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Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2021 June 5

This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on June 5, 2021.

Complex variables (disambiguation)

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The result of the discussion was keep. As Paul notes below, this discussion has been the tail wagging the dog. As long as Complex variables is a disambiguation page, the redirect is required (and I believe would be created by a bot if it didn't already exist). If there's consensus that Complex variables should not be a disambiguation page, or a redirect to one, this redirect can be speedily deleted. --BDD (talk) 15:59, 13 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

It seemed like I didn't need this page because complex variables are already disambiguating or redirecting. Also, it is currently a double redirect. I started the discussion because there may be some objections to changing Complex variables to redirects. --SilverMatsu (talk) 03:02, 12 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

  • Speedy keep You were the one who redirected the disambiguation page at the title. This was a bad move on your part. You seemingly also did a WP:CPMOVE of the target to Several complex variables, which is now a malformed disambig that doesn't distinguish topics with this name. –LaundryPizza03 (d) 14:48, 12 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
    • Several complex variables and complex analysis have been considered for merge once, and it is ambiguous whether to limit complex analysis to one variable. Sure, for a different reason than disambiguating complex variables, but I didn't copy it. Several complex variables are certainly extensions of one-complex variable analysis to multiple variables, but limiting the scope to analysis alone seems a bit narrow. Another reason I would to make it clear that we didn't change the category name. That is, not only as a short name for the Function of several complex variables, but also as a field name. --SilverMatsu (talk) 15:38, 13 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment "complex variables" should be revert to its 2012 revision, and marked as a set index instead of a disambiguation page. -- 67.70.27.105 (talk) 00:56, 14 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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Relisting comment: While the consensus appears to be to retarget to Complex analysis, that is not a disambiguation page so this redirect would then be subject to speedy deletion (WP:CSD#G14) and nobody appears to favour deletion so I'm relisting for further discussion.
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TCC Group

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The result of the discussion was keep. (non-admin closure) Compassionate727 (T·C) 20:26, 12 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

A Google search reveals many entities known by this name, though few appear to be covered by Wikipedia. I don't see Taiwan Cement among the results, though. Most mentions on Wikipedia (including one incorrect incoming link) appear to be for TCC Group (Thai company), which redirects to Charoen Sirivadhanabhakdi, so maybe this redirect should be retargeted there instead, as an R with possibilities. Paul_012 (talk) 19:36, 5 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

  • Keep. Agree with nom on Google results and Wikipedia mentions. However the Thai page is properly disambiguated and the Taiwan page does have a hatnote to the Thai page. The Taiwan page is not a proper target as it's about Taiwan Cement Corporation which is only one part of the group which is a conglomerate depicted in their website. Also, I believe the terms TCC and TCC Group may have been used interchangeably, as where the group started off from was the cement company. The Thai page is a worse target as it is of a person, not the group of companies. Hence, what we have now is fine, and relist when sometime in the future, Charoen Sirivadhanabhakdi is forked and has its own standalone article for the Thai group. - Jay Talk 15:11, 8 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep I agree with Jay's analysis, and the target page now does a better job of covering TCC Group. It still needs more work. --Bejnar (talk) 18:06, 8 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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COVID-19 Hospital

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The result of the discussion was disambiguate. Nominally no consensus between disambiguate, retarget and delete, defaulting to no consensus due to absence of support for keep. signed, Rosguill talk 05:13, 16 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

This is too specific a topic for the redirect title. feminist (talk) 05:45, 26 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Relisting comment: note this is an involved relisting to close the 11 May log page.
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Gaza genocide

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The result of the discussion was delete. The Blade of the Northern Lights (話して下さい) 19:45, 15 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Not a neutral wording. Not linked from anywhere. Triggerhippie4 (talk) 03:14, 17 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Tinkling

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The result of the discussion was no consensus not defaulting to keep. I initially tried to disambiguate this, but Harmonic oscillator does not discuss the sound tinkle (that word is not used in the article at all, nor is the synonym "ring" nor even the word "sound"), disambiguating would result in basically two dictionary definitions of tinkling rather than two pages that discuss it, and Wiktionary is better suited to handling that, so I have gone with the soft redirect option. (non-admin closure) Compassionate727 (T·C) 20:23, 12 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The article Urination does not say that tinkling is a euphemism for urination (in fact it describes tinkling as a sound). I don't think having this redirect is helpful and a better target may be soft redirect to wikt. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 08:50, 3 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Keep or disambiguate. I think the current target is the primary topic, but that doesn't seem to be the consensus here, so disambiguate the topics mentioned above and include the Wiktionary link there. Mdewman6 (talk) 01:05, 30 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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WWAFAWDWG?

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The result of the discussion was no consensus. (non-admin closure) Compassionate727 (T·C) 20:16, 12 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

per Wikipedia:Redirects_for_discussion/Log/2019_April_25#WWAFAWDWG -- dylx 17:18, 6 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@Rosguill, Daybeers, MaranoFan, AngusWOOF, and Rubbish computer: pinging users who participated in the previous discussion. -- dylx 12:39, 11 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Keep as a reasonable acronym used in sources that is unlikely to ever mean anything else. I agree that WWAFAWDWG should be re-created. I'm skeptical of the conclusion in the previous RfD because it evaluated the redirects as a group and did not consider the merits of this one in isolation, plus mentions like [5] were made after that discussion. — The Earwig (talk) 07:27, 12 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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Kobe Jones

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The result of the discussion was no consensus not defaulting to keep. Given the general dissatisfaction with the current status quo, I have followed the most supported option, which was retarget to Cobi Jones as an {{R from misspelling}}. (non-admin closure) Compassionate727 (T·C) 20:14, 12 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

There is no need for this redirect (and potentially stops this page from being filled out if need be) Debartolo2917 (talk) 03:49, 8 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Revert back to being a misspelling redirect for Cobi Jones, the status quo since 2007. If the other Jones becomes notable, it can be overwritten with an article. Either way, there's a long precedent of deleting redirects to season articles so the current set up is unhelpful. -- Tavix (talk) 03:07, 19 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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Pseudophysics

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The result of the discussion was retarget to List of topics characterized as pseudoscience#Physics. (non-admin closure) Compassionate727 (T·C) 20:41, 7 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

This was the original title of an article Pseudoscience (physics) about a non-notable neologism defined as pseudoscience in the domain of physics. After a convoluted process, Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Pseudoscience (physics) (2nd nomination) resolved to delete the article and redirect to List of topics characterized as pseudoscience#Physics. –LaundryPizza03 (d) 19:51, 22 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Yeah, you're right. I relisted it because I couldn't tell what the nominator was proposing, which is just silly; now that I'm not sleep deprived, it's incredibly obvious. I'll close it now. Compassionate727 (T·C) 20:38, 7 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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Porte des Lions

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The result of the discussion was retarget to Louvre Palace#Denon and Flore Wings. (non-admin closure) Compassionate727 (T·C) 20:11, 12 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Not mentioned at the target or its corresponding frWiki page, delete unless a justification can be provided. signed, Rosguill talk 18:34, 15 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Str rt

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The result of the discussion was no consensus. (non-admin closure) Compassionate727 (T·C) 20:09, 12 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Unused, unclear template redirect. User:GKFXtalk 09:22, 26 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

  • keep spelling variation, as "str" is clearly abbreviation for "string", rt is clearly abbreviation for "right"; and a commonly used abbreviation for right. (indeed, some programming languages use RT instead of RIGHT) -- 67.70.27.246 (talk) 14:51, 26 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
    • As mentioned above the Str_ part is OK and fits a convention, it's the rt that I object to. I wouldn't expect people to search for rt if they meant "right", and it would not be that clear if part of template markup. User:GKFXtalk 18:29, 26 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
      • RT is a common abbreviation for right, so I would think that some people would search this way, and it probably is a WP:CHEAP redirect as it is. RT is a recognized abbreviation for right [9] and found in some programming languages [10] ; so I think it is a reasoanble redirect and search term -- 67.70.27.246 (talk) 20:11, 26 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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Moues

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Gender and Sexual Minorities

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Sea trade route

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Katie Britt

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The result of the discussion was retarget to Wesley Britt#Personal life. (non-admin closure) Compassionate727 (T·C) 16:31, 12 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Not mentioned at the target, delete unless a justification can be provided. signed, Rosguill talk 16:58, 28 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

:I raise no objection to this page being deleted, so delete unless Katie Britt is a candidate in the 2022 United States Senate election in Alabama, which is likely. Muhibm0307 (talk) 13:26, 1 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Actually, I changed the redirect target to 2022 United States Senate election in Alabama, because Britt has an announcement pending for that election. Do we need to delete this now? Muhibm0307 (talk) 16:01, 4 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Please do not change the target of the redirect while it is under discussion. - Jay Talk 20:56, 5 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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Oulo

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MKSA system

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The result of the discussion was no consensus. (non-admin closure) Compassionate727 (T·C) 16:27, 12 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

These redirects should rather redirected to MKS system of units or to a section of International System of Units, since these articles are more directly related to the topic (MKSA is an extension of MKS and the base of SI) and since Giorgi did not directly propose this exact system, he proposed a system with any practical electrical unit as a fourth base (so MKSV or MKSΩ would also be consistent with his proposal). --Lukflug (talk) 18:29, 21 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

  • Comment. In the current state of affairs a section in the MKS system of units or the Giovanni Giorgi article would, IMO, both be appropriate targets for the redirects. The International System of Units article, however, seems to be too off-topic already. When I created those redirects I linked MKSA to the Giorgi article because it had (and still has) a little bit more information about the topic than the MKS article, however, this is something that might change over time through normal article development, and, from a logical point of view, the MKS article might be the slightly better target long-term.
So, I can support switching the target link to point to a section of the MKS system of units article if we add a dedicated MKSA link to the Giorgi article and decide that, for adding more information on MKSA in the future, the MKS article would be the better place, given that MKSA is, in fact, only one of the possible systems suggested by Giorgi. However, in the current state of affairs I still do not see a strong need to switch the target, so I'd also be happy if we keep the links as is for now.
--Matthiaspaul (talk) 08:32, 23 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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Ofenbach

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The result of the discussion was retarget to Offenbach. (non-admin closure) CycloneYoris talk! 01:20, 12 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The pageviews indicate that Ofenbach (DJs) is the more likely intended target. A recent RM to move the article to the basename has just closed with no consensus. Recommend the primary redirect to Ofenbach (DJs) instead, with accompanying hatnote at Lanzenkirchen. 162 etc. (talk) 19:54, 28 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

See pageviews. 162 etc. (talk) 19:55, 28 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Then make it a disambiguation page. Given the pageviews, the current primary redirect to Lanzenkirchen is indefensible. 162 etc. (talk) 15:26, 29 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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If there are plans to make the DJs the primary topic again, it can be proposed again in a few months with stronger evidence or strengthened arguments. AngusW🐶🐶F (barksniff) 17:38, 7 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Exactly. There should be one DAB headed Offenbach or Ofenbach can refer to... or similar. Andrewa (talk) 20:40, 7 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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Philip Thomas Tucker

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The result of the discussion was keep. (non-admin closure) CycloneYoris talk! 01:18, 12 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

WP:XY issues, as Tucker has written many other books. While this is currently the only book of his we have an article on, searching for reviewing on EBSCO indicates that this work Exodus from the Alamo is notable, and his bio of John S. Bowen likely is as well. I think it's too narrow to point this to a single book of Tucker's. Hog Farm Talk 06:04, 21 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Kudanzaka

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The result of the discussion was retarget to Chiyoda, Tokyo#Geography. (non-admin closure) Compassionate727 (T·C) 16:26, 12 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Propose deletion. This hill does not meet the general notability guideline. 122.60.46.122 (talk) 09:37, 28 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

We also have an article on The Kudan, a notable residence in Chiyoda and which mentions Kudanzaka in passing but without much information. I don't read Japanese but ja:九段 (via Google Translate) seems to be more about the surrounding neighbourhood, and also includes some description and history of the slope. Maybe someone more proficient can use that to construct an article, or add something to the Chiyoda article? Ivanvector's squirrel (trees/nuts) 12:37, 31 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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Oyata

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Maryland Department of Housing and Community Development

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Hyper Potions

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The result of the discussion was delete. --BDD (talk) 15:24, 13 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect target has nothing to do with the article's subject other than writing 2 songs for it, despite the group having done things other than just that Blaze The Wolf | Proud Furry and Wikipedia Editor (talk) 14:48, 5 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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TLC Beatrice

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The result of the discussion was retarget to Beatrice Foods. (non-admin closure) CycloneYoris talk! 01:07, 12 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Shouldn't this redirect to Beatrice Foods, the company this was split off from, if at all? Paul_012 (talk) 19:29, 22 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Bong Go-class frigate

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The result of the discussion was delete. --BDD (talk) 15:25, 13 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

While "Bong Go" is a subject of controversy regarding a government deal involving these frigates. This is not a plausible search term. Hariboneagle927 (talk) 00:30, 29 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Lake Pyhäjärvi

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The result of the discussion was retarget to Pyhäjärvi (disambiguation). (non-admin closure) CycloneYoris talk! 01:06, 12 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

"Lake Pyhäjärvi" literally means "Lake Holy Lake". There are quite many lakes named Pyhäjärvi in Finland, the one in the Tampere region is by no means the primary topic. This should redirect to Pyhäjärvi (disambiguation) instead, as Pyhäjärvi itself is a town in Finland. JIP | Talk 00:15, 5 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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