The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. Sandstein 17:08, 26 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Ches Smith (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View log)

Tagged as nn-bio speedy, but playing with a whole bunch of bluelinks and other stuff in the article means that it does not qualify. However, the impact and nature of those performances probably requires investigation. Splash - tk 21:25, 14 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete As its stands, without sources or a notable discography, it doesn't fly with WP:MUSIC in my opinion Dick G 03:00, 15 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
• Above seems inconsistent with entry on fellow Xiu Xiu member Caralee McElroy, which is more of a biography.—Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.159.148.121 (talk) 03:48, 15 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

  Only because it has slipped through the AfD net I suspect. Should probably be up for deletion as well for same reasons Dick G 04:31, 15 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

  Comment As per above I am also nominating the following related pages:

Caralee McElroy (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

• Weak keep as a hot mess of an article, but he passes notability under WP:MUSIC. He is the member, or former member, of a major band. I know... it's not inherited.... Bearian 00:54, 16 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Did he play with those bands as a member or just a guest? The notabiliity requirement you're using (WP:MUSIC musicians #6) is if he was a full-fledged member. Nonetheless, with that many close calls I'd lean towards keep as well. Rigadoun (talk) 19:34, 20 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    • According to All Music Guide he is a member of Xiu Xiu, making him notable. --Bruce1ee 08:44, 21 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep. I've added a few external links and expanded the discography. --Bruce1ee 11:22, 17 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Could you do that for Caralee McElroy as well, the other person considered here? It might help establish her notability in this discussion. Rigadoun (talk) 19:35, 20 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    • ...done. As she is also a member of Xiu Xiu, that should make her notable as well. But where is her afd discussion page? The link on Caralee McElroy points here. --Bruce1ee 09:15, 21 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so that consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Carlossuarez46 18:40, 20 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep A musician is notable if WP:MUSIC#Criteria for musicians and ensembles 6. "was once a part of or later joined a band that is otherwise notable" as a member of Xiu Xiu. dissolve^talk 00:32, 21 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
• Weak Keep - He does meet WP:MUSIC criterion #6, as a full fledged member of Xiu Xiu, as shown by the article's infobox, which lists him as a current member. Neranei (talk) 19:10, 23 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.