The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was redirect‎ to List of schools in Lagos. @HandsomeBoy: please nominate other articles you feel need discussion and consensus can decide. There is no guaranteed status based on another AfD. Star Mississippi 22:41, 10 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Lagos State Model College Badore (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View log | edits since nomination)

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Non-notable school. The only source (the second's link is dead) is the school's own website, and I found very little reliable sources with significant coverage online. '''[[User:CanonNi]]''' (talk • contribs) 12:21, 3 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Schools and Nigeria. '''[[User:CanonNi]]''' (talk • contribs) 12:21, 3 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Education-related deletion discussions. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 12:39, 3 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete It’s a small high school, one of tens of thousands in a country of tens of millions. No evidence or even allegations of anything special. Bearian (talk) 10:09, 6 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep: As at the time this article was created, WP:SCHOOLOUTCOMES was still in effect and I can remember in the aftermath one of the consensus was that it should be more applied to futuristic articles rather with older articles. In its current state, from a referencing perspective, the article might not contain much but that is because of the digital coverage of secondary schools in its demography, especially one that is tuition-free by the government.

However, despite these challenges, Lagos State Model College Badore is one of the few high schools that manages to still have numerous mentions in multiple reliable sources from time to time, it might not be substantial but there are many sources which are actually independent, so I strongly disagree with the nom and !delete above. Just imagine an high school defeats all government-owned schools in New York (or the commercial capital of the US) in a very top and historic competition, will you still classify such an high school as "small and nothing special"? Please read this and this. There are still many more sources, I remember the school producing a one-day governor of Lagos State in the early 2000s.

If the state of the article is the issue, I understand that and it can be improved but certainly not being a "small school", and I am saying this being very factual as someone that have independently researched multiple secondary schools in Lagos. HandsomeBoy (talk) 21:26, 8 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

There is no grandfathering in of old pages. All schools must meet WP:NORG or WP:GNG. Thanks for the two sources. These are, in fact, primary sources (news reporting), and the real issue with them is they give nothing we can use to write an in depth page about the school. We are looking for articles from which we can write the page. Histories would be ideal, but secondary sources that analyse the school in any way can all be used. Do you happen to know who the governor of the state was? Notable alumni are relevant. Sirfurboy🏄 (talk) 21:37, 8 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Let me spill some ugly truth especially since you said: All schools must meet WP:NORG or WP:GNG, if you are waiting to see multiple independent significant coverage in reliable source for a public secondary school in this demography, you will never get that. Reliable sources do not care about secondary schools except they are paid. The best you will see is when news-worthy events happen in the school, they might cover it. That's all. As for the governor, I did a basic Google search and she is actually the first female governor in Lagos ever. You can read 1, 2. HandsomeBoy (talk) 22:54, 8 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

If I am reading that source right, the student won a spelling bee and got to act as the governor for a day as a prize. That doesn't make her notable, nor does it add to notability of the school. Sirfurboy🏄 (talk) 23:04, 8 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Notability is not inherited, and notable alumni doesn't make the school notable. '''[[User:CanonNi]]''' (talk • contribs) 01:12, 9 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Redirect to List of schools in Lagos where it is listed. Per HandsomeBoy, there is no coverage in independent reliable secondary sources. I found a handful of news reports - an extremly small number, in fact. These are primary and don't give anything to say about the school itself. HandsomeBoy is correct that this is largely down to where the school is located, and the paucity of English language sources is not unusual for Nigerian schools, and it is unfortunate. However the purpose of location of sources is to allow an encyclopaedic article to be written. Without sources the article is doomed to be an unverifiable stub. If it is the case that such sources will never arise then it is also the case that we cannot have the article. Wikipedia is a lagging indicator of notability. I would be hopeful that some history of the school will be written one day, and when that happens the redirect can be overwritten and the page restored based on the coverage in reliable secondary sources. Sirfurboy🏄 (talk) 09:27, 9 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete or Redirect to List of schools in Lagos. Even when taking Googles geographical bias in account, there are insufficient independent sources that hint to the school notability. The Banner talk 17:59, 9 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Comment: I suggest whatever the consensus at the end of this AFD, be also applied to Lagos State Junior Model College Badore. If consensus is to delete, then both should be deleted. If consensus is to redirect, then both should be redirected. I am saying this because the senior school is more historic and has more coverage than the junior school, so there is no point wasting Wikipedians time on another AFD. Systematic bias in my opinion, but that is consensus and we all have to respect that. HandsomeBoy (talk) 12:57, 10 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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