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The result was redirect‎ to Runrig discography. as an ATD. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 02:15, 21 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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I could not find significant coverage of this single in reliable sources. Fenix Funeral Directors is a website for a funeral home, and the source is titled "Top 10 Runrig Songs For a Funeral". This article can be redirected to Runrig discography, where its chart information is recorded. voorts (talk/contributions) 22:39, 6 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Albums and songs, Music, United Kingdom, and Scotland. voorts (talk/contributions) 22:39, 6 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Redirect. Doing a BEFORE search is annoying here because the band's origin in the Isle of Skye is frequently mentioned, but this song doesn't appear to have been written about. Mach61 03:45, 7 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Comment: Goodreg3 opposes for the reasons discussed on his talk page and this AfD discussion. voorts (talk/contributions) 17:03, 7 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  Comment I would like to point out the recently added subsection regarding coverage of high profile controversy around the charting position of "Skye", which would indicate a degree of notability. Goodreg3 (talk) 20:27, 7 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  The two Music Week articles are primary sources, so they don't establish notability. voorts (talk/contributions) 21:19, 7 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  What more do you seriously want? I have provided information on what was clearly a significant event at the time. On one hand, you point out "self published sources" as not being enough, and on the other, you are equally unhappy with published magazines. What is it you are exactly looking for? Goodreg3 (talk) 21:43, 7 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  Generally, significant coverage of a song is something like a review, an analysis of its themes or structure, or a discussion of its role in popular culture. I listed some sources that I would consider significant on the talk page for An Ubhal as Àirde (The Highest Apple), which I did find to be a notable single by Runrig. voorts (talk/contributions) 22:02, 7 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  For what it's worth, I tried and failed (at a level approaching WP:BEFORE) to find an independent description of this supposed controversy. Finally was able to load the Music Week (some kind of geoblock I think). I agree the 19 January 1985 article certainly seems like significant coverage. The 26-1-85 issue is just recapping the 19-1 story and saying bad weather was delaying the investigation.

  Voorts why is this primary? Music Week doesn't mention being part of Gallup. I can't imagine it is/was based on the tone and third-person references in the articles, but maybe you have reasons. Oblivy (talk) 02:57, 14 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  Per WP:PRIMARYNEWS, reporting on an evolving investigation makes it a primary source. voorts (talk/contributions) 03:54, 14 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  Thanks for alerting me to that essay. There seems to be a disconnect between a reporter writing as an eyewitness (see "investigative reports" and footnote a of the essay) and a reporter relying on primary sources generated elsewhere to write an article. I see where you're coming from, but I'm not sure you're right this article fits the situation described in the essay let alone policy. I'm not seeing a second significant source in the article-for-deletion, so it may not matter. Oblivy (talk) 04:18, 14 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  I was referring more to the breaking news example, as well as the portion above the examples, which discusses how writing about an event immediately after it occurs is based on the writers' interpretation of events and is thus a primary source. See, for example, this quote: ""Characteristically, primary sources are contemporary to the events and people described ..." voorts (talk/contributions) 05:12, 14 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Star Mississippi 02:27, 14 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete: Charting at 108th place isn't terribly notable. Outside of the charts listed, I don't see any reviews or analyses of the song. Could perhaps redirect to the album? Oaktree b (talk) 16:26, 14 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.