Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/2024 Orbic Air Eurocopter EC130 crash
- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was no consensus. Liz Read! Talk! 23:53, 11 February 2025 (UTC)
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- 2024 Orbic Air Eurocopter EC130 crash (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View log | edits since nomination)
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Non-notable aviation accident; though it resulted in six fatalities and no survivors, it doesn't meet the notability for events. Helicopter accidents are also common in aviation. ThisGuy (talk • contributions) 13:03, 21 January 2025 (UTC)
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- Merge: The crash itself is run-of-the-mill from an aviation point of view, and fails WP:EVENT in particular due to the lack of WP:CONTINUEDCOVERAGE beyond the initial news cycle, and lack of WP:LASTING effects. There are however some details that could be usefully merged to the articles of one or both of the notable people killed in this accident: Herbert Wigwe and Abimbola Ogunbanjo. After the merge, I'd suggest redirecting to Herbert Wigwe § Death as he seems to be the more notable of the two. Rosbif73 (talk) 13:29, 21 January 2025 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Events and Transportation. Aviationwikiflight (talk) 13:59, 21 January 2025 (UTC)
- Keep: I entirely disagree with the nom and the merge !voter. This is a clear-cut WP:GNG pass, WP:NEVENT aside, evidently from the sources and from a cursory search. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 15:29, 21 January 2025 (UTC)
- •Keep Per above, are we just purging aviation accidents and incidents in 2024? Lolzer3k 21:10, 21 January 2025 (UTC)
- Yes, the nominator unfortunately was before being blocked. - Epluribusunumyall (talk) 17:41, 28 January 2025 (UTC)
- Keep: how is an accident where six people died not notable? There are a lot of incidents in the same category with zero deaths. Nickpheas (talk) 21:06, 8 February 2025 (UTC)
- •Keep Per above, are we just purging aviation accidents and incidents in 2024? Lolzer3k 21:10, 21 January 2025 (UTC)
- Keep TG-article is currently blocked, but they may need to be banned from starting AfDs. There's a pattern here and it's getting ridiculous. SportingFlyer T·C 23:17, 24 January 2025 (UTC)
- Delete – Per WP:NOTNEWS and WP:EVENTCRIT – Addressing the possibility of a merge, I think that any relevant information included in this article is already included in Herbert Wigwe and Abimbola Ogunbanjo. – Per WP:GNG, "sources should be secondary sources, as those provide the most objective evidence of notability". None of the sources, in addition to coverage about a lawsuit, are secondary since none of them contained analysis, evaluation, interpretation, or synthesis of the event itself, with none of them providing significant or in-depth, continued coverage of the event with the coverage only briefly occurring in the aftermath of the accident. Aviationwikiflight (talk) 08:46, 25 January 2025 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗plicit 14:19, 28 January 2025 (UTC)- Nominator is currently blocked for what looks like a confirmed sock. – The Grid (talk) 14:31, 28 January 2025 (UTC)
- Indeed. But in this particular instance I think their nomination was justified, and their block shouldn't affect the outcome. For the avoidance of doubt, I stand by my merge vote (though on second thoughts I'd also back outright deletion, in that the utility of keeping a redirect is minimal). The only thing notable about this accident is the presence of notable people on board. Even if one admits that it could pass GNG on that basis, a merge still makes sense per WP:NOPAGE. Rosbif73 (talk) 15:16, 28 January 2025 (UTC)
- Keep per above, and article meeting WP:GNG, but also the nominator's current block should at very least allow this article to be closed with no consensus. - Epluribusunumyall (talk) 17:44, 28 January 2025 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 22:08, 4 February 2025 (UTC)
- delete This is, thus far, a completely garden-variety charter-aviation-in-bad-weather accident which attracted what attention it did because of the victims. The NTSB report is extremely preliminary and says nothing beyond the details of flight and the state of the wreckage, and as a class 3 investigation there is the possibility of larger safety conclusions but all in all not a major incident. All the references are from the accident time frame, suggesting a lack of continued interest. Regardless of who nominated this I can see why it would be singled out for deletion. Mangoe (talk) 00:11, 5 February 2025 (UTC)
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