Wikipedia:WikiProject Deletion sorting/News media
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News media
- Patrick Bet-David (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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This page was already deleted in June 2024 as it failed to meet WP:GNG. Somebody has recreated it in November 2024. Edit: having read the new sources, I am not convinced there is sufficient coverage to meet GNG. The Spectator source seems to be the only one with a focus on him, and it’s reliability seems questionable. Other editors may like to evaluate. Zenomonoz (talk) 08:13, 13 December 2024 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: People, Businesspeople, News media, and Entertainment. Zenomonoz (talk) 08:13, 13 December 2024 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Iran-related deletion discussions. Spiderone(Talk to Spider) 11:09, 13 December 2024 (UTC)
- Comment: This was passed through the WP:AFC process[1] and WP:G4 presumably doesn't apply.
This doesn't mean a guaranteed keep, but it does mean that the nomination should be closed as Speedy Keep WP:SKCRIT#3 (unless Zenomonoz can update their nom with an proper rationale ref WP:DEL-REASON before someone gets to it)~Hydronium~Hydroxide~(Talk)~ 13:06, 13 December 2024 (UTC)- Have updated. Thanks. Zenomonoz (talk) 02:17, 14 December 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks - struck. Pinging AFC reviewer Grahaml35 for comment. ~Hydronium~Hydroxide~(Talk)~ 02:29, 14 December 2024 (UTC)
- Also pinging Snowman304 for comment, who rejected Avaldcast's initial draft for this article. Zenomonoz (talk) 04:21, 14 December 2024 (UTC)
- Please reiterate what the problem with the article is again?
- Notability and source reliability (original issue) was addressed after it went article creation process and was approved.
- Is the issue that it was deleted, improved and then re-approved? Avaldcast (talk) 04:30, 14 December 2024 (UTC)
- Also pinging Snowman304 for comment, who rejected Avaldcast's initial draft for this article. Zenomonoz (talk) 04:21, 14 December 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks - struck. Pinging AFC reviewer Grahaml35 for comment. ~Hydronium~Hydroxide~(Talk)~ 02:29, 14 December 2024 (UTC)
- Have updated. Thanks. Zenomonoz (talk) 02:17, 14 December 2024 (UTC)
- Delete: Same as the last two AfD, non-notable business person with passing mentions in sources. Being a podcaster isn't notable in 2024. I'd SALT at this point, three times in AfD is more than enough. Oaktree b (talk) 16:16, 13 December 2024 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: California and Florida. Skynxnex (talk) 17:14, 13 December 2024 (UTC)
- There was claims that the sources were not reliable but as this individual has become more notable, more reliable sources have been published. Therefore being approved despite being deleted. Avaldcast (talk) 01:57, 14 December 2024 (UTC)
- Keep : Patrick Bet-David played a notable role in the 2024 presidential election discourse by hosting significant figures such as Donald Trump on his podcast tour. His platform, Valuetainment, served as a space for Trump to engage with his base and discuss campaign messaging, drawing millions of views and contributing to public conversations about the election. Bet-David’s interviews with Trump and other political figures have been widely covered in reliable sources like Vanity Fair and The Spectator, highlighting his influence in political media. This demonstrates that Bet-David is a public figure of notability, with substantial impact on contemporary political dialogue. Avaldcast (talk) 02:32, 14 December 2024 (UTC)
- Keep per Avaldcast. ChopinAficionado (talk) 21:26, 15 December 2024 (UTC)
- Delete Please see my comments in the last AfD for source evaluation. Nothing has changed none of this new coverage is specifically about David, but only mentions him in passing, and the majority of sourcing is from self-published sources like podcasts which are not indicative of notability. Hemiauchenia (talk) 02:19, 16 December 2024 (UTC)
- The Sussex Newspaper (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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I'm failing to find any coverage of this online newspaper in reliable sources. I therefore don't believe it satisfies WP:NNEWSPAPER, WP:NWEB or WP:GNG. While claims about it being the fastest growing
(from the article) or the most popular
(from their website) online newspaper in Sussex
sound impresive my WP:BEFORE turned up no independent in depth coverage to corroborate. Cakelot1 ☞️ talk 11:08, 10 December 2024 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: News media, Websites, United Kingdom, and England. Cakelot1 ☞️ talk 11:08, 10 December 2024 (UTC)
- Delete, cannot even find an about page, apparently able to submit own articles. IgelRM (talk) 02:53, 11 December 2024 (UTC)
- Delete as totally unverifiable, entirely unnotable and highly misleading. As a lifelong Sussex resident who is familiar with the county's published and online newspapers, alarm bells were already ringing when I saw this nomination and the claims being made in the article. In reality it seems to be a vanity site with a mix of churnalism and trashy stories scraped from the web, with absolutely no Sussex focus at all, and is not covered by any reliable sources. Hassocks5489 (Floreat Hova!) 11:45, 11 December 2024 (UTC)
- Delete agreed with above - no indication of notability of this den of churnalism. ResonantDistortion 23:23, 13 December 2024 (UTC)
- Delete - Concur with the points raised above. In addition, the article reads as promotional and highly subjective. Dunarc (talk) 23:45, 14 December 2024 (UTC)
- The Lance (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Does not meet notability requirements. There is nothing in the article to establish notability of this student newspaper, and there is no coverage in non-local sources. Note that The Lance published its last newspaper issue in 2019. The official website (which was updated in a 2020 edit) is for a student news blog with the same name. Johnj1995 (talk) 03:40, 8 December 2024 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: News media and Canada. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 06:34, 8 December 2024 (UTC)
- Delete No reason for this to be kept. This0k (talk) 18:49, 13 December 2024 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Relisting, not eligible for a Soft Deletion.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 07:59, 15 December 2024 (UTC)
- GTV Network (Pakistan) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Non-notable local TV station. Lacks independent coverage that addresses the topic directly and in detail. Fails WP:GNG. Gheus (talk) 15:13, 3 December 2024 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Television and Pakistan. Shellwood (talk) 15:40, 3 December 2024 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of News media-related deletion discussions. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 19:46, 3 December 2024 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 08:50, 10 December 2024 (UTC)
- Redirect to List_of_news_channels_in_Pakistan#Current_channels: if the sources are judged insufficient for a dedicated page. -Mushy Yank. 18:53, 10 December 2024 (UTC)
- SUCH TV (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Regulatory actions/penalties like this and this are enough to pass WP:NCORP. Gheus (talk) 15:38, 3 December 2024 (UTC)
I've nominated this article under WP:NCORP as it is a for-profit media company. Regulatory actions or penalties like this and this are WP:ROUTINE news articles and come under WP:ORGTRIV. We need WP:SUBSTANTIAL coverage that direct and in-depth about this company. Otherwise, it clearly fails WP:GNG and WP:CORPDEPTH. Thank you. Gheus (talk) 12:23, 5 December 2024 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Television and Pakistan. Shellwood (talk) 15:39, 3 December 2024 (UTC)
- Keep: The nom seems to want to keep the article and the sourcing is fine. The ones used in the article and above count as RS. What was the issue, why was this nominated for deletion? Oaktree b (talk) 17:28, 3 December 2024 (UTC)
- No, I don't want to keep the article - I have corrected my nom rationale. Gheus (talk) 12:24, 5 December 2024 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of News media-related deletion discussions. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 19:46, 3 December 2024 (UTC)
- Procedural keep Please elaborate on a reason for deletion, Gheus. Nate • (chatter) 00:34, 4 December 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you for noting the mistake, Nate. I have updated my reasoning. Gheus (talk) 12:25, 5 December 2024 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Relisting for the discussion on the rationale provided now.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, — Benison (Beni · talk) 17:34, 10 December 2024 (UTC)
- Redirect to List_of_news_channels_in_Pakistan#Current_channels -Mushy Yank. 21:02, 10 December 2024 (UTC)
- Public News (Pakistan) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Non-notable news channel, coverage is mostly related to its founder Yousaf Baig Mirza. Fails WP:GNG. Gheus (talk) 15:46, 3 December 2024 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: News media, Television, and Pakistan. Shellwood (talk) 18:16, 3 December 2024 (UTC)
- Redirect to List_of_television_channels_in_Pakistan#Urdu_news -Mushy Yank. 20:52, 9 December 2024 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, — Benison (Beni · talk) 17:32, 10 December 2024 (UTC)
- Pakistan Observer (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Non-notable newspaper, coverage is mostly related to its founder, Zahid Malik. Fails WP:NCORP. I suggest to delete this article and then redirect to The Bangladesh Observer which was once a notable newspaper known as Pakistan Observer in Pakistan but was later renamed after East Pakistan independence. Gheus (talk) 16:07, 3 December 2024 (UTC)
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Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 08:54, 10 December 2024 (UTC)
- Abb Takk News (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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The best source about this TV station is of Reporters Without Borders' article, but unfortunately it is very brief and says that this channel is known for "copying Indian TV channel ‘AajTakk’ down to its logo and most graphic designs." This is not enough to pass WP:NCORP which requires multiple in-depth articles in independent sources. Gheus (talk) 15:41, 3 December 2024 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: News media, Television, and Pakistan. Shellwood (talk) 18:14, 3 December 2024 (UTC)
- Redirect to List_of_television_channels_in_Pakistan#Urdu_news -Mushy Yank. 20:53, 9 December 2024 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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- Cristo Foufas (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Article deleted in 2010, failed PROD in 2021. Sources exist, as added in that PROD of 2021, but article is not nearly notable enough for inclusion. LR.127 (talk) 16:28, 25 November 2024 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: News media, Television, and United Kingdom. LR.127 (talk) 16:28, 25 November 2024 (UTC)
- Keep: Probably have enough for a basic article. This Independent article is the best [2], then some coverage [3] and [4]. Seems to be well-known to the viewing public. Oaktree b (talk) 16:43, 25 November 2024 (UTC)
- Keep per oaktree b. Cooldudeseven7 join in on the tea talk 17:24, 25 November 2024 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Relisting for the source eval for the ones by Oaktree. More input from community is appreciated since the article was PROD'd and AFD'd earlier.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, — Benison (Beni · talk) 16:47, 2 December 2024 (UTC)
- Delete. Thanks to Oaktree b for digging up those sources, but I don't think there's enough for notability - he came out live on air, posted something controversial on Twitter and once had a bad experience with British Airways. Fails WP:JOURNALIST. Astaire (talk) 19:52, 2 December 2024 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 23:24, 9 December 2024 (UTC)
Proposed deletions
- Paul Ingles (via WP:PROD on 22 January 2024)