Keep per creator and tag as {{R without mention}}. Jay 💬 19:09, 10 January 2025 (UTC)
- Delete due to the lack of mention, unless that gets fixed prior to this discussion being closed. (I oppose keeping and tagging this redirect with {{R without mention}} since the purpose of that template and its category is to put the redirect in a maintenance category to inform editors the redirect needs to be nominated for RFD ... which is what we are currently doing.) Steel1943 (talk) 21:38, 14 January 2025 (UTC)
- Where is the usage of
..to inform editors the redirect needs to be nominated for RFD
documented? Jay 💬 16:25, 15 January 2025 (UTC)- It's not technically mentioned anywhere, but it's assumed (and has been on numerous occasions) since the template throws the page into a maintenance category with the usual response being to nominate the redirect for RFD. In other words, we are already discussing the "maintenance" by having this discussion, and tagging the redirect starts the process currently in progress all over again. Steel1943 (talk) 19:47, 16 January 2025 (UTC)
- If there are editors who patrol the category to nominate redirects at RfD, it is their prerogative, but why assume that the consumers of the category are regulars at RfD? Jay 💬 20:18, 16 January 2025 (UTC)
- That's not really what I mean. The only way I can think of responding to this is that the nominator essentially already "patrolled" this redirect by nominating it. Why go through the same thing twice? Steel1943 (talk) 23:29, 16 January 2025 (UTC)
- I don't understand. A container category can be patrolled. How do you "patrol" an individual redirect? Jay 💬 15:10, 17 January 2025 (UTC)
- AFAIK, technically, only as a new page patroller. Unofficially, patrolling the redirect by "finding" it, which the nominator did. And even then, I'd imagine the majority of Wikipedia readers (not editors) would not even know or care how to view a redirect without automatically being redirected to its target page ... which apparently brings me back to the point that since the problems regarding this redirect have discovered and a discussion has been started, the odds of such issues being discovered again is rather low, so probably best to figure out a semipermanent solution during the course of this discussion. Steel1943 (talk) 18:14, 17 January 2025 (UTC)
- How long should a redirect stay in the unmentioned container category? 6 months, 3, 1, 1 week? Taking it to RfD essentially makes that timeline a 1 week minimum. Do we want to assume that the editors who patrol the category are the same editors who go through each and every redirect being discussed at RfD? Florin above said
They will be mentioned in the article, but it will take some time.
How much do we give him or any other editor (probably someone who is not on this RfD, but who looks at the category)? Jay 💬 08:12, 24 January 2025 (UTC)
- How long should a redirect stay in the unmentioned container category? 6 months, 3, 1, 1 week? Taking it to RfD essentially makes that timeline a 1 week minimum. Do we want to assume that the editors who patrol the category are the same editors who go through each and every redirect being discussed at RfD? Florin above said
- AFAIK, technically, only as a new page patroller. Unofficially, patrolling the redirect by "finding" it, which the nominator did. And even then, I'd imagine the majority of Wikipedia readers (not editors) would not even know or care how to view a redirect without automatically being redirected to its target page ... which apparently brings me back to the point that since the problems regarding this redirect have discovered and a discussion has been started, the odds of such issues being discovered again is rather low, so probably best to figure out a semipermanent solution during the course of this discussion. Steel1943 (talk) 18:14, 17 January 2025 (UTC)
- I don't understand. A container category can be patrolled. How do you "patrol" an individual redirect? Jay 💬 15:10, 17 January 2025 (UTC)
- That's not really what I mean. The only way I can think of responding to this is that the nominator essentially already "patrolled" this redirect by nominating it. Why go through the same thing twice? Steel1943 (talk) 23:29, 16 January 2025 (UTC)
- If there are editors who patrol the category to nominate redirects at RfD, it is their prerogative, but why assume that the consumers of the category are regulars at RfD? Jay 💬 20:18, 16 January 2025 (UTC)
- It's not technically mentioned anywhere, but it's assumed (and has been on numerous occasions) since the template throws the page into a maintenance category with the usual response being to nominate the redirect for RFD. In other words, we are already discussing the "maintenance" by having this discussion, and tagging the redirect starts the process currently in progress all over again. Steel1943 (talk) 19:47, 16 January 2025 (UTC)
- Where is the usage of
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Relisting comment: giving time for a mention to materialize
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List of cameos of the Mario series
- List of cameos of the Mario series → Mario (franchise) (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: //delete ]
- Cameos in the Mario series → Mario (franchise) (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: //delete ]
- Cameos of the Mario series → Mario (franchise) (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: //delete ]
No such list or topic in target article. Steel1943 (talk) 14:40, 2 January 2025 (UTC)
- Delete all per nom or retarget to a specific heading if applicable. Also, if only 2 or 3 exists, won't 2 act as 3 and vice versa? TheTechie@enwiki (she/they | talk) 02:10, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
- delete per nom and as... kind of vague, if i'm being honest. on top of there not being a list, what would this mean for donkey kong, for example? consarn (speak evil) (see evil) 11:57, 9 January 2025 (UTC)
- The List of cameos of the Mario series redirect was created as a result of a merge and I have tagged it as an {{R from merge}}. Jay 💬 20:28, 9 January 2025 (UTC)
- Particularly, List of cameos of the Mario series was merged into Mario in popular culture, which was then blank and redirected to Mario ("nothing to merge").
- I'm not familiar with how the community/policy goes on this rather protracted case of attribution of removed/diluted content. Tule-hog (talk) 07:59, 19 January 2025 (UTC)
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- Redirect: Cameos of the Mario series could be redirected to Mario#Cameos which mentions other characters, outside of the series itself.
- Delete: Cameos in the Mario series not so much.
- Comment: Barring my subcomment above about attribution, from what I understand from MOS:LISTBASICS, lists are a particular formatting style which Mario#Cameos does not follow so would not suit List of cameos of the Mario series. Also not familiar here with the precedent of 'List of' redirects to non-lists. Tule-hog (talk) 08:10, 19 January 2025 (UTC)
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Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, -- Patar knight - chat/contributions 22:19, 9 February 2025 (UTC)- Delete all except for Cameos in the Mario series which is sufficient when redirected per above. MimirIsSmart (talk) 13:13, 10 February 2025 (UTC)
May 21, 2004
- May 21, 2004 → 2004#May (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: //delete ]
No mention of May 21 at the target. Can't easily find anything to restore in the page history either. Departure– (talk) 19:42, 9 February 2025 (UTC)
Snape kills dumbledore
- The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
- The result of the discussion was delete. Uncontroversial per discussion already at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2025 January 21#Snape kills Dumbledore. Malinaccier (talk) 14:02, 10 February 2025 (UTC)
- Snape kills dumbledore → Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: //delete ]
Per Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2025 January 21#Snape kills Dumbledore. Janhrach (talk) 19:04, 9 February 2025 (UTC)
- Delete. Vandalism. MimirIsSmart (talk) 13:17, 10 February 2025 (UTC)
- was gonna tag for g8, but accidentally tagged for g4, though g8 might not apply since it was created in 2017 consarn (speak evil) (see evil) 13:24, 10 February 2025 (UTC)
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Brasileiros
- Brasileiros → Campeonato Brasileiro de Jiu-Jitsu (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: //delete ]
This word means "Brazilians" in Portuguese, so the current target is very surprising. I suggest retargeting to Brazilians. Duckmather (talk) 19:01, 9 February 2025 (UTC)
- This is the term used in the BJJ community, which is an abbreviation. (Heroeswithmetaphors) talk 20:04, 9 February 2025 (UTC)
- retarget to brazilians per nom. the championship is indeed a surprising target, even around wp-pt. just because the doom community uses "2016" to refer to the second best game in the franchise, doesn't mean 2016 should be a redirect to it consarn (speak evil) (see evil) 13:20, 10 February 2025 (UTC)
Sour apple
- Sour apple → Granny Smith (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: //delete ]
Ambiguous descriptive phrase not even mentioned at target. Numerous sour apple cultivars exist.[10] Paradoctor (talk) 16:42, 9 February 2025 (UTC)
- Comment: It seems like List of sour apple cultivators would be a viable standalone list, if anyone ever decided to make it. Given its current nonexistence, I'm leaning delete for the redirect until such a list is created per REDYES. — Anonymous 19:20, 9 February 2025 (UTC)
- @Anonymous, agreed, but I think you mean List of sour apple cultivars (cultivars as in cultivated plant varieties), not cultivators (people or companies who grow plants). Carguychris (talk) 15:15, 10 February 2025 (UTC)
- Thank you for improving my knowledge of horticultural terms. — Anonymous 17:48, 10 February 2025 (UTC)
- @Anonymous, agreed, but I think you mean List of sour apple cultivars (cultivars as in cultivated plant varieties), not cultivators (people or companies who grow plants). Carguychris (talk) 15:15, 10 February 2025 (UTC)
- Delete; "sour apple" is not just a fruit, it's a flavoring for a wide variety of candies and liqueurs, most of which have no documented connection to the Granny Smith apple, although the color green is commonly used for marketing and labels often display green apples. The problem is finding documentation in WP:RELIABLE sources; this story suggests no actual connection to the Granny Smith, and it also documents previous names and themes used to market the flavoring. I favor WP:REDYES. Carguychris (talk) 15:15, 10 February 2025 (UTC)
- Delete per Carguychris. I think the primary usage of "sour apple" is an artificial flavor, with particularly sour apple cultivars being secondary to the artificial flavor. We have an article for blue raspberry flavor. There could be an article for sour apple flavor, or a disambiguation page if their is an article for the flavor and a list of sour cultivars. But absent an article or list, delete this redirect. Plantdrew (talk) 21:04, 10 February 2025 (UTC)
- There is also a Sour Apple redirect that should be added to this nomination. Plantdrew (talk) 21:05, 10 February 2025 (UTC)
Main page/sandbox
- Main page/sandbox → Wikipedia:Main Page/sandbox (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: //delete ]
Unneeded cross-namespace redirect. * Pppery * it has begun... 15:42, 9 February 2025 (UTC)
- Delete. I don't see anybody without the knowledge of namespaces using this. mwwv converse∫edits 12:10, 10 February 2025 (UTC)
- Delete per above. / RemoveRedSky [talk] 14:58, 10 February 2025 (UTC)
- Keep Since the page main page is in mainspace, I think it is natural to append /sandbox directly. It does not appear in search results so there is no clutter for readers. Ca talk to me! 15:04, 10 February 2025 (UTC)
- Comment There was a discussion for Main Page/Yesterday, Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2016 August 15#Main_Page/Yesterday, that was closed as no consensus. I'll also note that there are 10 similar redirects under "Main Page/" (the nominated one is the only one under the lower case "Main page/"): Special:PrefixIndex?prefix=Main+Page/. Not sure if there's desire to bundle them at this point. Skynxnex (talk) 17:32, 10 February 2025 (UTC)
Red Movement
- Red Movement → Red#Use by political movements (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: //delete ]
Not mentioned in target article, nor does the target section exist. Seems the section target may be intended to be Red#In politics, but with there not being any specific mention of this phrase in the target article, at the least, there may not be a guarantee that readers searching this phrase are intending to locate information about politics. Steel1943 (talk) 18:45, 8 January 2025 (UTC)
- Retarget to Red Power movement, which seems like the most likely intended destination. Anonymous 20:21, 8 January 2025 (UTC)
- Keep. In the first two pages of results from a Google Books search for "Red Movement" in quotation marks, I see this phrase mainly used for socialist, communist, or closely related movements[11][12][13][14][15]. I also see one reference to the Red Shirts (Thailand)[16], a movement that should probably be added to Red#In politics. Oppose retargeting to Red Power movement as my search didn't find any sources using the term with that meaning, so I strongly doubt it's the primary topic. —Mx. Granger (talk · contribs) 03:17, 10 January 2025 (UTC)
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- Delete. At this capitalisation indicating a proper noun, I would expect to see something about a movement with that name, and we have nothing. I can't access all @Mx. Granger:'s examples but the first 2 aren't proper nouns. I also oppose a retarget for the same reason they do. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 17:26, 18 January 2025 (UTC)
- Delete per Shhhh. Jay 💬 13:56, 2 February 2025 (UTC)
- Delete per Shhhh. * Pppery * it has begun... 17:25, 3 February 2025 (UTC)
- Note that current target doesn't exist, and if kept the likeliest closest retarget would be Red#In politics. 18:12, 4 February 2025 (UTC)— Preceding unsigned comment added by Rusalkii (talk • contribs)
- Move to Red movement to avoid the proper noun issue and keep per Mx. Granger. -- Patar knight - chat/contributions 01:45, 9 February 2025 (UTC)
- A redirect page move makes sense if the page's pre-redirect content would align more with the new title than the old. In this case, the page started out as a redirect and we don't really know what Brandmeister meant with capitalized title. Jay 💬 07:28, 9 February 2025 (UTC)
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- Delete "Red movement" is a literal, descriptive phrase, not an idiom or name for one or more distinct concepts. We need somewhere to link to where the term gets defined, not just used.
Doo (pseudonym)
- Doo (pseudonym) → John Doe (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: //delete ]
There is no mention in the example of "Doo" being used as a pseudonym. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 11:20, 18 January 2025 (UTC)
- Keep. Mention inexplicably removed by IP restored. Hyphenation Expert (talk) 05:52, 19 January 2025 (UTC)
- Mention is of John Doo, and we have the redirect John Doo. Is Doo by itself used as a pseudonym? Jay 💬 11:45, 25 January 2025 (UTC)
- I'll go with Cyclone - delete. Jay 💬 10:43, 6 February 2025 (UTC)
- On the other hand John Doe is listed at Doe. Weak keep I guess. * Pppery * it has begun... 17:26, 3 February 2025 (UTC)
- Keep per *shrug*. Unambiguous, obvious to the reader once John Soon was restored to the article. Not particularly useful but WP:CHEAP.Rusalkii (talk) 18:14, 4 February 2025 (UTC)
- Delete. Confusing redirect. Not entirely clear that "Doo" is used as a pseudonym. CycloneYoris talk! 08:31, 6 February 2025 (UTC)
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Lukas Miklos
- Lukas Miklos → List of Left Behind characters (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: //delete ]
Redirected at AfD in 2009, no longer mentioned on the list of characters from this series, or anywhere on Wikipedia for that matter. Utopes (talk / cont) 00:54, 11 January 2025 (UTC)
- He's mentioned at The Indwelling, The Mark (novel), and Desecration (novel). I read these books in the mid-2010s but I have no memory of this character or his role in the books, which probably isn't a good sign. Hog Farm Talk 03:32, 18 January 2025 (UTC)
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- One of the options at the AfD was to merge into the list. If that cannot be done, take back to AfD since it has been 15 years. Jay 💬 14:55, 25 January 2025 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. And also consider AfDing the target as poorly-sourced fancruft. * Pppery * it has begun... 17:26, 3 February 2025 (UTC)
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Fédération de la Fonction Publique Européenne of the European Patent Office
- Fédération de la Fonction Publique Européenne of the European Patent Office → European Patent Office (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: //delete ]
The FFPE is a union that has a subsection at the European Patent Office. This page redirects to the European Patent Office article, which doesn't even mention the FFPE. I just don't see the point of this redirect. Aŭstriano (talk) 04:10, 11 January 2025 (UTC)
- Keep. The statement that "the European Patent Office article [...] doesn't even mention the FFPE" doesn't appear fully correct. The FFPE is mentioned in the "External links" section. Per "WP:RPURPOSE" "Subtopics or other topics that are described or listed within a wider article. [...]" (underlining added), this redirect does not appear useless. Of course, ideally the "Employees' representation and labour relations" section should mention the FFPE. --Edcolins (talk) 12:27, 11 January 2025 (UTC)
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- I have removed the staff union websites from the External links. Jay 💬 15:26, 25 January 2025 (UTC)
- Delete Even before Jay's edit there wasn't enough substance to warrant a redirect. * Pppery * it has begun... 04:18, 8 February 2025 (UTC)
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HowDoesOneEditaPage
- HowDoesOneEditaPage → Help:Editing (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: //delete ]
A) previously deleted in a separate RFD (Wikipedia:Redirects_for_discussion/Log/2020_April_10#HowDoesOneEditaPage
B) R from CamelCase should only be used for OLD pages or for pages where the camelcasing is plausible.
C) Inappropiate and implausible XNR
D) all of the 10 links to this redirect are unanimously about the OLD version of the page User:Someone-123-321 (I contribute, Talk page so SineBot will shut up) 09:39, 9 February 2025 (UTC)
- Speedy delete per WP:G4 2A0E:1D47:9085:D200:8139:4F47:7D35:2A9F (talk) 13:44, 9 February 2025 (UTC)
- Comment this isn't that simple; see:
- https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&page=HowDoesOneEditaPage
- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Log?&page=Wikipedia%3AHow+to+edit+a+page%2FHowDoesOneEditaPage
- https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:How_does_one_edit_a_page&action=history
- Janhrach (talk) 19:34, 9 February 2025 (UTC)
- And also these two:
- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Log?page=Wikipedia%3AHowDoesOne+EditaPage
- https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:HowDoesOneEditaPage&action=history
- In the light of this, I would suggest retargeting to Wikipedia:Historical archive/Abandoned help pages from 2001/How does one edit a page/Old version. Janhrach (talk) 19:42, 9 February 2025 (UTC)
- And also these two:
- Strong delete WP:XNR to non-reader content. Also Wikipedia isn't the only thing that you can edit. It could refer to any manual of style from the last couple of centuries. -- 65.92.246.77 (talk) 07:24, 10 February 2025 (UTC)
G (unit)
- G (unit) → Standard gravity (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: //delete ]
It could refer to many other units or G-Unit. Frost 14:35, 29 January 2025 (UTC)
- Maybe redirect it to something like G (disambiguation)? When trying to guess the name of the unit equal to about 9.81 m/s2, it took a bit for me to realize it was located at Standard gravity. I also made Gravity (unit) redirect to that page for convenience purposes. 27 is my favorite number. You can ask me why here. 16:43, 29 January 2025 (UTC)
- Retarget to G_(disambiguation)#Mathematics_and_science. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 23:38, 29 January 2025 (UTC)
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Relisting comment: Retarget to the disambig page or refine to the Mathematics and Science section? Notified of this discussion at the target and the disambig pages.
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- Disambiguate per LaundryPizza03: ambiguous with gram (unit). Paradoctor (talk) 14:11, 9 February 2025 (UTC)
Telemedia International Italia Ltd.
- Telemedia International Italia Ltd. → Telecom Italia Sparkle (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: //delete ]
Deletion: it wasn't a Ltd., but an S.p.A., because it's an Italy-based company. InterComMan (talk) 18:09, 30 January 2025 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Relisting only because this had a page move reversed and a speedy delete request rejected.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Jay 💬 08:12, 9 February 2025 (UTC)
- Delete Misleading about the company's legal status. Paradoctor (talk) 20:23, 9 February 2025 (UTC)
Chaguan
- Chaguan → Teahouse (play) (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: //delete ]
The only times Chaguan is linked to is when it's used to refer to the Chaguan people/tribe of Venezuela.
I believe "Chaguan" was originally linked as a red link, and diffs confirm that it was added before the redirect was created in Dec 2016. Immediately after the Chaguan redirect was added, it began to receive a lot of page views (Also, this had around 32k going to Teahouse and 1.5k going to Chaguan, but it seems Chaguan won't show up in the data anymore because I added a template to the redirect page).
I'm not exactly sure what the right move is because, without the redirect, the target would have been a red link. Either a) the redirect is removed, or b) it's kept and the links in Classification of Indigenous peoples and List of Indigenous peoples are edited to point to a new red link like "Chaguan people" or get deleted. – Kilvin the Futz-y Enterovirus (talk) 04:17, 1 February 2025 (UTC)
- Disambiguate (drafted at Chaguan). Alternatively, keep at Teahouse (play) or retarget to Teahouse, as this is a valid WP:RLOTE for those topics. —Mx. Granger (talk · contribs) 23:16, 1 February 2025 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Disambiguate, keep or retarget? Notified of this discussion at the suggested target Teahouse as well.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Jay 💬 08:00, 9 February 2025 (UTC)
- Disambiguate -- 65.92.246.77 (talk) 07:41, 10 February 2025 (UTC)
Tamago
- Tamago → Tamagoyaki (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: //delete ]
"Tamago" means "egg" in Japanese, whereas "yaki" means "grilled". The current target effectively redirects "egg" to "grilled egg", and is hence too specific compared to other Japanese egg dishes, particularly Onsen tamago. feminist🩸 (talk) 06:35, 9 February 2025 (UTC)
- Retarget to Egg. ABG (Talk/Report any mistakes here) 03:29, 10 February 2025 (UTC)
Delete WP:RLOTE:Common words or concepts
Disambiguate Found second topic Tamago (Mr. Stain on Junk Alley), dab has been drafted. Paradoctor (talk) 04:25, 10 February 2025 (UTC); edited 13:24, 10 February 2025 (UTC)- Retarget to Masami Akita discography where the 2004 album "Tamago" is listed. It cannot be redirected to Egg, since that is not a Japanese topic and there is no AFFINITY. It cannot target the current target, since it's the wrong name. The current target and other uses of Japanese food are PTM and not useful as not referred to as such on its own. -- 65.92.246.77 (talk) 07:29, 10 February 2025 (UTC)
- In theory, Category:Japanese egg dishes can be a plausible target. feminist🩸 (talk) 16:29, 10 February 2025 (UTC)
- Apart from the WP:XNR issue, "egg" shouldn't redirect to "egg dish" for the same reason it should not redirect to "grilled egg".
- More importantly, you missed me changing my !vote to "disambiguate". Redirecting to wherever is no longer appropriate. Paradoctor (talk) 17:07, 10 February 2025 (UTC)
- In theory, Category:Japanese egg dishes can be a plausible target. feminist🩸 (talk) 16:29, 10 February 2025 (UTC)
- Comment Tamago (food) also exists and points to the same target. It should be bundled into this nomination -- 65.92.246.77 (talk) 07:29, 10 February 2025 (UTC)
Oil Pan (Transformers)
- Oil Pan (Transformers) → Autobot (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: //delete ]
Not mentioned at target; a search for "oil pan" on-wiki does not appear to provide any relevant results. 1234qwer1234qwer4 05:17, 9 February 2025 (UTC)
- Delete - obscure character that was only a toy and not even an autobot. Schützenpanzer (Talk) 14:09, 9 February 2025 (UTC)
Cybersexism
- Cybersexism → Cyberbullying (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: //delete ]
Sexism is not restricted to bullying, and the target does not talk a lot about it anyway. There is wikt:cybersexism, but apart from that I am not sure how much relevant content we have to point the reader at. 1234qwer1234qwer4 05:15, 9 February 2025 (UTC)
- Delete/Wiktionary redirect rare term that is too vague to point a specific article. Traumnovelle (talk) 05:20, 9 February 2025 (UTC)
- Retarget to sexism as {{r from hyponym}} and tag as {{r with possibilities}}, per "Cybersexism: How Gender and Sexuality Are at Play in Cyberspace ". Paradoctor (talk) 13:43, 10 February 2025 (UTC)
Bo'oh'o'wa'er
- Bo'oh'o'wa'er → T-glottalization (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: //delete ]
- Bo'ohw'o'wo'er → T-glottalization (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: //delete ]
Delete per the outcome of Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 September 19#Bo’oh’o’wa’er. — Anonymous 04:38, 9 February 2025 (UTC)
Concise Grove Dictionary of Music
- Concise Grove Dictionary of Music → The New Grove Dictionary of Music and Musicians (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: //delete ]
This particular version of the work is not mentioned at the target. 1234qwer1234qwer4 03:35, 9 February 2025 (UTC)
PE infection
- PE infection → Malware#Virus (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: //delete ]
This was merged into the target, but that one no longer mentions it. 1234qwer1234qwer4 03:26, 9 February 2025 (UTC)
- Comment It is still in the target article, but is named differently, with "PE" spelled out. The edit history should be displaced to portable executable infection, since "PE" is opaque and has multitude of meanings unrelated to the merged content. In particular, an infection can cause a pulmonary embolism. And "Pe" can refer to Pseudomonas entomophila, which can cause an infection. -- 65.92.246.77 (talk) 07:34, 10 February 2025 (UTC)
Te Kura Kaupapa Māori o Taumarere
- Te Kura Kaupapa Māori o Taumarere → Taumarere (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: //delete ]
Not mentioned at target Traumnovelle (talk) 03:24, 9 February 2025 (UTC)
- That's because the school is in Moerewa. Now corrected.-Gadfium (talk) 08:43, 9 February 2025 (UTC)
- Keep repointed redirect - cheers G. Grutness...wha? 11:43, 9 February 2025 (UTC)
ZeuS
This particular capitalisation would probably refer to Gameover ZeuS. The page was originally created as a camel-case title in pre-MediaWiki times, so I'm not sure how easily this is retargeted, but in case it is not, a hatnote would unfortunately appear quite odd (though the malware should probably be added to Zeus (disambiguation) either way). 1234qwer1234qwer4 03:23, 9 February 2025 (UTC)
Delete. Unlikely typo for a god, an unlikely redirect for malware. Викидим (talk) 03:30, 9 February 2025 (UTC)
- Changing vote to Keep. With the "delete" option unavailable, the least damage is done by keeping redirect to a well-known properly capitalized name, thus avoiding a surprise. Most search engines ignore the case anyhow, so this redirect will not help externally to find the malware article. --Викидим (talk) 03:54, 9 February 2025 (UTC)
- {{R from CamelCase}} redirects are kept for continuity/compatibility purposes so the first argument does not apply. 1234qwer1234qwer4 03:37, 9 February 2025 (UTC)
- (edit conflict) Retarget to Gameover ZeuS, as I can't imagine someone capitalising the final letter when looking for the god, and I'm not seeing anything at Zeus (disambiguation) which this might refer to instead. Adding Gameover ZeuS to Zeus (disambiguation) also seems sensible to me. – Michael Aurel (talk) 03:33, 9 February 2025 (UTC)
- Disambiguate between Zeus and Gameover ZeuS. On one hand, Gameover is more accurate to the redirect but on the other hand the history of this article was always about the Greek god. User:Someone-123-321 (I contribute, Talk page so SineBot will shut up) 09:54, 9 February 2025 (UTC)
- Retarget to Gameover ZeuS. Agreed with Michael Aurel that anyone typing it this way is probably thinking of the malware. A hatnote directing to Zeus and Zeus (disambiguation) could be added there, and the article added to the disambiguation page as well. That should cover all the likely possibilities. P Aculeius (talk) 14:49, 9 February 2025 (UTC)
- Retarget to Zeus (disambiguation) -- this will take care of {{R from camelcase}} of a redirect from 2001; and other uses; just list it on the dab page -- 65.92.246.77 (talk) 07:37, 10 February 2025 (UTC)
- Retarget per above. / RemoveRedSky [talk] 14:57, 10 February 2025 (UTC)
Te Kura Kaupapa Māori o Pukemiro
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- The result of the discussion was premature close. The target has since been changed, and the new target seems to solve the only issue the original nom had. (non-admin closure) User:Someone-123-321 (I contribute, Talk page so SineBot will shut up) 09:51, 9 February 2025 (UTC)
- Te Kura Kaupapa Māori o Pukemiro → Pukepoto#Education (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: //delete ]
Not mentioned at target. Traumnovelle (talk) 03:17, 9 February 2025 (UTC)
- That's because the school is in Kaitaia. Now corrected.-Gadfium (talk) 08:48, 9 February 2025 (UTC)
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Cyberwarfare by India
- Cyberwarfare by India → Cyberattack#India and Pakistan (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: //delete ]
- Cyberwarfare by Pakistan → Cyberattack#India and Pakistan (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: //delete ]
No longer mentioned at target. Cyberwarfare in India redirects to Cyberwarfare#India, though that might be somewhat different. 1234qwer1234qwer4 03:05, 9 February 2025 (UTC)
Clickskrieg
- Clickskrieg → Cyberwarfare (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: //delete ]
No mention anywhere on the English Wikipedia. A web search tells that this has been applied to the 2007 cyberattacks on Estonia, though I feel like this might be too obscure of a term to warrant a mention. 1234qwer1234qwer4 03:01, 9 February 2025 (UTC)
Cyber cold war
- Cyber cold war → Cyberwarfare (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: //delete ]
No mention of "cold war" at the target. Apart from deletion, Second Cold War could maybe be a potential target, though there is not a lot of content on "cyber" things there either. 1234qwer1234qwer4 02:59, 9 February 2025 (UTC)
- Retarget to Cyber espionage is only a little better than Second Cold War. Not the best but think that "Cyber cold war" is still a viable search term that should lead somewhere. --Pmedema (talk) 13:04, 10 February 2025 (UTC)
Online harassment
- Online harassment → Cyberbullying (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: //delete ]
- Digital harassment → Cyberbullying (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: //delete ]
- Internet harassment → Cyberbullying (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: //delete ]
- Cyber harassment → Cybercrime#Harassment (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: //delete ]
- Cyberharassment → Cybercrime#Online harassment (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: //delete ]
- Harassment by computer → Cybercrime#Harassment (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: //delete ]
- Attacking users → Cybercrime#Harassment (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: //delete ]
(Most of?) these should point at the same target. 1234qwer1234qwer4 02:49, 9 February 2025 (UTC)
- Delete attacking users, too generic of a term to be a useful redirect Traumnovelle (talk) 05:22, 9 February 2025 (UTC)
As the creator of Internet harassment, keep all but "Attacking users" per User:Traumnovelle. Most of these are plausible search terms, no opinion on which of the two articles they should direct to though. JeffSpaceman (talk) 12:00, 9 February 2025 (UTC)
- Delete "Attacking users" per above; point all others to Cyberbullying as online harassment is not necessarily a crime in all circumstances/jurisdictions. — Anonymous 19:15, 9 February 2025 (UTC)
Soutane (malware)
- Soutane (malware) → Malware (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: //delete ]
Not mentioned at target. 1234qwer1234qwer4 02:41, 9 February 2025 (UTC)
Scamware
- Scamware → Trojan horse (computing) (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: //delete ]
The target does not mention the word "scam", and this seems to be somewhat different or more general than trojan horses. Apart from wikt:scamware, I also cannot find any more suitable alternative. 1234qwer1234qwer4 02:36, 9 February 2025 (UTC)
Momovirus
- Momovirus → Trojan horse (computing) (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: //delete ]
Not mentioned anywhere on the English Wikipedia. A web search did not help me understand what this might be referring to in the first place. 1234qwer1234qwer4 02:32, 9 February 2025 (UTC)
Play Mp3
- Play Mp3 → Trojan horse (computing) (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: //delete ]
Not mentioned at target; this one can also cause confusion. 1234qwer1234qwer4 02:30, 9 February 2025 (UTC)
- Delete too generic of a term Traumnovelle (talk) 03:26, 9 February 2025 (UTC)
Play mp3.exe (trojan)
- Play mp3.exe (trojan) → Trojan horse (computing) (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: //delete ]
Not mentioned at target. 1234qwer1234qwer4 02:30, 9 February 2025 (UTC)
- Delete too specific of a term with the parentheses to be a plausible search term Traumnovelle (talk) 03:26, 9 February 2025 (UTC)
Friends lesbian kiss episode
- Friends lesbian kiss episode → Friends season 7#ep166 (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: //delete ]
Are descriptive episode names like this helpful? I'm genuinely asking. Also, it seems to have been wrongly tagged as being from a merge. — Anonymous 02:03, 9 February 2025 (UTC)
- Weak keep I don't doubt someone would see smth like "my favourite episode of friends was the lesbian kiss episode" on socmed and look up something like "Friends lesbain kiss episode" User:Someone-123-321 (I contribute, Talk page so SineBot will shut up) 09:48, 9 February 2025 (UTC)
Ddox
This seems like an implausible way to refer to the target topic; web searches reveal only unrelated results. 1234qwer1234qwer4 02:01, 9 February 2025 (UTC)
- Could this have possibly been created in error? — Anonymous 02:04, 9 February 2025 (UTC)
- Delete I was thinking that this would be a misspelling of DDoS when I first saw the redirect, and i assume at least one other post on the Hypixel forums did as well. User:Someone-123-321 (I contribute, Talk page so SineBot will shut up) 09:44, 9 February 2025 (UTC)
English WikipediA
- English WikipediA → English Wikipedia (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: //delete ]
WP:UNNATURAL capitalisation; implausible redirect. 1234qwer1234qwer4 01:58, 9 February 2025 (UTC)
- Keep per {{R from camelcase}}. I am bad at usernames (talk) 03:13, 9 February 2025 (UTC)
- Delete This isn't a plausible search term, and if it was the search results would help a user find the right page. {{R from camelcase}} is for legacy page names.I note that the creator of this redirect also created Ddox as a redirect, suggesting a deficient understanding (at best) of the purpose of redirects. Oblivy (talk) 03:22, 9 February 2025 (UTC)
- @Oblivy, on that note, having looked through their contributions, I see that they have made many other confusing, often downright bizarre, redirects. Looking at Wikipedia:‑( makes me seriously question their level of competence. — Anonymous 03:39, 9 February 2025 (UTC)
- Comment camelcasE sayS nothinG abouT makinG thE lasT letteR captiaL, buT aS yoU caN seE thiS iS A verY normaL waY oF typinG sO thiS redirecT shoulD defientilY bE kepT[just kidding] Anthony2106 (talk) 07:57, 10 February 2025 (UTC)
- but someone should nominate https://en.m.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=WikipediA&oldid=208363752
- Used on that uses page, they probably just copyed wikipediA Anthony2106 (talk) 08:08, 10 February 2025 (UTC)
- Delete This isn't a plausible search term, and if it was the search results would help a user find the right page. {{R from camelcase}} is for legacy page names.I note that the creator of this redirect also created Ddox as a redirect, suggesting a deficient understanding (at best) of the purpose of redirects. Oblivy (talk) 03:22, 9 February 2025 (UTC)
- DeletE peR noM. 2A0E:1D47:9085:D200:8139:4F47:7D35:2A9F (talk) 13:41, 9 February 2025 (UTC)
Пример
WP:RLOTE; no affinity to Russian. 1234qwer1234qwer4 01:57, 9 February 2025 (UTC)
Divrras šokolahta
- Divrras šokolahta → Dark chocolate (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: //delete ]
WP:RLOTE; unclear relation to Northern Sámi. 1234qwer1234qwer4 01:57, 9 February 2025 (UTC)
Bitter chocolate
- Bitter chocolate → Baking chocolate (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: //delete ]
This seems to refer to dark chocolate. 1234qwer1234qwer4 01:56, 9 February 2025 (UTC)
The Y
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- The result of the discussion was Withdrawn by nominator. Will open an RM instead. (non-admin closure) ToThAc (talk) 22:46, 9 February 2025 (UTC)
- The Y → Y (disambiguation) (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: //delete ]
Unclear why this redirects to Y (disambiguation) when The Y (disambiguation) exists. I'll add that some users have in the past attempted to retarget to YMCA without discussion, of which all have been reverted. ToThAc (talk) 00:43, 9 February 2025 (UTC)
- Probably best to open an RM for the DAB page. — Anonymous 02:06, 9 February 2025 (UTC)
- Agree with the above; this seems to be the wrong venue. 1234qwer1234qwer4 02:33, 9 February 2025 (UTC)
- @An anonymous username, not my real name and 1234qwer1234qwer4: Good point. I'll withdraw this then. ToThAc (talk) 22:45, 9 February 2025 (UTC)
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