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The result of the discussion was: withdrawn - Wrong forum - Non admin closure

File:TheGYBook icon (May 2012).png (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Stewartlee39 ( | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Logo artwork Sfan00 IMG (talk) 11:03, 25 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Withdrawn - Erronous nom - Should be PUF.. Sfan00 IMG (talk) 12:44, 29 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by Magog the Ogre (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 18:30, 18 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

File:Baldwin Park in LA County map.png (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Bumm13 ( | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Orphan, superceded by the much-superior File:LA County Incorporated Areas Baldwin Park highlighted.svg – Quadell ^(talk) 12:25, 25 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

In fact, I'm nominating all of the LA County / Orange County locator maps by the same uploader. They may have been useful back in 2006, but they're all orphans now, and superceded by much better (cleaner, higher res) locator maps on Commons. I'll list them below. – Quadell ^(talk) 12:42, 25 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Do any of the PNG versions need to be retained for 'attribution chain' reasons? Sfan00 IMG (talk) 14:47, 25 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

No, all of the SVG maps on Commons were created independently, and are not based on these PNG maps. – Quadell ^(talk) 14:49, 25 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was: Delete superseeded - uploader concurs Agathoclea (talk) 18:41, 21 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

File:BaldwinStDnMap.png (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Grutness ( | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Orphan, superceded by location map File:Dunedin, New Zealand location map.PNG as used in Baldwin Street – Quadell ^(talk) 14:13, 25 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Similarly, the following locator maps have been superseded by the {{location map}} syntax in their respective articles:

• Move all to commons just because we use a complicated template to do this doesn't mean that every wikipedia language have editors willing to maintain such things. These should be on commons available for use. -- 76.65.128.222 (talk) 22:38, 25 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

  For the record, if these are moved to Commons, I do not believe they will ever be used in any wikiproject. – Quadell ^(talk) 15:46, 26 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

  So we should make sure that our sibling wikipedias (not Wikiprojects) with low number of editors should not be able to have maps available if someone wants to write articles on these locales? -- 76.65.128.222 (talk) 05:08, 27 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

• Note: The uploader stated: "If they're all superseded there's no point keeping them, so delete away!". – Quadell ^(talk) 15:44, 26 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by Future Perfect at Sunrise (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 19:22, 3 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

File:Strong Arms of the Ma.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Holiday56 ( | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Not needed to understand article. Beerest355 Talk 16:01, 25 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was: Delete. Nobody doubts his heroism but it doesn't need an image to talk about that. The image fails WP:NFCC#8 and its omission is not detrimental to understanding. Nthep (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA)

File:WilliamDavidSanders.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Smoth 007 ( | contribs | uploads | upload log).

This image of a deceased person comes from a page that was recently deleted, so I tagged it for DI. However, it was recently added to Columbine High School massacre. At that page, it is a failure of WP:NFCC#8, as it is unneeded to understand the article (a picture of him is not needed to show that he saved students or received a medal). Beerest355 Talk 16:48, 25 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Dear wikipedians including Beerest355! Boiled down, I have decided to save the image of William David Sanders from falling into oblivion and placed it on Columbine High School massacre to provide a moral lens to the smiling faces of both murderers. I admire your remarkable persistence, my good colleague Beerest355, as much as your ingenious signature, but this indeed would be the case when use of non-free content will "significantly increase readers' understanding of the topic, and its omission would be detrimental to that understanding" as WP:NFCC#8 states. By the way, the page that you mentioned above was not actually deleted as you mistakenly assumed, on the contrary, it was merged with Columbine High School massacre to emphasize, I believe, the bold actions of William David Sanders, a forgotten hero of Columbine shooting. That was right, since we all regardless of our age need unselfish heroes as role models in our uncertain times which are rife with complex challenges and gut-wrenching moral choices. Also, in the future please kindly inform other users involved about your deletion intentions, we are all busy people, are we? Hope this will help, with best regards --Murus (talk) 02:52, 26 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

It was not merged. User:Postdlf only redirected the article as a result of an AfD (that I opened). So it was basically deleted. Beerest355 Talk 16:49, 26 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Deleted or basically deleted? They say that the devil is in the details... And besides that fact that you probably simply did not like the guy and started the AfD, - I see no rationale at all in your actions and also in musing on a subject of WP:NFCC#8. That image was simply marked as orphaned, there is nothing wrong with it, nobody complained about it except yourself, and, most of all, I found a good home for it. Besides providing a visual identification, it shows what type of a person you should be in order to place common interest above emotional preferences. Keep--Murus (talk) 01:56, 27 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Follow up. By the way, could you please kindly post a link to that particular AfD? That will provide some contextual fiber to our discussion and make it more vigorous. Thank you. --Murus (talk) 01:56, 27 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The AfD is located here. By the way, accusing me of "not liking" Sanders is ridiculous. I did not know him so how could I have feelings toward him? I know he acted heroically, but other then that, zilch. Also, yes, I was the only one who had a problem with the image - that's why I brought it here so others could discuss it. Go ahead, post this to the village pump. The more, the merrier. Beerest355 Talk 02:11, 27 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete, Sanders did act heroically, and I'm glad his actions are not forgotten. But memorializing the dead or "providing a moral lens" are not valid reasons to use non-free images on Wikipedia, no matter how noble the goals may seem. As a human being I am more emotionally moved when I see the face of the victim, but I do not understand the topic of the article any better. Perhaps Mr. Sanders' family would be willing to donate a photo of him into the public domain? – Quadell ^(talk) 15:52, 26 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Delete? Wait a minute, Mr. Quadell. So, what is wrong with this particular image? The failure of WP:NFCC#8 was not proved, just alleged:

it is unneeded to understand the article (a picture of him is not needed to show that he saved students or received a medal

and there are other 500,000 non-free images on English Wikipedia, so it is not that you both will be out of work sometimes soon. By the way, I suspect that you, guys, are just bored toiling in this dungeon where no one shows up. How about I post our lively chat at village pump, you are entitled to have some fun like everybody else here. Best --Murus (talk) 01:56, 27 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

All of our non-free images have to pass all our non-free content criteria, including #8, or they should be deleted. It's nothing personal. I'm not exactly sure what your last two sentences mean, but I'm quite proud of the work I've done on Wikipedia over the last decade, I don't see it as a dungeon, and I invite wider scrutiny on all my actions here. All the best, – Quadell ^(talk) 11:44, 29 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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File:Photo0002.JPG (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Dol ankita ( | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Orphan, bad name, no description – Quadell ^(talk) 17:49, 25 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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File:Photo0018.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Thando.january ( | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Bad name, orphan, unused photo of non-notable person – Quadell ^(talk) 17:54, 25 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete unused personal photograph. Secondarywaltz (talk) 14:42, 26 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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File:Photo0040wc3.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Adam Thomas ( | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Orphan, blurry, bad name, non-notable subject – Quadell ^(talk) 18:04, 25 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete unused personal photograph. Secondarywaltz (talk) 14:41, 26 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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File:Photo0042 Correction.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Samwaters ( | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Orphan, blurry, bad name, not useful – Quadell ^(talk) 18:07, 25 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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File:Photo0578sl6.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Miso club ( | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Orphan, bad name, not useful – Quadell ^(talk) 18:08, 25 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete unused personal photograph. Secondarywaltz (talk) 14:40, 26 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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File:Photo020.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Ultratick ( | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Orphan, bad name, not useful, possibly a derivative work – Quadell ^(talk) 18:15, 25 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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File:Photo0670.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Innuendo1899 ( | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Orphan, bad name, blurry, not useful – Quadell ^(talk) 18:19, 25 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Orphan, bad name, not useful – Quadell ^(talk) 18:21, 25 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete unused personal photograph. Secondarywaltz (talk) 14:39, 26 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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