Wikipedia:Possibly unfree files/2011 May 22
May 22
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The result of the discussion was: Keep all. After Midnight 0001 14:46, 12 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- File:Twisted Individual.JPG (delete | talk | history | logs).
- Upload by User:Alkivar, now long gone. User claims to want any attribution to http://www.alkivar.com. User may or may not represent the web site, we cannot tell. I therefore tagged these with di-no-permission as that template nicely states - It is sourced to someone other than the uploader, or to an external site which the uploader claims to represent or own. User:Beyond My Ken decided to remove them, so I have to list them here instead. Note that the {{information}} and "source ={{own}}" were added by User:Beyond My Ken, not User:Alkivar. There are also 13 other images which fit into the same issue -
File:DJ Godfather.JPG
File:DJ Craze.JPG
File:DJ Fresh.JPG
File:GhettoTech DJs.JPG
File:Freaky Flow & Flipside.JPG
File:Total science.jpg
File:Shy FX.JPG
File:DJ SS.JPG
File:Club Kid.JPG
File:Reid Speed.jpg
File:Uberzone.JPG
File:Dmitri from Deee-Lite.JPG
File:Junior Sanchez.JPG
Ronhjones (Talk) 00:27, 22 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- I removed the tag placed on these images by Ronhjones because it was obvious and apparent that User:Alkivar had uploaded them claiming them as his own work, and had merely not labelled them correctly. For other images that Ronhjones tagged it was clear that Alkivar was not claiming them as his own, and I did not in any way alter these. I feel the Ronhjones is casting too wide a net here, and is bending over backwards, ignoring AGF, in his assumption that when user Alkivar says that if published the images should be attributed to "Alkivar http://www.alkivar.com", the "Alkivar" being referred to is not the obvious one (i.e. the user who uploaded the images) but to a website run by some third party not related to the user. This is the worst possible intrepretation of the available information. (In any event, user Alkivar clearly is the owner/subject of alkivar.com, as shown by this earlier version of Alkivar's user page.
There is, in short, no reasonable assumption which leads to Ronhjones' conclusion, only the worst possible set of assumptions. A reasonable editor seeing the incorrectly formatted information in this images would conclude that the uploader was claiming them as his own, and that there is nothing to contradict that except the assumption of the worst possible interpretation of the data. Beyond My Ken (talk) 02:57, 22 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- I never said he did not own them, just that the images do fit with the wording used on {{Di-no permission}},as there is a website cited. Maybe, it's User:Alkivar fault, he should have just claimed them as his own, but he chose not to do so, but instead wanted the web site address instead. We can only work with the data that we are given, not what we might like to guess is correct. Ronhjones (Talk) 17:24, 22 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- That is not a correct presentation of the attribution requested. He did not request "http://www.alkivar.com" or "[http://alkivar.com|Alkivar]", he requested "Alkivar http://www.alkivar.com". The first is him, the second is the website. Here, again, you have to take the worst possible interpretation of the facts to support your contention, ignoring the obvious one, which does not.
If you "never said he did not own them", then how can they be unfree? If he owns them, he has the right to upload them here. What evidence other than your misinterpretation of what he wrote in the image summary do you have that these files are unfree? Beyond My Ken (talk) 18:49, 22 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- We will obviously not agree here. I have my view and you have yours. We'll let the community decide. Ronhjones (Talk) 21:07, 22 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Indeed, it's unlikely we will agree -- but can you please explicitly answer my question: do you have any additional evidence that the images are unfree? That's something the community is entitled to know -- yeah or nay -- in order to make its decision. Beyond My Ken (talk) 22:34, 22 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- The only evidence is on the files. It links to a web site (origial text by user was If published photo credit should read "Photo by Alkivar http://www.alkivar.com". One may assume (like you have) that User:Alkivar and "Alkivar http://www.alkivar.com" are one and the same. On the other hand it does not say "Photo by User:Alkivar", there are very many numerous occasions (more so in the past, thankfully) where new users have used a name from an existing web site, in view of writing articles relating to that site. I also noted at the time, that User:Alkivar does have a bit of history relating to uploading of unfree files in the past. Ronhjones (Talk) 13:31, 25 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- OK, so your answer is that aside from some badly filled-out summary information, from which you have drawn the worst possible inferences, there is no other evidence that these files are unfree. Beyond My Ken (talk) 17:50, 25 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- The only evidence is on the files. It links to a web site (origial text by user was If published photo credit should read "Photo by Alkivar http://www.alkivar.com". One may assume (like you have) that User:Alkivar and "Alkivar http://www.alkivar.com" are one and the same. On the other hand it does not say "Photo by User:Alkivar", there are very many numerous occasions (more so in the past, thankfully) where new users have used a name from an existing web site, in view of writing articles relating to that site. I also noted at the time, that User:Alkivar does have a bit of history relating to uploading of unfree files in the past. Ronhjones (Talk) 13:31, 25 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Indeed, it's unlikely we will agree -- but can you please explicitly answer my question: do you have any additional evidence that the images are unfree? That's something the community is entitled to know -- yeah or nay -- in order to make its decision. Beyond My Ken (talk) 22:34, 22 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- We will obviously not agree here. I have my view and you have yours. We'll let the community decide. Ronhjones (Talk) 21:07, 22 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- That is not a correct presentation of the attribution requested. He did not request "http://www.alkivar.com" or "[http://alkivar.com|Alkivar]", he requested "Alkivar http://www.alkivar.com". The first is him, the second is the website. Here, again, you have to take the worst possible interpretation of the facts to support your contention, ignoring the obvious one, which does not.
- I never said he did not own them, just that the images do fit with the wording used on {{Di-no permission}},as there is a website cited. Maybe, it's User:Alkivar fault, he should have just claimed them as his own, but he chose not to do so, but instead wanted the web site address instead. We can only work with the data that we are given, not what we might like to guess is correct. Ronhjones (Talk) 17:24, 22 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted as F4 by Skier Dude (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 06:06, 29 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- File:Lespaul.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs).
- Appears to be copied from http://www.pioneertroubadours.com/les_paul.htm with no fair use or even a license tag. Eeekster (talk) 04:31, 22 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted as F9 by RHaworth (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 19:13, 22 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- File:Sharmila swimsuit.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs).
- Editor says it was created by him, but it is clearly a movie clip, and described as such by the editor in the description, so it is not free to share. BollyJeff || talk 12:09, 22 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by After Midnight (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 16:08, 12 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- File:TCS office.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs).
- The resolution is too low and is much more typical of a website. The author has a long history of unauthorized image uploads. If he is the owner, please upload a much higher resolution image. Muhandes (talk) 15:42, 22 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by After Midnight (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 16:08, 12 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- File:TCS trivandrum.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs).
- The resolution is too low and is much more typical of a website. The author has a long history of unauthorized image uploads. If he is the owner, please upload a much higher resolution image. Muhandes (talk) 15:43, 22 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- The building in the picture is not a TCS office, and neither is it in Trivandrum. --thunderboltz(TALK) 12:43, 11 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by After Midnight (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 16:08, 12 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- File:TCS CEO.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs).
- The resolution is too low and is much more typical of a website. The author has a long history of unauthorized image uploads. If he is the owner, please upload a much higher resolution image. Muhandes (talk) 15:43, 22 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by After Midnight (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 16:08, 12 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- File:20060624MysoreBrothers.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs).
- Source given as [1], claimed PD-self, homepage of the website has a copyright notice. I doubt this PD-self claim, the description acknowledges it has been 'taken'. Acather96 (talk) 17:10, 22 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the discussion was: Keep; wrong forum. After Midnight 0001 14:58, 12 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- File:Norwest christian college.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs).
- This file is only used on a user page. Not sure if the rational is a good enough reason to have it JDDJS (talk) 20:04, 22 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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