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The result was merge‎ to Ptenothrix. asilvering (talk) 03:50, 21 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Ptenothrix species 4 (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View log | edits since nomination)

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Never scientifically named, and thus fails WP:NSPECIES. One of several preliminary recognised species mentioned in a paper. These can be covered in the genus article. Hemiauchenia (talk) 18:27, 13 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Animal, Science, and Organisms. Hemiauchenia (talk) 18:27, 13 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Merge with Ptenothrix. Coverage on these recognisable but undescribed springtails is unfortunately quite minimal - I haven't been able to find anything on sp. 4 besides its mention on collembola.org, which is obviously not enough to build an article on nor to meet any notability standards. Hemiauchenia, you say sp. 4 was recognised in a paper, can you give me the citation/link the paper? I haven't been able to find anything more than the briefest possible mention (eg. presence of the name on iNaturalist/BugGuide) anywhere besides collembola.org, but either way, I strongly doubt there's anywhere near enough to meet WP:GNG. Ethmostigmus 🌿 (talk | contribs) 04:54, 16 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I think I was mistaken. I must have erroneously assumed that the species was described in a scientific paper when it was only described on collembola.org. My apologies. Hemiauchenia (talk) 05:16, 16 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

No worries :) Ethmostigmus 🌿 (talk | contribs) 06:29, 16 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

there is much mention on iNaturalist in the springtail community. I might Link up some descriptions later on from different observations I have posted. Lark999 (talk) 21:24, 19 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Both iNaturalist and, to a lesser extent, Bugguide, should not be considered authoritative sources for Wikipedia. Brendansoloughlin (talk) 01:05, 20 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I would bet quite a bit that I could find others as well from around the community. as of now there is progress being made in trying to describe these species. the issue is that the technology for the genetics is super expensive to use and mostly citizen scientists are studying these such as myself. Lark999 (talk) 21:28, 19 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed- Undescribed species, no matter how recognizable, do not meet the conditions for their own Wiki articles. I vote for delete until it is described officially. Which is not that far off by the way, I know someone working on them :) Brendansoloughlin (talk) 00:46, 20 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Merge with Ptenothrix Brendansoloughlin (talk) 01:27, 20 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed, both Ptenothrix species 3 and species 4 having articles on Wikipedia without any formal description doesn't make much sense. At the moment all that we know is that they are unique color forms, but given the diversity in forms of the suggested "sp.3" there's no real evidence that any subset of the undescribed Ptenothrix are not the same species or already described species. Avjjj (talk) 14:37, 20 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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