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The result was Delete. --Tikiwont 09:18, 30 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Jewish Christmas (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View log)

Neologism that never really picked up. Brewcrewer 04:02, 22 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

• Merge to Christmas Content seems to be notable. But should merge to Christmas since they are related. Chris! _ct 04:08, 22 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
• Comment Let's see, we have this article, the article Chrismukkah and the article Hanukkah bush. Clearly we need at most one article for all of them. So, either merge them all together into one article, or into something else. Secular Jewish culture struck me as a possibility, but it's long already. Does any of this occur outside the United States? (and possibly Canada) maybe create American Jewish Traditions. CitiCat ^♫ 04:20, 22 October 2007 (UTC
• Comment. This article is not about the same concept as Chrismukkah or Hanukkah bush. The activities described on this page are not a portmanteau of Christmas and Hanukkah, and don't really have much to do with Christmas other than taking place on December 25. Rather, it refers to common practices among American Jews who don't spend Dec. 25 celebrating Christmas, but who have the day off and are looking for something to do. --Metropolitan90 06:04, 22 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

They still can easily fall under one umbrella, they are all relate to how the Christmas "culture" influences members of the Jewish religion (or heritage) in America. CitiCat ^♫ 22:29, 24 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

• Comment We need reliable sources that the term here is notable since the stated term is a proper noun. If a common noun is intended (e.g. "Activities Jews do on December 25 or similar), then the article title should be changed to a common noun. A proper noun needs WP:RS for the term itself. Currently, the phrase "Jewish Christmas" appears to come from a blog. Assuming a notable term can be obtained and sourcing issues addressed, the article should be careful to limit its scope -- there's no such thing in, for example, Israel. In this particular case, a more general article on what members of minority religions do on holidays celebrated by the majority might be appropriate, including what Christians do in e.g. Israel, India, or Turkey, what Hindus or Moslems do in the U.S., etc. Best, --Shirahadasha 20:02, 22 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete per WP:NEO --Shirahadasha 18:52, 25 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete this neologism per nom. Violation of WP:NEO and WP:NOR..Merge to Messianic religious practice. IZAK 02:22, 23 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Clearly wrong to so merge. The article content is about what a particular subset of non-Christians do on 25 December, that subset is "Jews that are not Christians". Your suggested merge target is not related at all. Did you even look at the article? GRBerry 02:39, 23 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • I agree with GRBerry. The activities described in this article have nothing to do with Messianic Judaism. --Metropolitan90 07:44, 23 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    • Hi GRBerry and Metropolitan90: Based on your input I have reconsidered. My vote now is to delete entirely. Thanks, IZAK 08:12, 23 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
• Note: This debate has been included in the list of Christianity-related deletions. IZAK 02:22, 23 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
• Note: This debate has been included in the list of Judaism-related deletions. IZAK 02:22, 23 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete neologism. --MPerel 06:08, 24 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete There are source that reference the term, but all of them seem to be references to Hanukkah and its role as a Jewish counterholiday to Christmas or in other meanings that don't correspond to the definition used here. If you remember the reading comprehension problems you'd get in school asking for what the title of a reading text should be, I would say that this article should be titled "What Jews Do On Christmas (While the Gentiles Are Celebrating)." If that's the definition, I see little support in the article, but nothing seems to support "Jewish Christmas" as a term to cover this phenomenon. Nor would I see any other article as an appropriate target to merge this article's content. Alansohn 02:43, 26 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete this is effectively an article on "what some Jews do in American culture" - a merge to a generic article on Christmas would be inappropriate - if there is an article on Judaism and American society then that's the sort of place this might be discussed. -Doc^g 09:19, 26 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete per others. Non-notable term. Doctorfluffy 22:54, 28 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete no reliable sources. I'd support redirecting, but I can't figure out where to redirect it to, so delete. Yahel Guhan 00:43, 30 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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