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"Legends": Edwin Kelly, Charlie Peterson (pool player) (all BCA Hall of Famers); George Franklin Slosson, Maurice Daly (billiards player), Frank Ives, George Butler Sutton [not George H. Sutton, the one with no hands]
Male pool bios: Hsia Hui-kai
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Female carom bios: Aygen Berk Saygıner
Aristic pool bios: Nick Nikolaidis, Mark Dimick,Sebastian Giumelli, Eric Yow
Unranked in current pool but notable: Mike Eufemia, Shannon Daulton, Jimmy Reid (pool player) [speed pool champ], var. Mosconi Cup players
Non-player figures: Mitch Laurance, George Fels
Five-pins bios: Gustavo Zito
Organizations: Joss Tour
Events: WPA World Nine-ball Championships (pre-1997), BCA Open Nine-ball Championship, World 14.1 Continuous Championship, International Challenge of Champions (pool)
Media and misc.: Iwan Simonis (leading billiard cloth maker), Joss Cues (major cue mfr.), The Baron and the Kid [Johnny Cash film], Ultimate Pool Party [TV show]
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Meta: Outline of cue sports (OoK; cf. [1], etc.) – presently redirects to Cue sports, but this is not an OoK page.
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Cleanup : Thomas Engert, Marlon Manalo
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Restoration

I have restored some content to the article, because the content is sourced to NPR, and also in part because the content removal created grammar errors. North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 21:18, 7 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I feel that it is unique that the establishment serves its burgers only on wax paper, which is a rather rare way to serve food. It is also a bit of unique local yore, which is likely of interest to readers. As such, I have restored this content to the article. I have also added more sources to the article. North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 21:51, 7 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
any evidence on how rare that is? DGG ( talk ) 02:14, 9 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Kind of a moot point; the article doesn't make a rarity claim, and the association of that serving style with the place is reliably sourced. I don't see it as crucial, but if NPR thought it as completel characteristic of the place in the public mind, I'm not inclined to delete it, for the same reason we retain mention of the Manx cat as emblematic of the Isle of Man at the latter, even though this cat breed has had no demonstrable impact on the country's economy, history, etc. It's "trivia" in the same sense as Winona Ryder's parents names are in her bio article; it's not integral to notability, but it's not trivial in the WP-particular sense governed by WP:NOT#INDISCRIMINATE. — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ >^ʌⱷ҅_ᴥⱷ^ʌ< 10:18, 9 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
I'm unhappy with the loss of the cue sports information; the details on this being a snooker and carom billiards (in the US, where both are rare) as well as pool venue were important from that perspective; not everyone cares about this as a restaurant/bar article. — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ >^ʌⱷ҅_ᴥⱷ^ʌ< 13:22, 8 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I copy edited to restore the content, which is now verified with a reliable source. North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 14:11, 8 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Huzzah! — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ >^ʌⱷ҅_ᴥⱷ^ʌ< 14:12, 8 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Promotion

Northamerica1000, hi, I came across this article when looking for cue sports adjacent articles to look to promote to GA status. I've done a bit of cleanup. Do you have any issues if I do a bit more research and then nominate for GAN? No problems if not. It's interesting it's had so much press about it's food, even recently. Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 18:31, 6 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Lee Vilenski − Go for it, and thanks for the message. North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 10:11, 16 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

GA Review

Passed. — Ghost River 17:38, 12 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

This review is transcluded from Talk:Booches/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Nominator: Lee Vilenski (talk · contribs) 23:51, 22 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Reviewer: GhostRiver (talk · contribs) 21:13, 6 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, I'm GhostRiver. I'll be reviewing this article against the good article criteria. By doing so, I am earning points for the WikiCup and the January 2025 GAN Backlog Drive. Although a quid pro quo review is not necessary, it is appreciated. You can see what open good article nominations I have here.

I will go through the article section by section checking it against the criteria. Once I have finished my review, I will place the article on hold, giving you seven days to respond. If you need more time, just reach out! While I'll always put the article on hold once it's ready for you to look at, you may start making changes before I complete my review. — Ghost River 21:13, 6 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Criteria: 1a. prose () 1b. MoS () 2a. ref layout () 2b. cites WP:RS () 2c. no WP:OR () 2d. no WP:CV ()

3a. broadness () 3b. focus () 4. neutral () 5. stable () 6a. free or tagged images () 6b. pics relevant ()

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Infobox and lede

Split up first two sentences like so for better flow: Booches is a bar, restaurant, and pool hall on 9th Street in downtown Columbia, Missouri. Established in 1884, it is the oldest pool hall in Columbia.
Both USA Today and Sports Illustrated should be italicized as names of publications
The full address (100 S. Ninth St.) should be included in the infobox and in the body

Overview

Is it 9th Street or Ninth Street? Consistency
- Done Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 00:19, 12 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
"Booches is named after its founder, Paul Blucher ~~"Booch"~~ Venable, who was nicknamed "Booch""
- Cool Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 00:19, 12 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The restaurant has gone through many owners in its time, being a male-only establishment until the 1970s. These two thoughts seem unrelated. The male-only bit seems to flow better with the racial segregation in the next sentence.
- I've combined those bits instead. Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 00:19, 12 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The "male-only until the 1970s" statement also does not line up with the source, which just says it "used to be gentlemen only" but doesn't give a timeline.
- I'll just remove the date. There's bits about it "being in the same state since the 1970s" which I think lead to the confusion. Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 00:19, 12 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Being nitpicky: the lede specifies that the Boone County Historical Society inducted Booches into its HoF, but the society is not named in the body at all.
- Changed. Good spot! Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 00:19, 12 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Given that it's now a bar, it feels important to note that Booches started serving alcohol in 1982 (CBT source)
- Added Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 00:19, 12 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

In popular culture

Should probably link University of Missouri basketball to Missouri Tigers men's basketball
- Done Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 00:19, 12 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

References and links

Ref 4 (Columbia Daily Tribune) is broken, use this link
Ref 11 is also broken, couldn't find a replacement link
Ref 16 is broken, try this [7]
Ref 16 (Rock M Nation) is missing an access date
"stltoday.com" in Ref 9 should be St. Louis Post-Dispatch
- These should all be covered now. Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 00:24, 12 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

General comments

No stability concerns, nominator has been heavily involved
Two relevant photos, both properly licensed
Earwig score looks good, all proper names / phrases

Putting this one on hold. Best of luck! — Ghost River 21:42, 6 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hi @GhostRiver and @Lee Vilenski, I fixed some of the points such as wikilinking, sentence formats, and references. You may strike them out if it's good. Ping me for any concerns. RFNirmala (talk) 05:58, 9 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

all seems fine. I shall work my way through. Thanks for your review. Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 00:04, 12 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

GhostRiver. Should be covered now. :) Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 00:24, 12 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks to both for making those changes! Passing now. — Ghost River 17:38, 12 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

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