Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Lindsey Vonn in 2010
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The result was delete. Courcelles 12:37, 19 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
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I stumbled across this when looking up Lindsey Vonn to see who in the hell she was and was astounded to see we had an article called "Lindsey Vonn in 2010." First of all please note that there are at least a couple of other articles along these lines (Rafael Nadal in 2010 and Roger Federer in 2010) but rather than bundling them all in this AfD I'm just putting forward the Vonn one for deletion to see what folks think and we can go from there.
I'm not sure how widespread these "living person in 2010" articles are but I think they're a terrible idea for several reasons (and are quite different from general topic articles like "2010 in politics" or "2010 in reggae").
A) This takes splitting off content and summary style to absurd heights, as a person with a lengthy career could have 50 such articles. The relationship between these articles and the main bio article would be a strange one--either every section of the main article would be a summary style of one year or we would group a number of years together in an arbitrary fashion. Neither of these would serve readers well.
B) Calendar years are a rather strange way to divide up a person's life. Sticking with sporting figures, for American football players who make the playoffs, we'd have one article that described their regular season play and then have to say "click on the 2011 article to see what happened in the playoffs."
C) Most importantly, and herein lies my main reason for putting the article up for AfD, this kind of thing is a BLP nightmare. If this became a trend we could literally have thousands of these articles. They would be under-watched and ripe for defamatory claims.
I would advocate deleting this, or possibly merging some material back into Lindsey Vonn if that's appropriate. If other editors feel that we should not have this article then I would suggest locating all similar articles and doing a bundled AfD, or simply finding them and redirecting them back to the relevant parent article. Sorry for the lengthy nom but I wanted to lay out a more detailed case since there are other articles likes this. Bigtimepeace | talk | contribs 10:06, 12 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete As with List of NFL records held by Jerry Rice, which is also nominated for deletion, this amount of detail belongs in the article about the athlete. Normally, I'd say merge, but the concept of devoting an entire page for a year in the life of anyone should be deterred. The minutiae of how she fared in each race held in 2010 doesn't merit its own article; the obvious answer to the "What's next, _____?" question is Lindsey Vonn in 2011, but it also sets the precedent for diaries about any person in 2011-- Charlie Sheen in 2011, Chad Ochocinco in 2011, John Wall in 2011, Sarah Palin in 2011, etc. Way too much to fit in the Lindsey Vonn article, perhaps, but that's what editing is all about. One can list everything, or one can have links like this [1]. Mandsford 14:16, 12 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Sportspeople-related deletion discussions. -- Jclemens-public (talk) 15:25, 12 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete - This isn't the Vonnopedia, we don't need to see this level of detail, for this or any other person. It just isn't important or notable enough to classify/categorize by year. Tarc (talk) 15:53, 12 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete - This is just rediculous. LiteralKa (talk) 21:39, 12 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete – I'm not sure how vulnerable such pages would be in BLP terms (this one looks to have escaped serious issues), but I do think that having articles on sportspersons' individual seasons is too much in general. I appreciate the intention behind this article (not overloading the main article), but its existence does reveal a summary style problem. Some of the material probably should be included in the main article, but not a complete recap of every event she competed in. Merge what's deemed to be important, and dump the rest. And yes, the precedent set by keeping this would be troublesome. Giants2008 (27 and counting) 23:22, 12 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
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