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July 1

Category:Albums recorded at Indigo Ranch

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The result of the discussion was: delete. Kbdank71 18:28, 9 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Category:Albums recorded at Indigo Ranch ( | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Nominator's rationale: Delete - there is no Category:Albums by recording venue structure, for good reason, since the recording location is rarely, if ever, defining of the album itself (see Chronological list of recordings made at Abbey Road Studios for the approach taken for a much more notable recording studio). Such a structure would add further category clutter to album articles, particularly as some albums are recorded in multiple locations depending on artiste availability. Indigo Ranch is, at the time of writing, a redlink, so the information can't be added to that article. BencherliteTalk 23:04, 1 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:The Script singles

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The result of the discussion was: rename. Kbdank71 18:29, 9 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Propose renaming Category:The Script singles to Category:The Script songs
Nominator's rationale: Rename per standard of Category:Songs by artist. BencherliteTalk 22:24, 1 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:People from Barcelona, Spain

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The result of the discussion was: merge Category:People from Barcelona, Spain to Category:People from Barcelona. The article is at Barcelona. Angus McLellan (Talk) 01:07, 11 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Suggest merging Category:People from Barcelona, Spain to Category:People from Barcelona
Nominator's rationale: Merge as duplicate. BencherliteTalk 22:20, 1 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:The Script

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The result of the discussion was: delete. Kbdank71 18:32, 9 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Category:The Script ( | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Nominator's rationale: Delete as eponymous overcategorization - just the main article and album/singles sub-cats; the material is sufficiently linked through the main article The Script (band). Note: category had two songs and an album in it that were already in the singles/album sub-categories, which I removed from the head category for being duplicative categorization prior to this nomination. BencherliteTalk 22:18, 1 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Russian ambassadors to the United States

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The result of the discussion was: keep. Kbdank71 18:35, 9 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Propose renaming Category:Russian ambassadors to the United States to Category:Ambassadors of Russia to the United States
Nominator's rationale: Whilst Russian ambassadors is obvious these are 'of Russia', Russian can also denote ethnicity, and to keep this category inline with its parent, Category:Ambassadors of Russia, it should probably be renamed. Россавиа Диалог 21:13, 1 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Russian ambassadors to the United Kingdom

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The result of the discussion was: keep. Kbdank71 18:34, 9 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Propose renaming Category:Russian ambassadors to the United Kingdom to Category:Ambassadors of Russia to the United Kingdom
Nominator's rationale: Whilst Russian ambassadors is obvious these are 'of Russia', Russian can also denote ethnicity, and to keep this category inline with its parent, Category:Ambassadors of Russia, it should probably be renamed. Россавиа Диалог 21:13, 1 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Russian ambassadors to Ukraine

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The result of the discussion was: keep. Kbdank71 18:32, 9 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Propose renaming Category:Russian ambassadors to Ukraine to Category:Ambassadors of Russia to Ukraine
Nominator's rationale: Whilst Russian ambassadors is obvious these are 'of Russia', Russian can also denote ethnicity, and to keep this category inline with its parent, Category:Ambassadors of Russia, it should probably be renamed. Россавиа Диалог 21:12, 1 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Russian ambassadors to Israel

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The result of the discussion was: keep. Kbdank71 18:33, 9 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Propose renaming Category:Russian ambassadors to Israel to Category:Ambassadors of Russia to Israel
Nominator's rationale: Whilst Russian ambassadors is obvious these are 'of Russia', Russian can also denote ethnicity, and to keep this category inline with its parent, Category:Ambassadors of Russia, it should probably be renamed. Россавиа Диалог 21:12, 1 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Russian and Soviet ambassadors to the United Nations

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The result of the discussion was: Rename to Category:Soviet ambassadors to the United Nations to match the form of most entries in Category:Ambassadors to the United Nations. Vegaswikian (talk) 19:45, 7 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Propose renaming Category:Russian and Soviet ambassadors to the United Nations to Category:Ambassadors of the Soviet Union to the United Nations
Nominator's rationale: I have created Category:Ambassadors of Russia to the United Nations for those ambassadors who are/were reps of Russia to the UN. The Soviet Union and Russia are not the same entity, and this renaming goes to furthering the separation of "Russian and Soviet" categories. The suggested name is inline with Category:Ambassadors of the Soviet Union and Category:Ambassadors to the United Nations Россавиа Диалог 21:03, 1 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Ancient African Kingdom

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The result of the discussion was: articlify per nom to get it out of category space; RM for a better name. Kbdank71 18:39, 9 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Convert to article Category:Ancient African Kingdom to article Ancient African kingdoms or any better ideas
Nominator's rationale: Misplaced article in category space. BencherliteTalk 18:04, 1 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Jordin Sparks

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The result of the discussion was: delete. Kbdank71 18:36, 9 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Category:Jordin Sparks ( | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Nominator's rationale: Delete as eponymous overcategorization - the material is sufficiently linked through the main article Jordin Sparks and {{Jordin Sparks}}. Note: category had two songs in it that were already in the songs sub-category, which I removed from the head category for being duplicative categorization prior to this nomination. BencherliteTalk 17:16, 1 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Dutch poeple of Namibian descent

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The result of the discussion was: rename. Kbdank71 18:37, 9 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Propose renaming Category:Dutch poeple of Namibian descent to Category:Dutch people of Namibian descent
Nominator's rationale: Spelling correction TNX-Man 15:39, 1 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Criticism of Calvinism

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The result of the discussion was: delete; empty. Kbdank71 18:42, 9 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Category:Criticism of Calvinism ( | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Nominator's rationale: Delete per WP:OCAT#OPINION. Creator of the cat agrees at Category_talk:Criticism of Calvinism. --Flex (talk/contribs) 14:43, 1 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment: Agreed. I don't think this one is out of line in principle, just that there are no articles in it at present (by consent of the creator who added a number to it) and none that I know of that would pass WP:OCAT#OPINION. --Flex (talk/contribs) 16:20, 1 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Yes, I suppose I could have suggested that to him/her rather than doing it myself. In any case, this now qualifies for speedy delete for having been empty for 4+ days. --Flex (talk/contribs) 02:19, 7 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:People associated with York and Yorkshire

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The result of the discussion was: delete. Kbdank71 18:43, 9 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Category:People associated with York and Yorkshire ( | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Nominator's rationale: Newly created, 4 entries, redundant to C:People from Yorkshire Deiz talk 14:14, 1 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Carolus Linnaeus

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The result of the discussion was: rename. Kbdank71 18:44, 9 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Propose renaming Category:Carolus Linnaeus to Category:Carl Linnaeus
Nominator's rationale: To bring into line with the title of the main article (Carl Linnaeus). Eleassar my talk 13:55, 1 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:King-James-Only Movement

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The result of the discussion was: rename. Kbdank71 18:44, 9 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Propose renaming Category:King-James-Only Movement to Category:King James Only movement
Nominator's rationale: Rename. Caps per WP:NAME and removed hyphens per use in the reliable sources cited in the main article. Both of these match the recently renamed main article. --Flex (talk/contribs) 13:23, 1 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Kaiser Chiefs covers

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The result of the discussion was: rename. Kbdank71 18:46, 9 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Propose renaming Category:Kaiser Chiefs covers to Category:Kaiser Chiefs album covers
Nominator's rationale: Per parent category Category:Album covers and to avoid ambiguity with 'cover versions'. -- roundhouse0 (talk) 10:18, 1 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:The Everly Brothers

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The result of the discussion was: Keep but only as a Template:Parent category. - jc37 07:55, 14 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Category:The Everly Brothers ( | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Nominator's rationale: Does a band really need their own category, containing nothing but said band's article, songs, and a link to a related guitar? I thought that was what "See also" sections were for. Vianello (talk) 06:45, 1 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete - eponymous overcategorization, main article serves as an appropriate navigational hub for the material. Otto4711 (talk) 15:48, 1 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete, the children of one of the Brothers shouldn't be categorized under the band's category, and the guitar is mentioned in the article about the band and vice versa. Overcategorization by name, per multiple precedents. BencherliteTalk 08:25, 2 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep – the purpose of a category is to collect related articles together, and this collects together the items contained in the subcategories. By all means rename to 'Items related to The Everly Brothers' (as 'eponymous' categories seem to be allowed only to a few Greats, chosen in what appears to me to be a wholly arbitrary fashion). -- roundhouse0 (talk) 08:56, 2 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • The subcategories gather the articles in the subcategories. The parent category isn't needed to gather them again. The main article also gathers the material through links to the contents of the subcategories so again the parent category is not needed. This material is not so complex that an eponymous category is warranted for it. Otto4711 (talk) 10:34, 2 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • comment so far, no valid reason has been advanced as to why this category should be deleted. One editor said one could find the subcats by looking in the main article. This is factually untrue. The article does not reference these categories. Hmains (talk) 02:28, 4 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Airlines by country templates

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The result of the discussion was: merge Category:"Airlines of" templates to Category:Airlines by country templates. Angus McLellan (Talk) 22:21, 15 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Category:Airlines by country templates ( | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Nominator's rationale: Superceded by "Airlines of" templates. Sardanaphalus (talk) 05:22, 1 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose Having categories with " in the cat name hasn't been done before, as far as I can tell, and Category:Airlines by country templates seems to not be confusing. I don't see any discussion taking place for this move? I would be keeping Category:Airlines by country templates, and deleting Category:"Airlines of" templates. --Россавиа Диалог 21:07, 1 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Well, among others, I've seen "Politics of" templates; but, if not "Airlines of" templates, how about Airlines of country templates? Seems a little more accurate to me. Sardanaphalus (talk) 11:09, 5 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
No, "by" is more accurate. To show more clearly: "Templates of airlines by country".
The problem is that from what I can tell, "templates" is usually the "last word" in such names. So, if so, then Category:Airlines by country templates would seem to be the correct name.
And, if I had to choose, I'm also am not a fan of the quotes in the name, for various reasons. - jc37 08:09, 14 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Okay, request a bot moves the contents of "Airlines of" templates back to Airlines by country templates then deletes the former. Input above appreciated. Sardanaphalus (talk) 18:49, 14 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Whoever closes this can place a "reverse merge" request on the working page, if they determine that that's consensus. (Which it now looks to be.) - jc37 19:59, 15 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Allman Brothers

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The result of the discussion was: Rename all to match The Allman Brothers band. - jc37 08:12, 14 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Propose renaming Category:Allman Brothers to Category:The Allman Brothers Band
Nominator's rationale: Per main article. Also: Category:Allman Brothers Band albums to Category:The Allman Brothers Band albums and Category:Allman Brothers Band songs to Category:The Allman Brothers Band songs. —Justin (koavf)T☮C☺M☯ 05:01, 1 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • comment so far, no valid reason has been advanced as to why this category should be deleted. One editor said one could find the subcats by looking in the main article or template. This is factually untrue. The article does not reference these categories. Hmains (talk) 02:33, 4 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Root Beer Stands

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The result of the discussion was: rename. Kbdank71 18:48, 9 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Propose renaming Category:Root Beer Stands to Category:Root beer stands
Nominator's rationale: Speedy rename, doesn't need the excess capitals. Ten Pound Hammer and his otters(Broken clamshells•Otter chirps) 02:08, 1 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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