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Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 December 7

This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on December 7, 2024.

2025 ACC Championship Game

No mention in target article. Contest a year away and not yet notable. Blethering Scot 22:44, 7 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per above and per WP:NOTCRYSTALBALL. 67.209.128.31 (talk) 04:45, 9 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. The 2024 ACC Championship Game already concluded, and this is one year away. Abhiramakella (talk) 21:08, 13 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

2025 Mountain West Conference Football Championship Game

No notable mention in target article and contest is a year away. Blethering Scot 22:43, 7 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per above. 67.209.128.31 (talk) 04:47, 9 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

2025 Abu Dhabi T10

Future event not discussed at target. Blethering Scot 22:33, 7 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

April 31

The only reasoning for this appears to be "Java (specifically the java.util.Calendar class) allows dates such as February 0 (= January 31) and April 31 (= March 1)." The problem is that that particular class in Java seems to accept any integer for the date. I tested "April 366" which showed up as March 31 of the next year. The internet does say that there is a reference to "April 31" in the The Long Walk by Stephen King, but it is purposely supposed to be a fictional date, even within that universe. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 06:47, 28 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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It seems the current target page talk wasn't notified. Web-julio (talk) 01:43, 16 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Nightb***h (film)

Wikipedia is not censored. Name of film is simply nightbitch, and therefore redirect is an unlikely search term. Blethering Scot 22:03, 7 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep we usually don't house "censored" redirects, and especially not those that aren't commonly used and have one ghit but since the one hit was from The Daily Mail which is very widely-read we should keep this Someone-123-321 (I contribute, Talk page so SineBot will shut up) 02:51, 8 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per nom's statement. 67.209.128.31 (talk) 04:51, 9 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
delete as implausible censoring. just say "b*tch" if you're that worried about the fuck words. of course, this means i'd consider "nightb*tch (film)" to be a plausible redirect cogsan (nag me) (stalk me) 11:21, 9 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete can't realistically assume anyone, even the most naïve person, not knowing what the missing word is and searching to find out more of this item they had to self-censor. Andrzejbanas (talk) 19:20, 9 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Nightb***h

Book title is not censored and full name is Nightbitch. Wikipedia is also not censored. Blethering Scot 22:02, 7 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per nom's statement. 67.209.128.31 (talk) 04:52, 9 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
delete as implausible censoring. just say "b*tch" if you're that worried about the fuck words. of course, this means i'd consider "nightb*tch" to be a plausible redirect. don't you hate it when your stay at home wife sometimes transforms into a dog? that happened to my buddy eric once, and his week was ruined cogsan (nag me) (stalk me) 11:22, 9 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I wouldn't consider "b***h" to be implausible though Someone-123-321 (I contribute, Talk page so SineBot will shut up) 11:24, 9 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
it certainly is on the more niche side of censorings. maybe down there with "fu*k" and "a*s" cogsan (nag me) (stalk me) 11:58, 9 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
fu*k has a redirect, so it's not really obscure Someone-123-321 (I contribute, Talk page so SineBot will shut up) 12:17, 9 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
ow my consonants cogsan (nag me) (stalk me) 12:24, 9 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep - Plausible censoring. Wikipedia is not censored, but a redirect is not content, it's a navigation aid. The fact that wikipedia is not censored doesn't mean our users necessarily know that, or that they won't self-censor themselves, or copy a search term from someone else who does. WP:CHEAP applies. Fieari (talk) 23:16, 9 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Female youtuber

Gender an unlikely additional search term for a YouTuber. Blethering Scot 22:00, 7 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete listing female youtubers and categorizing them is WikiTubia's job nevermind, wikitubia apparantly doesn't categorize youtuber's by gender? i just tried it with Jaiden, couldn't find a link to something like Category:Female youtubers Someone-123-321 (I contribute, Talk page so SineBot will shut up) 03:06, 8 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per WP:GENDER and WP:NPOV. 67.209.128.31 (talk) 04:55, 9 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
create an article about viva reverie, retarget to her as she is the only female youtuber to have ever existed ever (besides all the others), and then delete per nom and someone. steps 1 and 2 are optional cogsan (nag me) (stalk me) 20:17, 9 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

BlueSky

Arguing that BlueSky should be a WP:PRIMARYREDIRECT to Bluesky (BlueSky → Blue Sky) given a lot of people think the S is capitalized. The Wikinav data at the current DAB page target shows that clearly the majority of users expect to navigate to the social media platform. Raladic (talk) 20:01, 7 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

List of canonizations

Per discussion at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of saints. Absolutiva (talk) 19:27, 7 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Keep After reviewing the AfD, I don't see any reason to delete the redirect. It's just been retargeted to the new list of lists. - Presidentman talk · contribs (Talkback) 21:52, 7 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep. Hi. I created a page with this name 19 years ago, which apparently is reason to leave me a boilerplate message notifying me of this discussion. I'll level with you here. I cannot remember why precisely I created this page under the name list of canonizations rather than list of saints. I think it might have been to keep the scope down, originally? Ultimately though my original intent doesn't matter. But there is a perfectly good edit history spanning over a decade for this page, whereas, Lists of saints? That was created in November. Like, last month. Since List of canonizations has been apparently a good enough article name to have spanned until 2020, when it was redirected to List of saints, I think there might be some cause to believe that we should not remove the redirect from this URL, which has remained valid for 14 years, along with its entire edit history. Morwen (talk) 02:42, 8 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep per Presidentman. NLeeuw (talk) 20:15, 9 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep - An article being deleted is not rationale to delete a redirect. AfD and RfD are completely different processes with entirely different criteria. This is a valid redirect. Fieari (talk) 23:21, 9 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

List of canonized saints

Per discussion at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of saints. Absolutiva (talk) 19:26, 7 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Barotrauma and Wind turbines

"barotrauma" refers to damage caused by air pressure differences. while pretty unique to bats since their lungs are held together with thoughts and prayers, it's not exclusive to them. granted, getting sent to the shadow realm due to barotrauma from the low-pressure areas just behind the blades of wind turbines is a little more closely associated with bats, but it's not what the redirect's wording necessarily implies cogsan (nag me) (stalk me) 12:31, 22 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Keep - the intersection of the two topics is unique to bats - other animals that it's thought are impacted by wind farms are harmed by impact damage flying into them, not pressure damage from being near them. This is covered in detail at the target. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 17:42, 22 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Retarget per Synpath · · · Peter Southwood (talk): 09:33, 8 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Fado (character)

Not mentioned in target. QuicoleJR (talk) 03:01, 23 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Comment Fado is indirectly mentioned in the passage Tetra remains in the castle while Link and the King journey to the two sages who provided the Master Sword's power. They discover Ganon's forces murdered them both (which includes Fado). Maybe a mention could be added but I am doubtful. Ca talk to me! 08:53, 23 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I don't think that's good enough for the redirect to target there, since he isn't mentioned by name. QuicoleJR (talk) 23:57, 30 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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State of Palestine'

self-explanatory Ca talk to me! 15:01, 7 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete A "stray" apostrophe is fine for the possessive case of plural nouns that end with "s", none of which describe Palestine Someone-123-321 (I contribute, Talk page so SineBot will shut up) 02:56, 8 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Exterminate over QE:NONCOMMON.[hyperbole]
Actual text
Delete per WP:UNNATURAL.
67.209.128.31 (talk) 05:04, 9 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete because of WP:RCOM'...
    Oh..... the apostrophe is right next to the Enter key; maybe you could accidentally just press in between the Enter and ' keys?
    So it's not WP:RCOM here but WP:PANDORA; for this may lead others to believe that there are redirects everywhere for this. Legitimate reason for this, but still Delete. Kxeon (talk) 02:00, 13 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

"Israel"

Unnatural redirect. There is no reason to put the country's name in quotes unless in a pejorative sense. Ca talk to me! 15:00, 7 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

"Delete" Prior consensus (which for the life of me I can't find) dictates that unless the thing in question is officially stylized in quotes that a redirect surrounded in quotes should be deleted Someone-123-321 (I contribute, Talk page so SineBot will shut up) 03:09, 8 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete as alt-right POV pushing. 67.209.128.31 (talk) 05:06, 9 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Per WP:UNNATURAL RealStranger43286 (talk) 05:36, 9 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per nom. Myrealnamm's Alternate Account (talk) 14:14, 11 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. "WP:UNNATURAL"; plus why even have "this" in the first "place"?
"This" "redirect" shouldn't exist, "nobody" will ever do "this"; even if "they" do find it on the "internet"; "they" wouldn't be typing it into "Wikipedia" like "this". Kxeon (talk) 02:12, 13 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

三州府

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The result of the discussion was No consensus * Pppery * it has begun... 01:09, 14 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

There's two possible targets for 三州府: Straits Settlements and Suong. 三州府 is an old alternative Chinese-language name Straits Settlements, and 三州府市 (三州府 + city) is the name historically and currently used by Chinese-speakers and Chinese Cambodians people for Suong. The Chinese Wikipedia has chosen to solve this with a disambiguation page zh:三州府, so this term seemingly cannot be tied very strongly to one article. I'm not seeing how we could create a local policy-compliant dab page. Given the very high bar needed to have a non-English redirect page, we should probably delete this. GreenLipstickLesbian (talk) 20:22, 29 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Keep Cambodia is not a Chinese language subject. But the Straits Settlements are due to the high Chinese population of the region. Thus regardless of what Chinese Wikipedia does, on English Wikipedia, the only subject with affinity for Chinese is the Straits Settlements, and not Suong, Cambodia. -- 65.92.246.77 (talk) 12:11, 30 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    • Update I stand corrected on the status of Chinese in Suong, being that there is a large population of such in Suong; therefore I recommend that this page be disambiguated per WP:CJKV {{Chinese title disambiguation}} and create a WP:2DAB like that on Chinese Wikipedia because both locations have large Chinese populations and both locations have carried this Chinese name. ;; So either Keep as is and hatnote Suong, or disambiguate -- 65.92.246.77 (talk) 22:08, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep per the ip editor. A hatnote can be added if really desired, but I don't think it is required. Thryduulf (talk) 13:21, 30 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment, per the Chinese Wikipedia article for Suong, Cambodia, 80 per cent of the population in the city are of Chinese ethnicity, so the above rationale might not be valid. However, it doesn't appear to be cited properly (the current source does not provide such information). If there is some related reliable source found, then perhaps a dab, otherwise keep. Sun8908Talk 15:40, 30 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Anecdotal evidence- I mean if we compare the length and detail of the zhWiki article to the Khmer article, I wouldn't be surprised if the statement that 80% of the population are Sino-Khmer turns out to be true. Baidu Baike(keeping in mind WP:BAIDU and all) also repeats the statistic, citing it to what looks to be an offline database. (@Sun8908, does it look obviously unreliable in this case?)
    But back to the matter at hand- Wiktionary lists the Cambodian city first, emphasizing that the usage of 三州府 is "historical". Again, uncited, but I googled and the Promote Mandarin Council (in Singapore) seemingly confirms this, writing that the name was used most in the early days. The Cantonese Wikipedia lists their (unsourced) article for the Straits Settlement under the name 三洲府, but zhWiki only mentions once that it's an unofficial name. Our own article doesn't mention the name at all. It's clearly not a clear-cut matter.
    When I google "三洲府", my own results are pretty evenly split between the city and the settlement, which I think is why the editors on zhWiki chose to make a dab page in the end. They seemed to have the opposite problem as us, actually, with their initial redirect pointing, for four years, to the article about Suong. I'm not suggesting we should follow them, I'm just pointing out that there is unlikely to be a dominant topic. I suppose if somebody wants to make a dab page, they could, I suppose? Three States is a direct translation, and already a dab page, but I don't think we really make dab pages for direct translations where the direct translation is not used in English. A dab for the direct transliteration might be better, if anybody wants to make one? I'm not convinced it would aid people trying to navigate the English Wikipedia, but I suppose it wouldn't be harmful. A hatnote could be a solution, but I'm not sure how useful non-English/Latin hatnotes for unofficial names are.
    On a personal note, this is why WP:RLOTE based on unofficial nicknames can be problematic- the predominant argument to keep is that Suong, Cambodia has no affinity with the Chinese language. GreenLipstickLesbian (talk) 21:27, 30 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Just want you to note that we indeed have dab pages with Chinese characters as title. We could do that if it turns out there isn't a main article between the two entries. That being said, a main article should be decided with the likeliness that English speaker would more likely want to search. I think there are Chinese-language newspapers in Cambodia using that name to refer to the Cambodian city, so it might worth a dab. Sun8908Talk 05:24, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Sorry I missed reading the reliability of the source on Baidu Baike. I am not familiar with the site but I cannot see a link for that citation. I cannot search any useful information about the database / centre by simply searching on Baidu or Google. (Note: there seems to be a lot of database with a similar name, I don't know which to look for) However, that citation seems to be used by a lot of articles on Baidu Baike. Unfortunately, only verified users can see the edit history, so I cannot get any further information from there. I don't feel like it is particularly useful as I cannot find information about the database / centre. Sun8908Talk 11:25, 5 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Legends Drum and Bugle Corps

Does not appear at target article. Bgsu98 (Talk) 09:31, 7 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Comment: I removed it from the target page since it no longer fits the criteria of the list (i.e., a multiple-time finalist in the World Class division). However, I would not be opposed to keeping it purely to preserve the page history. Why? I Ask (talk) 09:38, 7 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Buxamina

These appear to at best be very obscure trade names for the target drug. Gamalate and Diastal appear to refer to different drugs. Buxamina may be the Spanish version of Buxamine, but there is no special affinity for Spanish related to the target. Delete all. Mdewman6 (talk) 04:17, 7 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Entomb

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was retarget to Tomb. (non-admin closure) Skarmory (talk • contribs) 07:39, 14 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Burial does not have any content about entombment per se; the most is a brief mention of immurement. The article's scope, per its lede sentence, is "a method of final disposition whereby a dead body is placed into the ground", whereas Wiktionary defines entomb as "To deposit in a tomb". Which, hey, we have an article on! So I suggest a retarget to tomb. Failing that, I would say we should move Entombment (disambiguation) to the base title. -- Tamzin[cetacean needed] (they|xe|🤷) 02:29, 7 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Greg peg

Not mentioned in target; originally created via suspected promotional content added to target Jalen Barks (Woof) 02:12, 7 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete Oh boy this one is a doozy.
So, this was created in 2020 as a redirect to Patiala peg but as early as 2021 different(?) IPs keep on editing this to a unsourced stub about a specific Patiala peg type/brand(?) in Punjab. A war between Renamed user 7z42t3k8qj (who was continually editing the redirect to turn back into a redir, the only reason I'm not pinging them is because they've been inactive since 2021) and IPs were going on until this revision when it was stopped and it seemed like 7z4 won.
Until 200 weeks and 2 days (!) later, when the IP suddenly remembered they have a unsourced stub to maintain. Then, since 7z4 was inactive and has been for over 200 weeks at that point @Frost (who I am pinging because they're obviously still active) took 7z4's place. This IP rev decided to add their current menu (in INR, may I add?) to their ideal version of the Greg peg article until nom stepped in and did their role.
IP, noticing their pet article was under RfD decided to remove the tag without discussion, which was noticed and reverted by nom. That is, until IP strikes back with this rev which is mostly similar to the earlier one except the menu is in code this time. Finally, nom reverted this article to it's current state.
TLDR; some dude in Punjab wanted to advertise their beer(?) on Wikipedia and is still editing the article to this day.
why did i put more effort into writing this than i do with my school essays Someone-123-321 (I contribute, Talk page so SineBot will shut up) 03:58, 7 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Uncomfiness

Not a word Hexware (talk) 16:34, 5 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep "uncomfiness" is a word I do use from time to time. + the OED may not have an entry for "uncomf i ness" specifically but they do have entries for uncomfYness which is a one-letter difference Someone-123-321 (I contribute, Talk page so SineBot will shut up) 03:43, 7 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hallelujah night

Not mentioned at target, but is a term used in a least one book (Guadalcanal: The Definitive Account). However, Google results are all associated with a Christian alternative to Halloween, and the only use of the term on enwiki is in a reference at Halloween. Not sure what's best here, but the status quo is likely astonishing to at least some searchers. Mdewman6 (talk) 23:42, 29 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Wading bird(s)

Seems to me that these should point to the same target, possibly a disambiguation page. Cremastra ‹ u — c › 16:40, 29 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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