User talk:Keivan.f
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Points for discussion.
Well I had a few points to discuss here with you regarding Catherine's potential FAC:
- The "Public life" and "Public image" sections have gone through a complete rewrite since the last FAC. I have introduced what different authors have said about her, how the major visits were received by the public, etc.
- I would like to know your opinion as to how the lead could be expanded (so as to include details of her cancer diagnosis).
- Can the "Early life" section be expanded? If not, are there any more book citations/critical commentary by journalists on her early life? (I will conduct my own research on this though your input will be appreciated.)
- Do the "Personal life" and "Ancestry" sections require modifications?
- The "Charity work" section and gone through major changes but it is essential that its parts are rewritten to match FAC standards. Any book citations and further commentary found in the news will be beneficial.
@Keivan.f Looking forward to your response. Regards. MSincccc (talk) 19:11, 15 January 2025 (UTC)
- Hi. I still firmly believe that the article needs one (preferably two) solid print biographies cited. You can only then fully figure out which sections can benefit from further expansion. I would not recommend touching the lede until work is done on the body of the article. Unfortunately I cannot make any meaningful contributions in terms of expanding the page as my schedule is pretty much full until the summer but you can focus on reworking the sections bit by bit using an acceptable book (if you have access to one). Keivan.fTalk 20:11, 15 January 2025 (UTC)
- @Keivan.f Do you think that Robert Jobson's 2024 biography on Catherine can be used as a solid print source despite what has been said of it by book reviewers of reputed newspapers? Katie Nicholl has already been cited multiple times. If you are aware of any other books which include details about her, please do let me know. Looking forward to your response. MSincccc (talk) 16:58, 16 January 2025 (UTC)
- If you have any solid print biographies/authors to suggest, please do so. As it is, we are collaborating together in this project. Looking forward to your response. Regards. MSincccc (talk) 04:54, 17 January 2025 (UTC)
- Kate - A Biography of Kate Middleton; The Ancestry of Catherine Middleton; Kate: The Making of a Princess; Kate: A Biography; Kate: The Future Queen. These are some of the acceptable ones. Keivan.fTalk 06:38, 17 January 2025 (UTC)
- @Keivan.f A user has been trying to insert details about Catherine's photography incident in the Public opinion section despite the same information being covered in the Privacy and media section. Please take a look into it. Regards. MSincccc (talk) 01:03, 20 January 2025 (UTC)
- @Keivan.f Well, the user has realised his error. Hence, there is no need for intervention at present. Looking forward to any future collaborations. Regards. MSincccc (talk) 08:56, 20 January 2025 (UTC)
- According to actor Martin Freeman, who met William at the London premiere of his first Hobbit film in 2012[1], William is an enthusiastic fan of the J. R. R. Tolkien stories about Middle-earth[2], and in February 2023 it was reported that William and his family visited the U.K. set of the Tolkien-inspired streaming series The Lord of the Rings: The Rings of Power.[3] Sources like the Sun, YouTube, and the Mirror are not preferred generally due to their reliability, but @Keivan.f would you consider adding the above information to William, Prince of Wales's article if supported with a higher quality source? Looking forward to knowing your opinion. Regards. MSincccc (talk) 13:37, 21 January 2025 (UTC)
- It can be added if it had acceptable sources (none of the ones listed above are). And perhaps it should also be incorporated into a section titled "Personal interests" because at the moment it does not fit into any of the existing sections. It would have been nice if there was info on his other literary interests though, something along the lines of the "Visual, performing, and literary arts" section on Charles III's article. You can try and see what you can find. Keivan.fTalk 14:22, 21 January 2025 (UTC)
- @Keivan.f Can Prince William be called a "Swiftie"? Looking forward to your response.
- MSincccc (talk) 16:16, 21 January 2025 (UTC)
- You could argue that he's interested in her music or that genre in general but I would not classify him as a hardcore Swiftie. You don't see Keir Starmer being called as such despite attending her concert. The whole thing is kinda trivial. Keivan.fTalk 16:21, 21 January 2025 (UTC)
- @Keivan.f You are invited to join the discussion on the "Personal interests" section at Talk: William, Prince of Wales. Regards. MSincccc (talk) 09:52, 22 January 2025 (UTC)
- @Keivan.f Looking forward to knowing your opinion in the above discussion. MSincccc (talk) 13:49, 22 January 2025 (UTC)
- I have noticed that the same user has added Youtube links and potentially trivial information to Prince Harry's article as well. Given that you are a major author of the article, you might wish to take a look. Regards. MSincccc (talk) 10:40, 22 January 2025 (UTC)
- It can be added if it had acceptable sources (none of the ones listed above are). And perhaps it should also be incorporated into a section titled "Personal interests" because at the moment it does not fit into any of the existing sections. It would have been nice if there was info on his other literary interests though, something along the lines of the "Visual, performing, and literary arts" section on Charles III's article. You can try and see what you can find. Keivan.fTalk 14:22, 21 January 2025 (UTC)
- @Keivan.f A user has been trying to insert details about Catherine's photography incident in the Public opinion section despite the same information being covered in the Privacy and media section. Please take a look into it. Regards. MSincccc (talk) 01:03, 20 January 2025 (UTC)
- Kate - A Biography of Kate Middleton; The Ancestry of Catherine Middleton; Kate: The Making of a Princess; Kate: A Biography; Kate: The Future Queen. These are some of the acceptable ones. Keivan.fTalk 06:38, 17 January 2025 (UTC)
References
- ^ CNN: UK:PRINCE WILLIAM AT HOBBIT PREMIERE. Retrieved 2025-01-21 – via YouTube.
- ^ Baker, Marc (2014-04-19). "Prince William HOOKED on the Hobbit and Lord of the Rings says star Martin Freeman". The Mirror. Retrieved 2025-01-21.
- ^ "Prince William, Kate and the kids paid secret visit to set of Amazon Prime show". The US Sun. 2023-02-15. Retrieved 2025-01-21.
@Keivan.f Would you mind including extracts/quotes from this news report by Camilla Tominey for The Daily Telegraph in the aforementioned article?
- Link-[3]
MSincccc (talk) 06:19, 23 January 2025 (UTC)
- @Keivan.f This is the link to the archived version of the above article. Please do let me know of your thoughts on this after you have gone through it. Regards. MSincccc (talk) 18:28, 23 January 2025 (UTC)
- It's too subjective to go in the section that specifically discusses the court cases but combined with other sources that discuss the settlement (either negatively or positively) you would be able to add a little bit to the "public image" section and explain how his legal fights have shaped people's perception of him. I'd say you could give it a try. Keivan.fTalk 21:19, 23 January 2025 (UTC)