Template:Did you know nominations/KYUR
- The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was: promoted by SL93 talk 21:51, 8 February 2025 (UTC)
KYUR
- ... that the founder of an Alaska TV station died less than three months after its first broadcast in the Anchorage area's first fatal snowmobile accident? Source: https://www.genealogybank.com/newspaper-clippings/outing-fatal-bill-harpel-snowmobile-accident-claims-khar-owner/kgxrrrapcfoyjvlktmgfxixgityqbabr_ip-10-166-46-161_1724118990965
- ALT1: ... that Alaska's SuperStation wasn't so Super to the Alaskan Bush? Source: https://www.genealogybank.com/newspaper-clippings/abc-affiliates-keep-super-bowl-states-rural-network/yjbjdjxzvnyojtzpczxebhukwhgbejll_ip-10-166-46-114_1724124995724
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Cloak n Dagger
- Comment: ALT1 could conceivably run Feb. 9 late or 10 early for the Super Bowl
Improved to Good Article status by Sammi Brie (talk).
Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 737 past nominations.
Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 07:36, 13 January 2025 (UTC).
- The article is a newly-promoted GA and meets requirements for length and close paraphrasing. A QPQ has been provided, but the given review forgot to check for inline citation (only that it was "in the article"), so that will need correction. Not exactly a DYK issue, but the provided review also gave a green tick, even though my understanding of the situation is that it should be at least a question tick since there's an unresolved concern regarding the blue links. KBYR-TV never being built needs a citation. Both of the hooks are cited inline and verified, but ALT1 is very confusing, and would probably baffle non-American readers, so I would suggest going with the first hook. It is a "first" hook, but given contemporary reports say so, it probably satisfies the burden of proof requirement here. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 02:58, 15 January 2025 (UTC)
- Let me respond to each of these, Narutolovehinata5.KBYR-TV drops off the table right after they get the permit, as in by the end of 1960. I can't find proof of the permit being deleted, which is unusual. I've reworded to be a little clearer while still having an inline citation. (The fact Anchorage still lacked a "third" TV station by the mid-60s indicates that channel 13 never got going.)I felt that the linking issue, not affecting verbiage or the hook fact itself but merely linking, is not something that should forestall approval; I added a comment there.ALT1 would really be a quirky, but with the Super Bowl within a month, it might fit there, or it could be rewritten like this:ALT1a: ... that Alaska's SuperStation withheld broadcast of two Super Bowls to the Alaskan Bush? Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 04:58, 15 January 2025 (UTC)
- Frankly, I don't think this Super Bowl angle is working out, especially when there's a more interesting alternative already proposed. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 12:02, 15 January 2025 (UTC)
- Comment — The main hook kind of borders on word salad. More importantly, the GAN reviewer raised concerns about whether the manner of Bill Harpel's death is really so relevant to the overall context that it merits such a prominent mention. Choosing to ignore that advice and finding another venue to push it further confirms what I said about this being a hat-collecting exercise, rather than a sincere attempt to collaborate with fellow editors who have also been involved with building this article over the years.
- The alt hook wins points for trying to be clever, but it also forces the reader to click on the article and read the whole thing in order to have the first clue of what it refers to. Items appearing on the Main Page should appeal to the broadest possible audience. A long-ago historical anomaly regarding television programming in a small handful of television markets sharing the same time zone may not be easily understood by a general audience no matter how hard you try. If you really want to go there, explaining the two-week tape delay might be a better way to go, since it had a much broader and longer-lasting impact on the station's history. RadioKAOS / Talk to me, Billy / Transmissions 16:13, 15 January 2025 (UTC)
- @RadioKAOS and Narutolovehinata5: I've gone to that well with KTNL-TV and a little less directly KUAC (FM) and WSZE-TV, so I am not going back there despite the well-intentioned suggestion. Let me try some new ALTs if you'd like, though ALT2 might be a bit BLP-issue-y: Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 20:04, 15 January 2025 (UTC)
- ALT2: ... that the mayor of Anchorage, Alaska, resigned after admitting to an "inappropriate messaging relationship" with a news anchor at a local TV station?
- ALT3: ... that an Alaska TV station used home movie cameras to shoot newsfilm?
- Thanks. I think we can go with ALT3 as an interesting hook, one that is cited inline, and verified in the linked newspaper clipping. ALT2 should be rejected on BLP grounds (and is probably too sensational for DYK anyway). Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 02:24, 16 January 2025 (UTC)
- @RadioKAOS and Narutolovehinata5: I've gone to that well with KTNL-TV and a little less directly KUAC (FM) and WSZE-TV, so I am not going back there despite the well-intentioned suggestion. Let me try some new ALTs if you'd like, though ALT2 might be a bit BLP-issue-y: Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 20:04, 15 January 2025 (UTC)