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The result was delete‎. With clear sockpuppet and/or canvassed arguments discounted, the consensus is to delete. Seraphimblade ^{Talk to me} 01:55, 20 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Anurag Halder (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View log | edits since nomination)

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Already deleted once, Looks non-notable Singer please check over the notability all are paid pieces of a normal cover. I removed one paid PR in Outlook India. Yousuf Ibn Ahmad (talk) 15:44, 30 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

• Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: People, Arts, Music, Hinduism, India, and West Bengal. Yousuf Ibn Ahmad (talk) 15:44, 30 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

• Note: the "Soak in the sunshine" article feels very PR-y and the "Check Out Latest" feels way too brief to count as "notable coverage".--Gen. Quon_[Talk] 21:13, 30 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete it's all fluffy celebrity stories that I find, nothing we can use. Oaktree b (talk) 23:20, 30 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep See Google News for sources. Nothing has paid PR. Zee news and others are coverage. Show us proof that is paid PR. The 1st time deletions maybe for poor reference source. Now article created with reference 2nd time. So keep this article. comment added by Cinefilestudio (talk • contribs) 05:33, 1 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

How you think it's paid PR? Do you have any hard source to proof that. You can't targeting a article without checking notable coverage. Don't waste your and wikipedia time. Atlest give me proof or evidence that all references are paid. If you can't then please finished this nomination. Cinefilestudio (talk) 13:17, 1 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

"Check out the latest" is what promotional content is about. Oaktree b (talk) 13:01, 2 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

To Oaktree b (talk) Brother I have check all then I proceed for creation. I am alreay contributing lots of Wikipedia here and I know wht is promotion and wht is source news. You should show me a written proof that is paid otherwise stop this discussion. And for your kind info my page alreday review by a Wikipedia administrator. So just removed this deletion tag. Thanks. — Preceding signed comment added by Cinefilestudio (talk • contribs) 13:33, 2 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I have shown you proof, urging readers to "Check this out!" is very promotional, Thanks brother. Oaktree b (talk) 13:38, 8 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep Noted: Unnecessary of Afd tag, See ref, enough notability. must keep. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2402:3A80:1F0A:7B92:4D70:1F7A:1EF:2420 (talk) 14:26, 2 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete. Compared to the previously deleted version of this article, honestly not much has changed. All the sources are pretty clearly promotional, with the popularity of songs described in flowery words instead of any substantial stats or milestones. None of the claims unrelated to music production can be backed up by sources, including his birthday and education. The Times of India article is centered around the song instead of the subject himself. Other coverage of the subject that I found are about the same quality. Tutwakhamoe (talk) 03:54, 8 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep. Compared to the previous articles this one has so many differences and new source. Once again theirs is no promotional sources I have been gone through with the reporter of times of India and all news I have checked. If you have any evidence that all is promotional source please submit proofs from the news portals In written agreement otherwise don't much argue about it. Please removed the afd tag. I request to the Wikipedia administrator to look for it. Cause my article is alreday been reviewed by an administrator. comment added by Cinefilestudio (talk • contribs) 04:46, 8 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

  Voting multiple times and using unloggined shared IP address to vote doesn't help, dude. If the journalists are really writing about an artist for big story instead of for promotion, they'll elaborate on the achievement of the artist (sales, audiences sizes, milestones, etc.), dive deeper into the artist's past, or at the very least they won't straight up tell the readers to check out the new songs. The current sources seem to be in a writing competition to see who can describe the subject and his songs in the most dramatic way. The part about his personal life, on the other hand, got no citation at all. With the current sources at hand, it's not going to pass WP:GNG and WP:NBIO. Tutwakhamoe (talk) 05:21, 8 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

  Dude, I have already chcek the article and also corrected which is not discrib in source news. It's alreday pass the review before 7 days. For your kind information please see news 18, and Bhaskar. Their has written about his career. And by the the coverage is must be a vital source if the artist has no credibility then the reporter or journalist doesn't need to write about a fake artist. Just show me proof that publicity are fake and promotional. Or stop the discussion. Cinefilestudio (talk) 11:14, 8 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

  @Cinefilestudio: Your stance is very clear on this issue, but you cannot vote more than once in an AfD discussion. See WP:AFDR. Hey man im josh (talk) 14:05, 9 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Neither of those are extensive coverage of him or in reliable sources. Writing about his career is fine, but we need better sources. No publicity is fake, "Check this out!" is promotional. I can't explain it to you otherwise. Oaktree b (talk) 13:38, 8 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

100% No Oaktree b first if you said it's promotional or publicity then you have to explain or proof it to Wikipedia these source are promotional. I have checked all alsso see source Ibtimes India. And news 18. Or give me a written letter from the any of the news source which you are telling is promotional. Please don't waste further time of mine and wikipedia for this verified person. And close this discussion🙏. Cinefilestudio (talk) 21:36, 8 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: More input is clearly necessary…
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, CycloneYoris ^talk! 09:18, 8 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

• Must Keep Compared to his previous [1], honestly this current one is a very changed article, and previous one had no sources, i agree for delete the previously version, but this one has more coverages and notability of the artist and writing is different, I vote for keep. Riku don (talk) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 42.105.192.105 (talk) 14:41, 9 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete: Does not appear to meet WP:NMUSIC or WP:GNG. I'm bothered that Cinefilestudio has voted twice, that they badger those on the discussion, and that the other two keep votes came from unregistered users. Not going to accuse anybody of funny business, but something in this AfD doesn't quite smell right. Note that the creator of the article reached out to me asking me to remove the AfD tag, which is what lead me to this AfD. I don't believe I'm violating the WP:CANVASSING rules as I'm not actually voting to keep the article. Hey man im josh (talk) 18:41, 10 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

  Hi [[User:Hey man im josh|Hey man im josh]] I wasn't know that I can't vote twice. I'm New contributor. But the article i have create have more than three high quality source with Wikipedia guidelines. And those source I have found for this artist not an independent source. All are major references. So I think as an artist this article should be stay on Wikipedia. That's all. And I also anware that this tag afd shouldn't be deleted by me or others Wikipedia contributor. Now I know and learning about more. If I was knew before then I would never ask you or anyone to remove it. I'm very sorry for my actions. I also have made so many improvement on the article after the AfD tag. Cinefilestudio (talk) 19:22, 10 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

• 'Keep: I have gone throw all the discussion and the article, As per WP:Notability this article has to many news source, also i check the user User:Yousuf_Ibn_Ahmad who tag this Afd to the article he is unregister and also been blocked by administer he put the tag from maybe an unregister account. anyway, i just put my own words for this article to make wikipedia safe and reliable. Im_reliable_god (talk) 15:03, 14 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

  Ahh, yes, an one-month old account with zero other edit and heads straight into one AfD, nothing suspicious at all. Tutwakhamoe (talk) 15:27, 15 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete: Pretty sad state of discussion with the sockpuppetry and such, but from my own glance through, there have not been any reliable sources with significant coverage. The IBT is a literal content farm that has been considered unreliable, the Times of India literally "pioneered" paid promotion, and Zee News has a conflict of interest where Anurag is signed to their label. The News18 sources are marginally reliable but are routine coverage of Bollywood songs that do not impart any real information that could be used to build a biography. Why? I Ask (talk) 07:30, 15 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep: I see... Well, Their has been total 11 news source, I take it 1 or 2 maybe promotional, But Times of India more than a high quality coverage from News18. its number 1 reliable news portal in India. and far better i know news portal are only coverage if the persona has talent and works sources. no one doing paid promotions in news, we don't have any proof of that. as per wikipedia guidelines and google news sources this article of Anurag halder is 100% reliable artist. So this article must be keep as soon as possible. Monition writer (talk) 14:46, 15 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

  Cool, check Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Cinefilestudio. You've derailed this discussion quite a bit. Why? I Ask (talk) 09:36, 15 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

  Hey dude, I am new user here, i think u misunderstand something. WP:No_personal_attacks in wikipedia. stay cool. i didn't derailed any discussion. i just come to vote what is write or wrong. Monition writer (talk) 10:29, 15 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete: Fails WP:GNG due to lack of significant coverage. Alvaldi (talk) 11:19, 15 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Note: All are notable news media has coverage this artist. If those not are reliable sources then which are? which is not significant coverage? I have found 2 times of India non promotional with news 18 hindi and bengali where the singer is based. Those are much enough significant coverage as per article brief data. And those are judging here to write non of those are clear sources thn pls brief me which is non notable and why with Proof. And which are notable news in india? Also note if this article should be deleted then this artist Santy_Sharma Wikipedia also should be deleted. I check and compare that anurag had much better news source from Santy Sharma. Cinefilestudio (talk) 18:13, 15 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete BLP, fails GNG and BIO. Source eval:

Comments	Source
Clearly promo, "Anurag Halder became a star from Zee Music's 'Kashtiyaan', now coming soon with his next song"	1. "Anurag Halder जी म्यूजिक के 'कश्तियां' से बने स्टार, अब जल्द ला रहे अगला सॉन्ग". Zee News (in Hindi). Retrieved 30 April 2023.
Clearly promo, "The joyous, sparkly and cheerful vibe of the song is perfect for taking a long romantic drive with your partner."	2. ^ https://m.timesofindia.com/entertainment/bengali/movies/news/singer-anurag-halder-happy-to-see-the-overwhelming-response-to-tere-naal/articleshow/99928398.cms
Promo, interview	3. ^ Desk, I. B. T. (21 August 2021). "Independent music will always be my first choice of working – Anurag Halder". www.ibtimes.co.in. Retrieved 30 April 2023.
Clearly promo "Anurag Halder's charms when he forced the students to dance on the song 'Faasla'!"	4. ^ "Anurag Halder का जलवा, जब Song 'Faasla' पर स्टूडेंट्स को झूमने पर कर दिया मजबूर!". News18 हिंदी (in Hindi). 10 October 2021. Retrieved 30 April 2023.
Clearly promo "Anurag shares his experience at the launch of his new track at a hotel in Gurgaon"	5. ^ https://www.bhaskar.com/local/delhi-ncr/gurgaon/news/lapadwas-romantic-music-is-very-much-liked-by-the-youth-anurag-halder-129402914.html
Promo, interview	6. ^ https://m.timesofindia.com/entertainment/bengali/music/singer-anurag-halder-says-performing-live-gives-him-an-adrenaline-rush/articleshow/100075018.cms
Clearly promo, "Soak in the sunshine and feel the breeze of love with Lapadva by Anurag Halder"	7. ^ "Soak in the sunshine and feel the breeze of love with Lapadva by Anurag Halder".
Duplicate of #1	8. ^ "Anurag Halder जी म्यूजिक के 'कश्तियां' से बने स्टार, अब जल्द ला रहे अगला सॉन्ग". Zee News (in Hindi). Retrieved 30 April 2023.
Clearly promo, "Tere Naal' Is Out Now: Singer Anurag Halder is back with a love song. The song is titled 'Tere Naal' in his voice. The music video is made."	9. ^ https://bengali.abplive.com/entertainment/love-song-tere-naal-sung-by-anurag-halder-is-out-starring-aishwarya-sen-and-riddhish-chowdhury-976677
Clearly promo, "Anurag Halder New Song: Aishwarya-Riddish duet! Anurag Halder's voice released love song 'Tere Naal'"	10. ^ https://bengali.news18.com/news/entertainment/anurag-halder-new-song-tere-naal-is-out-now-rds-1095572.html
States they were at an event.	11. ^ https://m.timesofindia.com/city/allahabad/bharatanatyam-enthralls-all-at-iiit-a-cultural-fest/amp_articleshow/96123905.cms
Clearly promo, "Check Out Latest Hindi 2020 Video Song 'Kashtiya' Sung By Anurag Halder"	12. ^ https://m.timesofindia.com/videos/entertainment/music/hindi/check-out-latest-hindi-2020-video-song-kashtiya-sung-by-anurag-halder/videoshow/75673864.cms?from=mdr

BEFORE showed nothing that meets IS RS with SIGCOV addressing the subject directly and indepth. WP:BLP states "Be very firm about the use of high-quality sources"'; BLPs need IS RS with SIGCOV addressing the subject directly and indepth for both content and notability per well known core policy (WP:V and WP:BLP) and guidelines (WP:BIO and WP:IS, WP:RS, WP:SIGCOV).  // Timothy :: talk  19:58, 17 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Discussion: Note First of all News media don't coverage any low class independent artist. Which i added those are notable news media coverage. how can you say it's promo? Promo and news articles are different. I request to administrator to verified all the news Also compared to another indian artist Wikipedia whts news he have. I found this artist on news 18 which is a reliable news in india. not for any song promo. So I made exactly same Wikipedia he was before with high quality source. But a unregister user put a AfD tag after that tag I also made so many improvement. And write wht is in the news. Check the history. And the how the article is look like. If it not a notable coverage then I would not made his articles. I have made many articles which are in Wikipedia with approved. Cinefilestudio (talk) 14:55, 18 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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