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The result of the discussion was speedy delete per author request. ✗plicit 12:44, 18 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Wikipedia:2319 → Wikipedia:Sockpuppetry  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: //delete ] 

What does this number have to do with sockpuppetry? 2A0E:1D47:9085:D200:79D6:90F3:422F:423D (talk) 22:05, 16 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete There are many IPv6 addresses that could contain 2319 (surrounded by a colon at one or both sides), none of which are more notable than all the others. Alternatively, that could be a futuristic vision of Wikipedia in the 24th century (in the year 2319). But Wikipedia is not a crystal ball, so there is no need for such a page about what Wikipedia would be like in the 24th century. GTrang (talk) 22:26, 16 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  Sockpuppetry, so futuristic, very destiny, much fate. 1234qwer1234qwer4 23:57, 16 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete. Per nom. And above. Hyperbolick (talk) 04:58, 17 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete per above unless someone can explain the connection and why this is helpful. Thryduulf (talk) 11:18, 17 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• It's apparently an in-joke from Monsters, Inc. - see for example here. —Cryptic 11:24, 17 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete It has no non-RfD transclusions other than a single use by its creator. As above commentators has shown, this redirect WP:ASTONISHes. This joke reference has not been ingrained to Wikipedia culture. Most editors would not expect this seemingly random number to redirect to sockpuppetry. Ca ^{talk to me!} 15:36, 17 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete no particular connection, 2319 is a redirect for the year. Crouch, Swale (talk) 18:10, 17 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete per above. I'm the creator. ––FormalDude (talk) 09:55, 18 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was keep Deichmann, Jonas, Jonas Deichman, and JonasDeichmann; delete the rest. Despite being close to WP:TRAINWRECK territory, a surprisingly easy-to-follow spectrum emerged: "Delete all" was supported by one participant (YannickFran). "Jay's set" to keep all but two is next, supported by three participants (Jay, Un assiolo, 1234qwer). "Mwwv's set" adds JonasDeichmann to keep, which, despite having no other direct support for this set, lands in the middle of the spectrum. "CFA's set" to keep everything except Jon/John was also supported by three participants (CFA, Thryduulf, Cremastra). Finally, "keep all" was implicitly supported by Småland, Sweden. In conclusion, from "delete all" to "keep all" on the spectrum, there is a nice symmetry of 1,3,1,3,1. Four participants support deleting more redirects than Mwwv's set and four participants support keeping more redirects than Mwwv's set. With no set having much stronger arguments than any of the others, I will carry out the median. -- Tavix ^(talk) 18:13, 8 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• JonasDeichmann → Jonas Deichmann  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: //delete ] 
• JONAS DEICHMANN → Jonas Deichmann  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: //delete ]
• Deichmann, Jonas → Jonas Deichmann  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: //delete ]
• John Deichmann → Jonas Deichmann  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: //delete ]
• Jon Deichman → Jonas Deichmann  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: //delete ]
• Jonas Deichman → Jonas Deichmann  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: //delete ]
• Jon Deichmann → Jonas Deichmann  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: //delete ]
• Jonasdeichmann → Jonas Deichmann  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: //delete ]

Deletion, 8 unnecessary and recently created redirects. YannickFran (talk) 20:12, 16 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep Deichmann, Jonas, Jonas Deichman, and JonasDeichmann, delete the rest. Keep the first three as {{R from sorting name}} and the others {{R from mispelling}} respectively. The rest are either not related (Jon Deichman, Jon Deichmann, and John Deichmann), implausible typos (Jonasdeichmann), or unneeded capitalization (JONAS DEICHMANN). mwwv ^converse∫_edits 21:40, 16 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  I'm not sure how the spacing in "JonasDeichmann" is not WP:UNNATURAL. 1234qwer1234qwer4 23:50, 16 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep all except Jon Deichmann, Jon Deichman and John Deichmann. C F A 💬 22:19, 16 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Comment. Since I made the redirects, I will provide my reasoning without casting a vote.
  
  

Many high quality Wikipedia pages about people have redirects from many variations of subject's name. I used Bill Gates' redirects as an example. JONAS DEICHMANN is based on BILL GATES. JonasDeichmann on BillGates and so on.

Bill Gates is not the only one person with various redirects. It is the same in other lengthy, well established and high-quality Wikipedia pages about people. Redirects I created are less misspelled than those of e.g. Kobe Bryant. Kobe Bryant redirects include: Kobe bryant, Kobe Brian, Kobey Bryant, Kobee Bryant, Koby Bryant, Kobie Bryant, Kobi Bryant, Cobie Bryant, Kode bryant and others.

Besides, each of the redirects has been checked, reviewed and approved, see screenshot

My intention with redirects to Jonas Deichmann was to improve that page. I understood that more redirects meant "higher completion", based on what is done in other lengthier pages. Småland, Sweden (talk) 04:09, 17 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

So... you're saying you pulled a WP:PANDORA? mwwv ^converse∫_edits 12:42, 17 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Let this be a lesson to anyone who believes WP:PANDORA is not a legitimate concern. --Un assiolo (talk) 13:27, 27 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It isn't. It's WP:OTHERSTUFF and WP:CRYSTAL rolled up into one, often (but not always) with a side helping of WP:IDONTLIKEIT. That one person used correct redirects as the justification to create other correct redirects after the same pattern, plus some incorrect redirects not based on that pattern does not provide any evidence at all that PANDORA is correct. Thryduulf (talk) 17:51, 27 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Same choices as mwwv, but delete JonasDeichmann as well. We keep legacy camel case titles, but no reason to create new. Jay 💬 07:30, 27 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete all except those two, per Jay. --Un assiolo (talk) 13:28, 27 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep all with "Jonas" (all capitalisations), delete those with other names (he doesn't seem to go by "Jon" or "John". Thryduulf (talk) 17:52, 27 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete as implausible or WP:UNNATURAL except the two from Jay's comment. 1234qwer1234qwer4 02:16, 31 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep all with "Jonas". Cremastra (talk) 00:48, 1 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was keep. (non-admin closure) CycloneYoris ^talk! 10:11, 24 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Wikipedia:RFZ → Wikipedia:Wikibreak#Generic templates  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: //delete ] 

This is not an intuitive redirect, and contrary to the "speedy keep" at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 June 4#Wikipedia:RFZ, while "Request(s) for Zzz" might be a reading, that doesn't mean it's generally clear or understood. The target is not related to any "requests", and it is possible that the redirect was created as a result of an "Experiment". 1234qwer1234qwer4 19:17, 16 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Redirects are cheap and I’m unsure what benefit there is from deletion. It seems fine as a quick redirect to its current target. Fish+Karate 20:50, 16 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Almost every shortcut starting with "WP:RF" means "Requests for ...". The biggest exception is "RFD" itself, and even that has a hatnote for "Requests for deletion" (which is where it points at most English sister projects). —Cryptic 21:07, 16 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  Do you have any opinion on the redirect? The target of it it is not plausibly a "request for" anything. 1234qwer1234qwer4 23:53, 16 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  These templates are requests that people don't bother you on your talk page with the expectation of a prompt response. —Cryptic 00:03, 17 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep as completely harmless. If something else would benefit from the RFZ shortcut in the future then we can discuss retargetting at that time. Until then deletion would bring absolutely no benefits. Thryduulf (talk) 11:21, 17 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep - Reasonable and a bit humorous. Harmless. — Godsy ^(TALK_CONT) 19:10, 17 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was keep. Not enough support for disambiguating. (non-admin closure) CycloneYoris ^talk! 10:11, 24 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Wikipedia:PHIL → Wikipedia:WikiProject Philately  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: //delete ] 

Guessing what WP:PHIL points to without knowing, my bet would be the guess would be WP:PHILOSOPHY. Could of course be WP:PHILADELPHIA or WP:PHILIPPINES, but How far down the list would you go before even thinking WP:PHILATELY? Hyperbolick (talk) 18:42, 16 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I don't see any meaning as primary (and in particular no specific order in the "list" that I would have to "go down"), and this has collected less than 100 backlinks over the course of over 15 years, so disambiguation seems to be a viable option. Possibly also include Wikipedia:WikiProject Literature or Wikipedia:WikiProject Linguistics (though there currently also is no Wikipedia:WikiProject Philology redirect or hatnote at the target of WP:PHILO relating to that). 1234qwer1234qwer4 19:26, 16 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@1234qwer1234qwer4: Tbh not nuts for a disambig here. Would contend the PHIL-101 title here is for the Philosophy project. With a bunch of hatnotes, maybe a secondary disbambig. Hyperbolick (talk) 04:56, 17 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep. Many shortcuts are ambiguous so that's not a reason to change in and of itself. We should always be very conservative when retargetting shortcuts as I explained at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 August 15#Wikipedia:SCIENTOLOGY. In this case the shortcut does appear to be used a spot check of uses seems to indicate that people using it are expecting it to lead to the current target. Disambiguation brings no benefits to shortcuts as nobody gets where they want to do, making it useless. So I'm seeing potential harm and basically no benefit from changing. Thryduulf (talk) 11:26, 17 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Oppose disambiguation. Perhaps even most projectspace shortcuts are ambiguous by their nature. — Godsy ^(TALK_CONT) 19:02, 17 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep and Oppose dab: A dab will not be of any benefit and this works just fine. WP:PHILOSOPHY has its own shortcut WP:PHILO for the last 16 years without complaint and it's also a hatnote on the Philately Project page. However Wikipedia:WikiProject Philosophy does not give a reciprocal hatnote. ww2censor (talk) 11:08, 19 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  Yes, there is no reciprocal hatnote as no shortcut redirecting there is ambiguous with this. That said, I don't have a strong opinion on this one (in case anybody would want to relist this otherwise). 1234qwer1234qwer4 14:34, 22 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 23:31, 23 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Template:Usen → Template:Use American English  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: //delete ] 

unused. Already a lot of aliases for Use American English — GhostInTheMachine ^{talk to me} 18:03, 16 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete as confusing unless somebody can provide a reasonable explanation for this shortcut. 1234qwer1234qwer4 13:44, 17 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The shortcut makes sense if you parse it as "us en" not "use n" (c.f. Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 July 20#Template:Use) but that doesn't make it a useful redirect - indeed the ambiguity will just lead to confusion. Delete. Thryduulf (talk) 14:30, 17 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was retarget to Casein. (non-admin closure) CycloneYoris ^talk! 10:22, 24 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Beta-casein → CSN2  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: //delete ] 

I think readers are more likely to be looking for the Casein article than the article on the gene that encodes this protein in humans. 1234qwer1234qwer4 17:15, 16 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose 'beta-casein' has no meaning for anything related to casein, in the sense we have for most of that article (uses and products from casein). We might almost be better using A2 milk? Andy Dingley (talk) 19:36, 16 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Retarget to casein, but hopefully someone can expand so that there's something more there about the protein itself? Andy Dingley (talk) 19:39, 16 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was delete. Hey man im josh (talk) 12:44, 6 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Nakso → Casein  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: //delete ] 

Not mentioned at target. The mention at Tarak-juk#History appears to refer to the intended meaning. Apart from that, there is a passing mention at Rai people#Religion, as well as "Naksŏ", a romanisation of Kim Ja-jeom's art name listed in the infobox. 1234qwer1234qwer4 17:13, 16 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete in favour of search results. Singular mentions in multiple articles. Jay 💬 15:39, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was retarget to List of Alchemy of Souls characters. -- Tavix ^(talk) 17:47, 8 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Naksu → Casein  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: //delete ] 

Not mentioned at target. Has a meaning that is used in List of Alchemy of Souls characters. 1234qwer1234qwer4 17:10, 16 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Retarget to List of Alchemy of Souls characters per nom, or Delete. Jay 💬 15:37, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was delete. Hey man im josh (talk) 12:46, 6 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Casorphin → Casein  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: //delete ] 

Not mentioned anywhere on the English Wikipedia. Not sure if this is related to Casomorphin in any way. 1234qwer1234qwer4 17:03, 16 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete since it's not mentioned at the target article. In this paper (PDF), it's listed next to casomorphin, implying it's a different thing. --Un assiolo (talk) 13:33, 27 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete per Un assiolo. Jay 💬 14:06, 27 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was disambiguate. (non-admin closure) Cremastra (talk) 00:57, 1 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Ivorine → Casein#Plastics and fiber  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: //delete ] 

No mention at target; however, Ivory (soap) uses this as a brand of soap, Netsuke#Unusual materials as a material made from ivory, and Celluloid#Uses as a form of celluloid (French ivory). Note that the word can also be used as the adjective relating to ivory, see wikt:ivorine. 1234qwer1234qwer4 16:58, 16 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Disambig per nom. Multiple uses with no clear primary topic. Thryduulf (talk) 17:51, 16 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 23:31, 23 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Niga → Nigga  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: //delete ] 

Toma Niga, Ion Niga, National Indian Gaming Association, as well as multiple geographic names that have articles in some other projects. 1234qwer1234qwer4 15:35, 16 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

See Draft:Niga. It is a potential solution. 46.103.182.112 (talk) 19:45, 16 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete the existing redirect so that the draft disambiguation page can be accepted, and the redirect can be added to the disamb page if thought appropriate. Robert McClenon (talk) 02:54, 17 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete in favour of the dab page. —Jéské Couriano v^_^v ^{threads critiques} 18:25, 17 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was speedy delete per WP:G7 -- author requests deletion — CactusWriter ^(talk) 23:31, 16 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Weather of 1980 → Weather by year  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: //delete ] 

Redirected Article does not cover 1980. Unsure if better target exists. Blethering Scot 15:20, 16 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete per WP:REDLINK. Thryduulf (talk) 15:22, 16 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

As the creator of the redirect, I'll agree to delete it. OhHaiMark (talk) 15:46, 16 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was delete. Hey man im josh (talk) 12:47, 6 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Banishing crows from a field → Scarecrow  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: //delete ] 

originally an essay written in 1rd person and signed by someone who didn't even write it (no, that's not important here, i just felt like pointing it out), currently not that. as detailed in the target, scarecrows are meant to keep birds away from succulents, as opposed to actively driving them out like other bird scarers. while i think retargeting it there would be the best option, there might be something i'm missing cogsan _{(nag me) (stalk me)} 12:46, 16 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete. Implausible search term. --Un assiolo (talk) 13:35, 27 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete per Un assiolo. We prevent crows from going onto a field. Crows do not live in the field for them to be banished, either as punishment, or otherwise! Jay 💬 14:04, 27 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was no consensus, disambiguate as the most supported alternative to deletion. -- Tavix ^(talk) 17:43, 8 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Best Year Ever → Best Week Ever  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: //delete ] 

The page title could also refer to the SpongeBob 20th anniversary celebration known as "Best Year Ever". Retarget to SpongeBob SquarePants#Twentieth anniversary or disambiguate? 1033Forest (talk) 03:44, 14 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Disambig. Unsurprisingly this is a very common title for references, but in addition to the current target and the SpongeBob Squarepants targets I've found I Love...#Best Year Ever… (More4), Amelia's Best Year Ever (Amelia's Notebooks#Elementary school), and a Doctor Who episode (Doctor Who: The Eighth Doctor Adventures#Series 4 (2022)), none of which seem primary. It wouldn't surprise me if there are more as this is not an easy thing to search for (which also means search results will be extremely unhelpful so we definitely should not delete this). Thryduulf (talk) 13:00, 14 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, _signed, Rosguill ^talk 17:07, 24 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete I really see no use in keeping this. Intrisit (talk) 10:11, 3 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete We could have a disambiguation cobbled together from a bunch of passing mentions. This is the sort of thing search is typically better at. * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 03:05, 12 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete to allow search results, and since a disambiguation page of mentions and essentially WP:PTMs would be a freaking mess. Steel1943 (talk) 02:13, 15 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Search results are good in theory but are actively unhelpful for such a common phrase as this where the likely search targets are swamped by passing mentions and collocations. Thryduulf (talk) 13:47, 15 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Delete or disambiguate?
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, CycloneYoris ^talk! 09:53, 16 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete per above. – The Grid (talk) 16:22, 16 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• I agree with Thryduulf, disambiguation seems more helpful, and at least the SpongeBob episode is more than a passing mention, so disambiguation seems like a good solution (not sure whether "Amelia's Best Year Ever" should be included there, but the other three meanings are not WP:PTMs contrary to Steel1943). 1234qwer1234qwer4 17:07, 16 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Drafted a dab at the redirect, and made "Amelia's Best Year Ever" an entry, and not a See also. Jay 💬 15:21, 25 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was retarget to Control. ^Complex/_Rational 13:26, 23 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Contol → Chlordiazepoxide  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: //delete ] 

Not mentioned at target, and seems to have other uses according to a web search. 1234qwer1234qwer4 01:55, 16 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Retarget to Control as a harmless {{R from misspelling}}. Plausible misspelling for Control, as demonstrated by other redirects that feature the same typo: Contol pitcher, Approach Contol and Debt Contol Agency. CycloneYoris ^talk! 08:07, 23 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  Update: I just realized that this was originally created as a typo for "Control" anyway, according to the entry at the dab which says: Chlordiazepoxide, also sold under the trade name Control, so definitely retarget there. CycloneYoris ^talk! 08:26, 23 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Retarget to Control per CycloneYoris. Thryduulf (talk) 10:45, 23 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 05:57, 23 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Joseph Sam Williams → Joseph Williams (musician)  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: //delete ] 

Joseph Sam Williams is the name of a non-notable musician that User:Japansonglove and various other sockpuppets constantly try to promote. Article was created by User:Ducdo29, who was eventually globally locked, as a redirect to Joseph Williams (musician). However, the Joseph Williams that the redirect goes to is named Joseph Stanley Williams. In my opinion, Sam and Stanley are not similar enough to cause confusion and this redirect is both unnecessary and just a way to promote the non-notable musician. Thebirdlover (talk) 00:00, 16 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Update: Original user who created the page was actually User:Ducdo929. Thebirdlover (talk) 17:19, 17 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per nomination. If there's a connection between glocked User:Ducdo29 and User:Japansonglove, then it can be speedied db-g5. Wikishovel (talk) 08:48, 16 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the update. I was about to file an SPI for User:Ducdo929, but as they had so few contributions and are already glocked, there's probably no point. Let's just delete this and have done. Wikishovel (talk) 17:25, 17 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete and salt. For what it's worth, it's also related to Smagzine. LilianaUwU ^{(talk / contributions)} 11:27, 19 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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