Talk:Phedimus spurius
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Plant systematics is in a state of flux. A more current name of this species is Phedimus spurius. --Ettrig (talk) 11:35, 1 July 2008 (UTC)
Did you know nomination
- ... that the Caucasian stonecrop is not always so white?
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Jingtai Emperor
- Comment: I do not quite dare mention the dominant race part...
Surtsicna (talk) 17:22, 3 February 2025 (UTC).
- Starting Review--Kevmin § 17:48, 7 February 2025 (UTC)
Article expansion new enough and long enough. Article fully cited, with sources represented neutrally. No copyvio or policy issues identified in spot checking. Question on the hook, would we have any expectation that the flowers of a plant from the Caucuses would be white in the first place?--Kevmin § 14:59, 9 February 2025 (UTC)
- @Surtsicna: courtesy ping--Kevmin
§ 16:08, 9 February 2025 (UTC)
- Oh, it's just a play on the word "Caucasian" being used to refer to White people. The stonecrop is Caucasian, but not always white 😁 I fall back on those when I can find nothing else that might attract an average reader. Surtsicna (talk) 16:58, 9 February 2025 (UTC)
- @Surtsicna: I suspected that might have been the case, but my brain usually connects words like Caucasian in plant names to geography and not to human ethnicity. How about a hook based on the flower frequency of white vrs red forms?--Kevmin § 15:27, 10 February 2025 (UTC)
- @Kevmin: I try to see hooks from an average reader's perspective, and I presume that an average reader would think of ethnicity first. I cannot think of a form hook that would appeal to a general audience. If you can, please let me know. Surtsicna (talk) 17:26, 10 February 2025 (UTC)
- @Surtsicna: I suspected that might have been the case, but my brain usually connects words like Caucasian in plant names to geography and not to human ethnicity. How about a hook based on the flower frequency of white vrs red forms?--Kevmin § 15:27, 10 February 2025 (UTC)
- Oh, it's just a play on the word "Caucasian" being used to refer to White people. The stonecrop is Caucasian, but not always white 😁 I fall back on those when I can find nothing else that might attract an average reader. Surtsicna (talk) 16:58, 9 February 2025 (UTC)
- @Surtsicna: How about Alt1 ... that the whiter the flower, the fewer flowers Caucasian stonecrop often has?--Kevmin § 17:00, 11 February 2025 (UTC)
- @Kevmin: There are a few problems with ALT1, and the biggest is that it is not what the article says ("generally less floriferous"). Surtsicna (talk) 17:38, 11 February 2025 (UTC)
- That is what the article says though, you wrote in the article
White-flowered varieties of P. spurius are generally less floriferous
(floriferous=bearing flowers. especially : blooming freely -Per Merriam Webster) To the reader, this fully implies that darker pink-red flowered specimens will typically produce MORE flowers, as there has to be a more for there to be a less floriferous White in the first place. Does the source itself say different, and if so, what wording should be at the article and why does your prose state otherwise?--Kevmin § 19:35, 11 February 2025 (UTC)
- That is what the article says though, you wrote in the article
- @Kevmin: There are a few problems with ALT1, and the biggest is that it is not what the article says ("generally less floriferous"). Surtsicna (talk) 17:38, 11 February 2025 (UTC)