Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 October 1
October 1
Category:Bohorodchany
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- The result of the discussion was: delete. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 01:51, 9 October 2024 (UTC)
- Propose deleting Category:Bohorodchany ( | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Nominator's rationale: Unnecessary category since it contains only one article beyond the main article. (Arguably, though, we could add Bohorodchany Raion.) Pichpich (talk) 23:11, 1 October 2024 (UTC)
- Delete, as this is apparently about the rural settlement, the county article does not even belong in the category. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:49, 2 October 2024 (UTC)
- Delete as per above. Gjs238 (talk) 14:34, 4 October 2024 (UTC)
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Category:2024 police activities in Australia
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- The result of the discussion was: merge. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 01:51, 9 October 2024 (UTC)
- Propose merging Category:2024 police activities in Australia to Category:2024 in Australia
- Nominator's rationale: I propose an upmerge to Category:2024 in Australia. It's not clear what a "police activity" is although judging by the contents it's "whatever required the intervention of police (or overseeing by police) at some point". I don't really see this as defining and the three articles in the category currently are only very very loosely related. Note that, to my knowledge, there is no existing comparable category. Pichpich (talk) 23:01, 1 October 2024 (UTC)
- Merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:50, 2 October 2024 (UTC)
- Merge per nom. Wikishovel (talk) 17:37, 2 October 2024 (UTC)
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Category:Ariel (settlement)
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- The result of the discussion was: rename. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 01:52, 9 October 2024 (UTC)
- Propose renaming Category:Ariel (settlement) to Category:Ariel (Israeli settlement)
- Nominator's rationale: To match it's main article, which is Ariel (Israeli settlement) nableezy - 21:52, 1 October 2024 (UTC)
- Support, this could have been listed at speedy. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:53, 2 October 2024 (UTC)
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Category:Vancouver sports championships
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- The result of the discussion was: delete. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 01:52, 9 October 2024 (UTC)
- Propose deleting Category:Vancouver sports championships ( | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Nominator's rationale: WP:NONDEF User:Namiba 20:22, 1 October 2024 (UTC)
- Delete, trivial intersection between geographical entity and sports accomplishment. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:55, 2 October 2024 (UTC)
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- The result of the discussion was: add Cyprus. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 02:51, 9 October 2024 (UTC)
- Propose establishing inclusion criteria for Category:States with limited recognition
- Nominator's rationale: The current membership of this category seems somewhat WP:ARBITRARYCAT when compared to the contents of main article List of states with limited recognition. That list is great at explaining all the fine legal nuances, in a way that a category like this will always struggle to do. There appears to be a consensus that this category should exist, see also precedent Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2022 February 23#Category:States with limited recognition. But participants in that discussion appear not to have agreed which articles should be in or out. Notably, Cyprus is in the list, but not the category; otherwise they seem to coincide (unless I'm missing something).
- I'm bringing this up because I just created Category:Lists of wars by state with limited recognition involved as a subcategory of both Category:States with limited recognition and Category:Lists of wars by country involved, because I didn't think Abkhazia, Kosovo, Republika Srpska, SADR, Somaliland, South Ossetia and Taiwan should be considered "countries" under international law. But then I had my doubts about North Korea and South Korea (only not recognised by each other), Israel and State of Palestine (both recognised by the vast majority of UN member states, but missing several dozens of recognitions), and the PRC.
- Perhaps adding Cyprus to the category will already solve this issue? But I'd like to confirm with you first here. Especially calling the Koreas' recognition "limited" just because they don't recognise each other, and calling Cyprus' recognition "limited" just because Turkey doesn't recognise Cyprus (only Northern Cyprus, as the only UN state), seems a bit of a stretch of the word "limited". I mean, you really could do worse than 192 out of 193. But if we agree on that definition, then I'll apply that to the subcategory on wars they were involved in. We might also discuss whether we consider Republika Srpska as either a "country" or "state with limited recognition", as it appears not to have claimed independence since the Dayton Agreement of 1995 (making it a non-sovereign entity within Bosnia and Herzegovina); it's not in the List of states with limited recognition either. Finally, I did include List of wars involving the Chechen Republic of Ichkeria, but with the understanding that the Chechen Republic of Ichkeria no longer exists (it's in Category:Wikipedia categories named after former unrecognized states). Thoughts? NLeeuw (talk) 20:19, 1 October 2024 (UTC)
- Should we have a category at all? A list is able to show the complexities of the topic much better than a category. Marcocapelle (talk) 20:57, 1 October 2024 (UTC)
participants in that discussion appear not to have agreed which articles should be in or out
actually, there was a RfC about it not long ago and the consensus was that all the listed states belong in that list. M.Bitton (talk) 22:44, 1 October 2024 (UTC)- Ah, that's helpful information. You seem to mean Talk:List of states with limited recognition/Archive 15#Rfc on removing Armenia, China, Cyprus, Israel, Palestine, and North Korea from this article (April to June 2024), which had an overwhelming majority for keeping it as it was. I also see you already added Armenia, Cyprus, Israel, and China to Category:Lists of wars by state with limited recognition involved. So I suppose you would also support adding Cyprus to Category:States with limited recognition? I think we are going to come to a consensus quickly here.
- Lastly, what about List of wars involving Republika Srpska? It's WP:UNSOURCED and barely a "list" (3 items), so I don't know if it has a future. But presuming it does, should we perhaps treat it in a similar way as List of wars involving the Chechen Republic of Ichkeria? It's currently in the tree Category:Republika Srpska > Category:Political divisions of Bosnia and Herzegovina > Category:First-level administrative divisions by country, so we do not regard it as a sovereign country since 1995. But perhaps we could regard it as a state with limited recognition before 1995 that gave up its claim to independence in 1995? Just like Ichkeria, we could then put it in Category:Lists of wars by former country involved (as an unrecognised former "country") and Category:Lists of wars by state with limited recognition involved (as an unrecognised former "country"). I think that would be the best pragmatic solution that is technically correct.
- NLeeuw (talk) 08:09, 2 October 2024 (UTC)
- Comment I just WP:BOLDly added Cyprus. It seems that we all agree. I'll leave the question open for a little while longer in case anyone disagrees or has something interesting to add. NLeeuw (talk) 17:02, 3 October 2024 (UTC)
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Category:Louisville Black Caps
Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 October 9#Category:Louisville Black Caps
Category:Indian women translators
Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 October 9#Category:Indian women translators
Category:Urdu-language women writers
Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 October 9#Category:Urdu-language women writers
Category:Military of Württemberg
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- The result of the discussion was: delete. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 01:54, 9 October 2024 (UTC)
- Propose deleting Category:Military of Württemberg ( | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Nominator's rationale: delete, redundant category layer with only one subcategory. There is no need to merge, the subcategory is already part of Category:History of Württemberg too. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:00, 1 October 2024 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. NLeeuw (talk) 17:04, 3 October 2024 (UTC)
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Category:History of the Timurid Empire
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- The result of the discussion was: merge. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 01:55, 9 October 2024 (UTC)
- Propose merging Category:History of the Timurid Empire to Category:Timurid Empire
- Nominator's rationale: merge, there is little content in this category and former countries do not need a history category per se. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:55, 1 October 2024 (UTC)
- Merge per nom. NLeeuw (talk) 17:03, 3 October 2024 (UTC)
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Category:Universities and colleges in Washington County, Rhode Island
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- The result of the discussion was: merge. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 01:55, 9 October 2024 (UTC)
- Nominator's rationale: Upmerge. this category only has one university in it Mason (talk) 02:44, 1 October 2024 (UTC)
- Merge per nom, this is not helpful for navigation. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:08, 2 October 2024 (UTC)
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Category:Animals of Barbuda
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- The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:Endemic fauna of Barbuda. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 01:55, 9 October 2024 (UTC)
- Propose renaming Category:Animals of Barbuda to Category:Fauna of Barbuda
- Nominator's rationale: Norm is Fauna. This could probably be speedied. BUt I also wanted to consider whether we need the category at all. Mason (talk) 01:33, 1 October 2024 (UTC)
- Merge more specifically to Category:Endemic fauna of Barbuda which apparently applies to both articles. It is Category:Fauna of Barbuda that we probably do not need. Marcocapelle (talk) 02:39, 1 October 2024 (UTC)
- Excellent find! Mason (talk) 13:24, 1 October 2024 (UTC)
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Categories named after Canadian Premier League seasons
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- The result of the discussion was: rename as nominated. RedBlueGreen93 rebuts GiantSnowman's objection, and a majority supports renaming, resulting in clear consensus to do so. No prejudice against a C2D nomination if the articles are renamed. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 01:59, 9 October 2024 (UTC)
- Propose renaming Category:2019 Canadian Premier League to Category:2019 Canadian Premier League season
- Propose renaming Category:2020 Canadian Premier League to Category:2020 Canadian Premier League season
- Propose renaming Category:2021 Canadian Premier League to Category:2021 Canadian Premier League season
- Propose renaming Category:2022 Canadian Premier League to Category:2022 Canadian Premier League season
- Propose renaming Category:2023 Canadian Premier League to Category:2023 Canadian Premier League season
- Propose renaming Category:2024 Canadian Premier League to Category:2024 Canadian Premier League season
- Nominator's rationale: The names of these eponymous categories should match the title of their main articles. RedBlueGreen93 20:35, 24 June 2024 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related page discussions. GiantSnowman 19:32, 23 September 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose - the category names are correct, it is the articles names which need changing, see 2024–25 Premier League and Category:2024–25 Premier League, as well as many others in Category:2024–25 domestic association football leagues, none of which use 'season'. GiantSnowman 19:36, 23 September 2024 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Thoughts on GiantSnowman's comment?
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 01:11, 1 October 2024 (UTC)- Note - Per Wikipedia:WikiProject Football/League season, association football leagues articles that have multiple phases, such as postseason championships, are supposed to include the word season. Your examples of 2024–25 Premier League and Category:2024–25 Premier League only play a regular season, so their names are correct. This is not the case for the Canadian Premier League, Major League Soccer, Liga MX, etc. — Preceding unsigned comment added by RedBlueGreen93 (talk • contribs) 21:12, 3 October 2024 (UTC)
- Rename for Now per WP:C2D to match the main article names, like 2022 Canadian Premier League season. This discussion about the correct article names is in the wrong venue and deserves a WP:RM nomination where people familiar with football are more likely to participate. (If/when the articles are renamed through consensus, no objection to speedy renaming the categories again per WP:C2D.) - RevelationDirect (talk) 11:02, 8 October 2024 (UTC)
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Category:Defunct airlines of Turkmenistan
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- The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:Airlines of Turkmenistan and Category:Defunct airlines of Asia. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 01:56, 9 October 2024 (UTC)
- Propose deleting Category:Defunct airlines of Turkmenistan ( | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Nominator's rationale: Category containing only one article, List of defunct airlines of Turkmenistan, unhelpful for navigation. AusLondonder (talk) 00:44, 1 October 2024 (UTC)
- Merge to Airlines of Turkmenistan , Defunct airlines of Asia, and Defunct companies of Turkmenistan @AusLondonder please consider plausible merge targets. The vast majority of your deletions have resulted in merges Mason (talk) 01:36, 1 October 2024 (UTC)
- I don't support a merge to the defunct companies category as it's just moving the problem from one category with a single article to another with a single article. I'll have a look at my XfD log but I'd be surprised if the vast majority of nominations have been merged. AusLondonder (talk) 01:40, 1 October 2024 (UTC)
- Merge to Airlines of Turkmenistan , Defunct airlines of Asia, and Defunct companies of Turkmenistan @AusLondonder please consider plausible merge targets. The vast majority of your deletions have resulted in merges Mason (talk) 01:36, 1 October 2024 (UTC)
- Merge to Category:Airlines of Turkmenistan and Category:Defunct airlines of Asia, per above discussion. Marcocapelle (talk) 02:44, 1 October 2024 (UTC)
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