The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep‎. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 06:26, 21 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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This subject appears to fail WP:GNG for lack of WP:SIGCOV by unrelated parties. Interviews, WP:BLPSPS websites and the like don't help here. This subject also fails WP:NAUTHOR because contributions appear not to be very significant. And PEN New England Awards do not confer automatic notability. JFHJr (㊟) 01:11, 14 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: People, Authors, and United States of America. JFHJr (㊟) 01:11, 14 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep, or rename. Her book, Dogtown, is notable, having won a PEN award and been reviewed by, e.g., The New York Times. We should have an article about the book or its author. pburka (talk) 04:30, 14 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  Clarification: apart from one sentence, this page is about Dogtown, her notable book. The content should be kept. We can rename the page or leave it alone. In my opinion, it's often preferable to have pages about authors rather than books, since she may write more books in the future. pburka (talk) 16:34, 14 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  With little to no WP:SIGCOV about the person, I'd find moving the article to the book's namespace more supportable than leaving this BLP alone. Especially since no other noteworthy publication has emerged at this time. "Maybe" isn't a valid reason to keep a BLP with little to no foundational biographical material about the author, at least which is published by unrelated reliable sources in a non-interview format. Cheers! JFHJr (㊟) 17:50, 15 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Georgia (U.S. state), Massachusetts, and New York. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 06:16, 14 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep. Per WP:AUTHOR#3, Such a person is notable if... The person has created or played a major role in co-creating a significant or well-known work or collective body of work. In addition, such work must have been the primary subject of multiple independent periodical articles or reviews. Dogtown has received reviews in the NY Times (as noted above), as well as Kirkus, Publishers' Weekly, and Brevity. Thus, she passes AUTHOR and should be kept, regardless of whether a page exists for Dogtown or not. (Dogtown would independently qualify for a page, through, per WP:NBOOK.) Dclemens1971 (talk) 19:55, 19 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep and move as suggested by pburka. The subject is notable, but notability is no guarantee of a stand-alone article, and in this case it makes sense to use our editorial discretion to have one article about the book rather than two pages that more-or-less duplicate one another. Extraordinary Writ (talk) 01:37, 21 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  Alright, I'm willing to accept that consensus. Because the book's name space is currently a redirect to this BLP name space, it'll take an admin action that I could not do by simply WP:NACing myself. I agree if there's anywhere for this content, it's not in the name space of a person whose biographical information is so scantly supported. Thanks for your consideration, Extraordinary Writ. JFHJr (㊟) 02:14, 21 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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