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The result was delete. Courcelles 00:17, 25 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Unsourced article about planned event of no apparent notability to take place in 2015. Speedied by another ed. as nonsense, but speedy declined. DGG ( talk ) 19:32, 18 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Delete Was there something wrong with my WP:PROD reasoning [1] or did we just have a time-delayed edit conflict of some sort? I declined the speedy as it was nominated as patent nonsense, which it was not.WP:CSD#G1 defines this criterion as: Pages consisting entirely of incoherent text or gibberish with no meaningful content or history. This excludes poor writing, partisan screeds, obscene remarks, implausible theories, vandalism and hoaxes, fictional material, coherent non-English material, and poorly translated material. (emphasis added) Beeblebrox (talk) 19:36, 18 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

See, that's the problem. According to WP:NONSENSE, incoherent text isn't the only kind of nonsense. And I have seen many a nonsense article speedily deleted because it featured ridiculous content. Anyway, delete. It doesn't even say what the name of this event is. Erpert (let's talk about it) 20:46, 18 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Well, we are in basic agreement that this is an inappropriate article that needs to go, but I don't see how it meets any of the definitions of nonsense because a reasonable person could easily tell what the article is supposed to be about, it is supposed to be about future television series where singers compete each week. It's unsourced and most likely completely a figment of the author's imagination, but it is not incomprehensible. Beeblebrox (talk) 21:57, 18 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Delete Crystal-ball nonsense. EEng (talk) 19:41, 18 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

• Note: This debate has been included in the list of Music-related deletion discussions. -- • Gene93k (talk) 20:11, 18 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Delete no reliable sources can be found, fails WP:CRYSTAL. Neptune5000 (talk) 20:22, 18 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

• Note: This debate has been included in the list of Television-related deletion discussions. —• Gene93k (talk) 23:12, 18 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
• Speedy delete for being a hoax per WP:CSD#G3. It wouldn't take four to five years to get a show on the air which would just be a ripoff of Pop Idol/The X Factor; if this was an actual television show, it would be on the air no later than next year, and it would have a title, and there would be sources, but we can't even search for sources because the article creator didn't bother to make up a title for this fake show. --Metropolitan90 (talk) 02:38, 19 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Again, that would be declined because of the deliberately narrow scope of that criterion. A hoax must be so blatant as to constitute WP:VANDALISM in order to be speedy deleted. Beeblebrox (talk) 03:02, 19 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Well, in any event, this is one article where I find it very hard to assume good faith. We've got here a television show with no title, no production company, no network, created by a person with no known film or television credits, which isn't going to air until more than four years from now. If we can't speedily delete it, I certainly wish we could. --Metropolitan90 (talk) 11:15, 19 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete as unverifiable. --Erik Lönnrot (talk) 13:17, 21 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete - unverifiable, unsupported, and therefore unencyclopedic. --DOOMSDAYER520 (Talk|Contribs) 20:04, 21 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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