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The result was merge to Fictional locations in The Railway Series. Spartaz ^Humbug! 16:20, 15 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Non-notable fictional location. This could use a merge to Fictional Locations (The Railway Series), but given the amount of content that would have to be removed for a merge, I think an AfD is prudent. Chase me ladies, I'm the Cavalry (talk) 13:46, 6 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

• merge+redirect -- Background -- In the world of the Railway Series books by the Rev W Awdry there are numerous settlements described. A few years ago, most of these had their own stubby article on WP, along with almost every individual character. The 'Thomas' WikiProject was formed, in part, with a view to rationalise this coverage, and the majority of stubs were lumped together into a few list articles. Some of the more significant ones remained as individual articles, especially those which existed in both the books and the TV series (there is considerable overlap, but enough differences that WP descriptions are kept segregated) as this was a convenient way of handling the links from both worlds. Tidmouth, as the largest and most important town on the Island of Sodor, naturally had more written about it.

I agree that Tidmouth doesn't really warrant an article of its own, and further, the crossover between books and TV is minimal. Consequently the content should be merged to the two list pages (Fictional locations in The Railway Series and Fictional locations in Thomas and Friends) We need to check how much of the current information is available in the normal reference sources (about the books) and provide appropriate references -- facts relating to the railways are worth retaining, but some of the background history can be filtered out.

I'm happy to do the referencing and merging, but it is not a five-minute job and I'm not supposed to modify in this way while the AfD is active. -- EdJogg (talk) 14:37, 6 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

• comment/update -- in the main reference work, the Rev Awdry devotes two pages to describing Tidmouth (ie a comfortable short WP article's -worth!) and notes no less than seventeen 'references' in the books (ie usually pictures of events that occurred there) -- this is not really surprising as it is the main terminus station and loco shed on the island. -- EdJogg (talk) 01:10, 7 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep (but I'd happily defer to EdJogg for anything Thomas)

We clearly need an overall article at Fictional Locations (The Railway Series) for anything too minor otherwise, but I'd see Tidmouth as sufficiently important to justify an individual article. I do like the idea of the split location articles though, if the books & TV are really so far apart. Andy Dingley (talk) 15:08, 6 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

• Note: This debate has been included in the list of Literature-related deletion discussions. -- • Gene93k (talk) 20:39, 6 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
• Note: This debate has been included in the list of Fictional elements-related deletion discussions. -- • Gene93k (talk) 20:40, 6 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

• Merge and redirect per EdJogg's fair and dispassionate reasoning. --Orange Mike | Talk 00:44, 7 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
• Merge to Fictional locations in The Railway Series. Tidmouth's individual article is currently in a bad wiki shape (not establishing WP:NOTABILITY in the article, major WP:IN-UNIVERSE problems, stubby), but as long as a location list exists, it's usually best to try a merge/redirect instead of deletion. – sgeureka ^t•c

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