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Result: Delisted. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 20:52, 18 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

There is no post-2016 information in the article, and a "Update needed" orange banner since December 2021. There are also some "third-party source needed" tags from 2022 and a "citation needed" tag from 2016. Z1720 (talk) 19:10, 12 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Is there actually evidence that he's done anything of note since 2016? He got out of prison and appears to have largely faded into private life. I don't know that there's anything to update. Hog Farm _Talk 21:08, 12 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Hog Farm: A quick search produced some sources about minor post-2016 activities. The problem I have is I do not know what information I might not find, and I don't have great access to San Fransisco sources. I'd prefer it if someone with access to SF sources can confirm that the article is updated. If no one is interested in updating it now, I doubt an editor will update it later and this article might continue to be outdated. Z1720 (talk) 00:58, 13 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

An article cannot be delisted because sources might be out there. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 21:18, 13 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I will say that I generally do agree with the third-party source needed tags - I'm not a huge fan of using the personal website biography of a politician, who among other things, got in trouble for lying. Hog Farm _Talk 14:12, 14 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@AirshipJungleman29: I agree that "An article cannot be delisted because sources might be out there". I was able to find sources that spoke a little about their post-2016 activities. If all that can be added is minor information, I think it should be added so the reader can feel confident that this is the most up-to-date article that Wikipedia can produce, and to fulfil WP:GA? 3a: covering all major aspects of the topic. I would feel more confident that this was up-to-date if a second editor more familiar with the topic also searches for sources, as I am not familiar with local sources from the SF area. If anyone is interested, I can post the links of the sources I found below. Z1720 (talk) 14:21, 14 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

There are six results for "Ed Jew" in California papers on newspapers.com from 2016 to the present. This is one of the prime things that comes up on Google for 2016-2025 results. The slideshow slide for Jew says "In 2013, Ed Jew was released from jail and took a low-paying job the next year in a city-funded program targeting illegal garbage dumping in Chinatown, a position he still held in 2016. His job consists of snapping photos of illegal dumping, calling in reports to San Francisco Public Works and meeting with neighborhood merchants to hear their complaints about dumping. In this photo, Jew leaves the Hall of Justice with his attorney in 2014." Which is pretty much the same content we have in our article. The post-2016 coverage I can find of him is just retrospects of the legal trouble he got in back in the day; I really can't find any missing content from after 2016. Once somebody fades into private life like Jew did, there isn't really anything to say, and I don't think we should be trying to dredge up everything we can for somebody who has been under the radar for years. Hog Farm _Talk 04:27, 15 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I agree with Hog Farm here. We can't really say "there's no news to report" and can't use that as a reason to delist either. Articles are supposed to be an accurate reflection of the breadth and depth of sources available. If there's little or no sourcing post 2016, that isn't a fault against the article's comprehensiveness. Unfortunately I don't think there's really a policy compliant way to say "there's nothing to say". The non-independent sources are an issue though. Trainsandotherthings (talk) 23:33, 23 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@AirshipJungleman29 @Hog Farm@Trainsandotherthings@Z1720 Any further comments? All Tomorrows No Yesterdays (Ughhh.... What did I do wrong this time?) 13:19, 14 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

There are still some unresolved tags in the article. Z1720 (talk) 21:17, 16 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The CN tag wasn't really necessary, that content was supported to the next inline citation (the campaign bio). But that leaves the first 9 sentences of the article sourced only to the campaign bio of a person who was convicted of perjury. I don't know that a replacement source can be found for most of that stuff; this can probably be delisted I guess, since nobody seems to care and those better source needed tags have been present since late 2022. Hog Farm _Talk 20:44, 18 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]