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		The Barnstar of Diligence
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[[1]]

Sorry, a little late.

With "Zebra 1" the scrolling is OK, i.e. I can scroll down to the bottom.

Steue (talk) 06:02, 30 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Steue thanks for the update, this should have been rolled out for the fix without having to use the Zebra feature parameter now as well. — xaosflux ^Talk 11:37, 30 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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News and updates for administrators from the past month (December 2023).

Administrator changes

Clovermoss

Dennis Brown

• Julia W
• Marasmusine
• PBS

CheckUser changes

• Aoidh
• HJ Mitchell
• Sdrqaz
• Spicy
• ToBeFree
• Vanamonde93
• Z1720

Maxim

• Enterprisey
• Izno
• SilkTork

Oversighter changes

• Aoidh
• Firefly
• Sdrqaz
• ToBeFree
• Z1720

Maxim

• Enterprisey
• Izno
• SilkTork

Arbitration

• Following the 2023 Arbitration Committee elections, the following editors have been appointed to the Arbitration Committee: Aoidh, Cabayi, Firefly, HJ Mitchell, Maxim, Sdrqaz, ToBeFree, Z1720.
• Following a motion, the Arbitration Committee rescinded the restrictions on the page name move discussions for the two Ireland pages that were enacted in June 2009.
• The arbitration case Industrial agriculture has been closed.

Miscellaneous

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   Send New Year cheer by adding {{subst:Happy New Year fireworks}} to user talk pages.

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   Send New Year cheer by adding {{subst:Happy New Year fireworks}} to user talk pages.

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MediaWiki message delivery 01:18, 9 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Citing you (from here) that "There is no technical mechanism to "transfer" access from one account to another. Users with the ability to manage permissions may technically add and remove permissions groups from accounts individually. ..." That's what transfer means to my mind when submitting the question and the possibility of it was what I meant to ask. Thanks for ensuring that this is possible.
Moreover, I asked about that on Village pump (policy) because I guessed it's part of Wikipedia policy regarding the transfer possibility. It's not like I was asking if there's a magical button to enable instant transfer that could make me asking about this (possibility of right transfer) on Village pump (Technical) or Village pump (Idea lab). Natsuikomin (talk) 22:12, 11 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hey, yeah sorry my talk page is large. I've been waiting on the mediawiki team working on enhancing talk page experience to roll out automated page management which preserved linking to the topic headers. Possibly that is supported now? Seeing now that my talk page can't be saved, I wouldn't mind the help. I still think this should be solved by the Mediawiki configuration and not by ad-hoc user scripts and bots as this is a core function of communication and linking should be preserved. See my previous note User talk:Wolfgang8741#Archiving though I'm not opposed to getting some help. I don't have time at the moment to move some of the automated newsletter posts like "Wikidata weekly summary #430" and " This Month in GLAM: September 2020" to their own subpages and probably the largest offenders for space. I don't link to those posts typically, but do reference them and do link to other conversation on and off wiki. I just don't remember where those newsletters are configured to fix where they post and would love if they linked back to manage that so users can find it easier. Sorry for not managing this, I was hoping it would be fixed by the system updating to something that didn't break links and broadly implement pagination. Wolfgang8741 says: If not you, then who? (talk) 19:52, 12 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Wolfgang8741 it happens, and it isn't a huge deal. I agree that scripts and bots can be problematic in this matter! I can give your page a try to just get it easily usable in the short-term with a one-time archive (and if you don't like it just revert we are a wiki after all! Technically the mass-message newsletters reveal their list, but it is in the form of a hidden comment on the page source (e.g. that one is here). Hope you don't think I'm singling you out here, someone linked your page in an example of very large pages in another discussion and I thought you could use some help. Things are certainly easier if editors can just worry about making the encyclopedia better and not this technical stuff! — xaosflux ^Talk 20:06, 12 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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I didn't get an email, however if this is in reference to ticket:2024012510010752 - it is open and being discussed still. — xaosflux ^Talk 16:59, 30 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

News and updates for administrators from the past month (January 2024).

Administrator changes

• Red-tailed hawk
• Robertsky

• Ameliorate!
• Ancheta Wis
• Anthony Bradbury (deceased)
• Cobi
• Ev
• Moondyne
• Worm That Turned

Bureaucrat changes

Worm That Turned

CheckUser changes

Wugapodes

Interface administrator changes

• Enterprisey
• Izno

Guideline and policy news

• An RfC about increasing the inactivity requirement for Interface administrators is open for feedback.

Technical news

• Pages that use the JSON contentmodel will now use tabs instead of spaces for auto-indentation. This will significantly reduce the page size. (T326065)

Arbitration

• Following a motion, the Arbitration Committee adopted a new enforcement restriction on January 4, 2024, wherein the Committee may apply the 'Reliable source consensus-required restriction' to specified topic areas.
• Community feedback is requested for a draft to replace the "Information for administrators processing requests" section at WP:AE.

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Dear Xaosflux, Hi and can you add my alternative account's name on SWMT Whitelist on per my request.😊~~ αvírαm|(tαlk) 14:25, 5 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

That seems fine, but I don't normally deal with that - can you link me to the whitelist page you are referencing? — xaosflux ^Talk 14:30, 5 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Dear Xaosflux, thanks for reply, I've sending you an screenshort of SWMT whitelist My this account is added by mahler on my request before 1 year. 😊~~ αvírαm|(tαlk) 14:40, 5 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, I don't understand exactly what you are asking. Is there a page you want me to edit? If so, please provide a link. — xaosflux ^Talk 14:47, 5 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Dear Xaosflux,I'm talking about the whitelist that m:Small Wiki Monitoring Team looks like, which can only be put on the list by stewards, Bureucrats or administrators, you see at the top a picture of a Small Wiki Monitoring Team I see, I understand by giving you an example-On whitelist added by loftyabyss: No reason reason. 😊~~ αvírαm|(tαlk) 14:58, 5 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Aviram7 if you don't give me a link to list you want me to edit, I can't do anything for you. If you don't know this, please follow up at meta:Talk:Small Wiki Monitoring Team. — xaosflux ^Talk 15:11, 5 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Ok, I'm ready to following you as you on meta:Talk:Small Wiki Monitoring Team. 😊~~ αvírαm|(tαlk) 15:20, 5 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, User:GoutComplex has been reported at AN/I here and a month ago here, but neither the user or any admin have responded. I think that the user's continuing use of poor sources is a problem and that they should be encouraged to respond to the advice on User talk:GoutComplex. I have added some diffs to the latest report. Do you agree or am I expecting too much from them? I posted here because you were on the list of recently active admins. TSventon (talk) 15:01, 5 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@TSventon I'm not familiar with this issue and don't have time to work on it now. Other patrolling admins at ANI will check on it for you. — xaosflux ^Talk 15:12, 5 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you, I fear that patrolling admins at AN/I have already indicated by their silence that they do not see a major problem. On the other hand, GoutComplex joined the AN/I discussion shortly after I mentioned them on your talk page. TSventon (talk) 15:59, 5 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

MediaWiki message delivery 19:21, 5 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hey Xaos! Can you help me with something UI related?

In our Albanian village pump we have these "windows", called "Dritare", which you can check for yourself here, just below the main header. The idea is to have our VP act as a central hub where admins/experienced users can quickly check the main pages of our community through the so-called "windows" and interact with them to solve any issues without having to leave the page. This is achieved through section transclusion and it works rather fine on its own. Been using it for quite some months now. I was recently thinking to enhance it by introducing a new feature: "Non-empty" windows will have red backgrounds to indicate their backlog status and hopefully draw the attention of interested volunteers. Is there a way you think this can be achieved using only CSS? The problem lies on the "non-empty" part because they're never empty per se, having HTML tags and Mediawiki templates in them. I mean "non-empty" as in "not having any sections/issues open". I'm not sure how to handle targeting in this case or if it is even possible. Maybe that's not achievable using only CSS? - Klein Muçi (talk) 11:55, 8 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Klein Muçi sorry, can't think of a pure CSS route for that. Also, it looks like you are really transcluding those entire page contents? (e.g. w:sq:Wikipedia:Administrata/Votimet/Kandidatura për administratorë/Kandidatura nga të tjerë not just a section of the page) - so page transclusion may be smoother then section tranclusion (which is known to be buggy). As you have these collapsed, I'm assuming you actually want to color the collapsed titles in w:sq:Wikipedia:Kuvendi/Hyrja? (Because otherwise the user still would have to bother expanding it to see the 'red' - and at that point they would already be seeing the 'empty'. So that means you'd be stuck with some javascript - to check for the presence of some sub.sub element, then have it change the class of the area to recolor. Short answer: CSS can't do complex conditionals. Potential workaround could be procedural, "when clearing this page, uncomment the {{empty}} line" - which could emmit something. — xaosflux ^Talk 13:27, 8 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The reason I went with sections instead of pages is because in that page you linked (admin-related one) the sections are supposed to always be there and that wouldn't show the usual "empty appearance" in the window while also showing the section titles forever in the VP's TOC. And yes, I want the background of the collapsed titles to be red. That's what I thought. Is there a way to have page-related JS instead of utilizing the common.js page? Similar to using page/styles.css for CSS styling? - Klein Muçi (talk) 13:51, 8 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Not yet. But if the target for who needs to see that color change is very low, you could use an opt-in gadget. — xaosflux ^Talk 14:14, 8 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Ah, interesting idea. Hadn't thought of that approach. Well, I guess that answers all my questions. Just one more thing out of personal curiosity: You say "not yet". Am I to understand there are on-going Phab requests about this? Or was it just in the general sense? - Klein Muçi (talk) 14:19, 8 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

phab:T241524 is the closest. If you don't mind a button click, you could make a dashboard that you click a load button on the top of, and it can call a gadget with the load (sort of how this page works: WP:MYIP). — xaosflux ^Talk 14:30, 8 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hmm... This goes a bit heavily on the gadget element. I was hoping for a more direct approach towards scripts in general. While one might argue that there isn't any difference between the two words, I believe in practice there is. For example, some time ago I was forced to use JS to solve an issue on our main page (removing some pipes and parentheses, we've talked about it together too). It would seem a bit weird to call this script "a gadget" and have it stand aside on the Mediawiki NS. It's just a script used to modify a single accompanying page. Anyway, this is just tangentially related to the topic's discussion.
Thank you for your suggestion! Unfortunately, knowing my community, any form of interaction diminishes the chance for help volunteering. The red background thing was thought precisely after the windows themselves still weren't enough to solve some issues which have been left open for years now. Nonetheless thank you for your help! — Klein Muçi (talk) 19:52, 8 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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I have made a phylogeny tree for Jaklapallisaurus but I'm facing a couple problems:

1) I've tried SO HARD lol to get the basal most genus to be bagualosaurus but it doesn't show up :/

2) "Massopoda" should be sister to unaysauridae + plateosauridae BUT it doesn't wanna budge :/ it's right now sister to unaysauridae only DNB XD (talk) 14:31, 23 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@DNB XD I'm not very familiar with that template, however you need to avoid duplicating template variable values inside each template call (the x=y part). For example, you have {{clade}} being used, but have multiple "1=x" on the same entry. — xaosflux ^Talk 14:42, 23 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Oh, thank you! DNB XD (talk) 02:53, 24 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Only one hour until the voting portion of the Steward elections end! I wanted to give you an early congratulations for the 100% keep ratio. You did a great job last year and I hope you continue with the amazing work! -- Grapefanatic (Talk) 13:14, 27 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

News and updates for administrators from the past month (February 2024).

Administrator changes Sdkb The Night Watch East718 Isabelle Belato Mzajac Staecker Stan Shebs Sugarfish Tamzin

Bureaucrat changes SilkTork

Guideline and policy news

• Phase I of the 2024 RfA review is now open for participation. Editors are invited to review, comment on, and propose improvements to the requests for adminship process.
• Following an RfC, the inactivity requirement for the removal of the interface administrator right increased from 6 months to 12 months.

Technical news

• The mobile site history pages now use the same HTML as the desktop history pages. (T353388)

Miscellaneous

• The 2024 appointees for the Ombuds commission are だ＊ぜ, AGK, Ameisenigel, Bennylin, Daniuu, Doǵu, Emufarmers, Faendalimas, MdsShakil, Minorax, Nehaoua, Renvoy and RoySmith as members, with Vermont serving as steward-observer.
• Following the 2024 Steward Elections, the following editors have been appointed as stewards: Ajraddatz, Albertoleoncio, EPIC, JJMC89, Johannnes89, Melos and Yahya.

...for your wonderful work :)

– DreamRimmer (talk) 16:46, 1 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Aaron Liu (talk) 15:28, 8 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Xaosflux :) I'm looking for people to interview here. Feel free to pass if you're not interested. Clovermoss🍀 (talk) 17:15, 9 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

MediaWiki message delivery 23:02, 11 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hey there! This is to let you know that phase I of the 2024 requests for adminship (RfA) review is now no longer accepting new proposals. Lots of proposals remain open for discussion, and the current round of review looks to be on a good track towards making significant progress towards improving RfA's structure and environment. I'd like to give my heartfelt thanks to everyone who has given us their idea for change to make RfA better, and the same to everyone who has given the necessary feedback to improve those ideas. The following proposals remain open for discussion:

• Proposal 2, initiated by HouseBlaster, provides for the addition of a text box at Wikipedia:Requests for adminship reminding all editors of our policies and enforcement mechanisms around decorum.
• Proposals 3 and 3b, initiated by Barkeep49 and Usedtobecool, respectively, provide for trials of discussion-only periods at RfA. The first would add three extra discussion-only days to the beginning, while the second would convert the first two days to discussion-only.
• Proposal 5, initiated by SilkTork, provides for a trial of RfAs without threaded discussion in the voting sections.
• Proposals 6c and 6d, initiated by BilledMammal, provide for allowing users to be selected as provisional admins for a limited time through various concrete selection criteria and smaller-scale vetting.
• Proposal 7, initiated by Lee Vilenski, provides for the "General discussion" section being broken up with section headings.
• Proposal 9b, initiated by Reaper Eternal, provides for the requirement that allegations of policy violation be substantiated with appropriate links to where the alleged misconduct occured.
• Proposals 12c, 21, and 21b, initiated by City of Silver, Ritchie333, and HouseBlaster, respectively, provide for reducing the discretionary zone, which currently extends from 65% to 75%. The first would reduce it 65%–70%, the second would reduce it to 50%–66%, and the third would reduce it to 60%–70%.
• Proposal 13, initiated by Novem Lingaue, provides for periodic, privately balloted admin elections.
• Proposal 14, initiated by Kusma, provides for the creation of some minimum suffrage requirements to cast a vote.
• Proposals 16 and 16c, initiated by Thebiguglyalien and Soni, respectively, provide for community-based admin desysop procedures. 16 would desysop where consensus is established in favor at the administrators' noticeboard; 16c would allow a petition to force reconfirmation.
• Proposal 16e, initiated by BilledMammal, would extend the recall procedures of 16 to bureaucrats.
• Proposal 17, initiated by SchroCat, provides for "on-call" admins and 'crats to monitor RfAs for decorum.
• Proposal 18, initiated by theleekycauldron, provides for lowering the RfB target from 85% to 75%.
• Proposal 24, initiated by SportingFlyer, provides for a more robust alternate version of the optional candidate poll.
• Proposal 25, initiated by Femke, provides for the requirement that nominees be extended-confirmed in addition to their nominators.
• Proposal 27, initiated by WereSpielChequers, provides for the creation of a training course for admin hopefuls, as well as periodic retraining to keep admins from drifting out of sync with community norms.
• Proposal 28, initiated by HouseBlaster, tightens restrictions on multi-part questions.

To read proposals that were closed as unsuccessful, please see Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/2024 review/Phase I/Closed proposals. You are cordially invited once again to participate in the open discussions; when phase I ends, phase II will review the outcomes of trial proposals and refine the implementation details of other proposals. Another notification will be sent out when this phase begins, likely with the first successful close of a major proposal. Happy editing! theleekycauldron (talk • she/her), via:

MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 10:53, 14 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Samral is a sockpuppet pls remove extendedconfirmed rights. @Xaosflux 151.135.11.200 (talk) 13:01, 15 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

We don't need to bother removing groups from blocked users. — xaosflux ^Talk 13:38, 15 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

He annoys me and other users by cursing at you via email. Can you please turn off the email sending feature? 176.218.17.226 (talk) 14:06, 15 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

As you are not a registered user, you wouldn't be getting email from us and we can't do anything about someone sending you email directly. If a registred user is having an issue, they can post at WP:ANI. — xaosflux ^Talk 14:09, 15 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I didn't log in so my username wouldn't show up. Pls turn off email sending. He's a sockpuppet and has no place here anymore. 176.218.17.226 (talk) 14:11, 15 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not working on this, feel free to report to ANI, a checkuser may need to validate the claim. — xaosflux ^Talk 14:13, 15 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

 You are invited to join the discussion at Wikipedia:Village pump (proposals) § AI for WP guidelines/ policies. ExclusiveEditor _{Notify Me!} 09:50, 17 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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MediaWiki message delivery 18:54, 25 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Good day @Xaosflux please I would like to delete these redirect pages, some where created unintentionally. Please User:Thisasia/common.js/common.js, User:Thisasia/sandbox/common.js User:Thisasia/Status2User:Thisasia/sandbox and these sanebox doc pages, User:Thisasia/sandbox/Doc, User:Thisasia/sandbox/doc and then with User:Thisasia/StatusChanger.js Thanks very much.
Thisasia  (Talk) 01:16, 27 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Thisasia looks like someone already did. — xaosflux ^Talk 09:03, 27 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Yes indeed. An admin has done that few hours ago, thanks very and have a good time.
Thisasia  ^(Talk) 09:09, 27 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello @Xaosflux, no one is interested in my request. Could you please take a look? Lionel Cristiano^? 12:41, 30 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Lionel Cristiano someone will get to it, as you can see there are much older requests backlogged on that page right now. — xaosflux ^Talk 17:36, 30 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

News and updates for administrators from the past month (March 2024).

Administrator changes

• Kbdank71
• Kosack
• NrDg
• TLSuda

Guideline and policy news

• An RfC is open to convert all current and future community discretionary sanctions to (community designated) contentious topics procedure.

Technical news

• The Toolforge Grid Engine services have been shut down after the final migration process from Grid Engine to Kubernetes. (T313405)

Arbitration

• An arbitration case has been opened to look into "the intersection of managing conflict of interest editing with the harassment (outing) policy".

Miscellaneous

• Editors are invited to sign up for The Core Contest, an initiative running from April 15 to May 31, which aims to improve vital and other core articles on Wikipedia.

MediaWiki message delivery 03:34, 2 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

About 4 years ago you put protection on this page as a redirect but the notes say it a was removed.. the redirect seems to be active and i was wondering if you could remove the protection? Thanks QuantWiz (talk) 18:26, 4 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@QuantWiz I actually lowered the protection, though consider it still a vandalism target. If you have an edit request for the page, please use the talk page. Feel free to appeal at WP:RFUP. — xaosflux ^Talk 18:29, 4 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the quick reply.. the talk page mentions putting a page for Moomoo the trading app in there which is what i was considering. QuantWiz (talk) 18:32, 4 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@QuantWiz a good way to do that is to write the page at Draft:Moomoo then ask for it to be moved over when it is ready. — xaosflux ^Talk 18:36, 4 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

MediaWiki message delivery 23:35, 8 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Could you make a similar adjustment on all of the other padlock pages? Geardona (talk to me?) 16:08, 10 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Geardona please drop edit requests so your ask doesn't get lost. You don't have to "sandbox" them for just updating that file description - just put what you want in the ER. — xaosflux ^Talk 16:35, 10 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

MediaWiki message delivery 23:27, 15 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello @Xaosflux, may you do me a favor and block me until May 10th? I have a few real-life obligations that Wikipedia is getting in the way of. Thanks! Bremps... 02:21, 16 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

 Done — xaosflux ^Talk 09:15, 16 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

MediaWiki message delivery 20:26, 22 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hey, I can't get any answer @ IRC, I'm working the new request at CHU/S and go a anti-spoof hit, if I had this hit at ACC I'd go ahead and create the account, but here (at rename) it seems different, does this request need to go to CHU/U? - FlightTime (open channel) 19:35, 24 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

looking. — xaosflux ^Talk 19:39, 24 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@FlightTime 8 year old, never contributed - I'm not worried about the conflict. — xaosflux ^Talk 19:42, 24 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Great, that was my take also. - FlightTime (open channel) 19:52, 24 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

JJMC89 says (via IRC) go ahead and rename. - FlightTime (open channel) 19:49, 24 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

so thats +2 :) — xaosflux ^Talk 19:50, 24 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanx, - FlightTime (open channel) 19:52, 24 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for your sarcastic response to my mistake. I did not mean to press save on the main page in Rater. Ktkvtsh (talk) 22:31, 26 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Ktkvtsh I saw you weren't a newbie so hope that didn't come of BITEy or callous - how about we both split this:

Whack! You've been whacked with a wet trout. Don't take this too seriously. Someone just wants to let you know that you did something silly.

? — xaosflux ^Talk 22:47, 26 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Haha sounds good. Just felt the need to explain myself. Glad we can both laugh about it.

have a great evening! Ktkvtsh (talk) 22:49, 26 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Just wanted to say... we were all having a laugh about how our main page is just a weedy little stub on Discord. Perhaps we should work to get it to featured article status. I see it's severely lacking on sources! —k6ka 🍁 (Talk · Contributions) 03:09, 27 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

MediaWiki message delivery 03:31, 30 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

News and updates for administrators from the past month (April 2024).

Administrator changes

Nyttend

• JohnOwens
• Killiondude
• MelanieN
• Nihonjoe

Bureaucrat changes

Nihonjoe

CheckUser changes

Joe Roe

Oversight changes

GeneralNotability

Guideline and policy news

• Phase I of the 2024 requests for adminship review has concluded. Several proposals have passed outright and will proceed to implementation, including creating a discussion-only period (3b) and administrator elections (13) on a trial basis. Other successful proposals, such as creating a reminder of civility norms (2), will undergo further refinement in Phase II. Proposals passed on a trial basis will be discussed in Phase II, after their trials conclude. Further details on specific proposals can be found in the full report.

Technical news

• Partial action blocks are now in effect on the English Wikipedia. This means that administrators have the ability to restrict users from certain actions, including uploading files, moving pages and files, creating new pages, and sending thanks. T280531

Arbitration

• The arbitration case Conflict of interest management has been closed.

Miscellaneous

• This may be a good time to reach out to potential nominees to ask if they would consider an RfA.
• A New Pages Patrol backlog drive is happening in May 2024 to reduce the number of unreviewed articles in the new pages feed. Currently, there is a backlog of over 15,000 articles awaiting review. Sign up here to participate!
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I have a script installed (somewhere) that allows me to click on "rollback all". I just invoked it at Special:contributions/GauMutra, and it didn't work. I tried it again in case I misclicked, and it still didn't work. Given that I'm not sure who wrote the script, I'm not sure to whom I should go for help. It might be User:Gracenotes, but if it is, they haven't edited in over a decade (a shame, it's a pretty username). Can you help? Sorry for my shortcomings in this area.--Bbb23 (talk) 13:39, 4 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Bbb23: you have 2 rollback related userscripts:

1. User:Gracenotes/rollback.js via User:Bbb23/vector.js (should only load when your skin is set to vector) and
2. User:Writ Keeper/Scripts/massRollback.js via User:Bbb23/common.js

The second of those specifically inserts a "rollback all" link, so I'd start with asking Writ Keeper. — xaosflux ^Talk 15:06, 4 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Will do; thanks a lot! --Bbb23 (talk) 16:05, 4 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I tried it again just now just in case, and it worked. I don't suppose you know why it didn't work (I use it fairly frequently, so not working is more of an anomaly than working). Writ Keeper?--Bbb23 (talk) 16:06, 4 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry no, scripts can be tricky - sometimes they race against each other and can cause oddities, especially if you have many scripts from different places. — xaosflux ^Talk 00:42, 6 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Would it be better to remove the Gracenotes script? I don't think it ever runs, it's not supported, and the WK script works anyway.--Bbb23 (talk) 01:01, 6 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

If you're not using vector, it shouldn't run. But I suggest removing any script you are not using. Just put "//" at the front of the line to disable it in case you want to use it again later. — xaosflux ^Talk 01:09, 6 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I am using Vector (Vector Legacy), but I've disabled it anyway. Given that I don't know what it's supposed to do, I can't really know if it ever runs, but if I find I can't rollback the way I wish to, I can always re-enable it. This whole thing makes me tired, but I do appreciate your help.--Bbb23 (talk) 02:05, 6 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi there! Phase I of the Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/2024 review has concluded, with several impactful changes gaining community consensus and proceeding to various stages of implementation. Some proposals will be implemented in full outright; others will be discussed at phase II before being implemented; and still others will proceed on a trial basis before being brought to phase II. The following proposals have gained consensus:

• Proposals 2 and 9b (phase II discussion): Add a reminder of civility norms at RfA and Require links for claims of specific policy violations
• Proposal 3b (in trial): Make the first two days discussion-only
• Proposal 13 (in trial): Admin elections
• Proposal 14 (implemented): Suffrage requirements
• Proposals 16 and 16c (phase II discussion): Allow the community to initiate recall RfAs and Community recall process based on dewiki
• Proposal 17 (phase II discussion): Have named Admins/crats to monitor infractions
• Proposal 24 (phase II discussion): Provide better mentoring for becoming an admin and the RfA process
• Proposal 25 (implemented): Require nominees to be extended confirmed

See the project page for a full list of proposals and their outcomes. A huge thank-you to everyone who has participated so far :) looking forward to seeing lots of hard work become a reality in phase II. theleekycauldron (talk), via MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 08:09, 5 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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MediaWiki message delivery 23:56, 13 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I felt the need to apologize after i removed your babel. 85.99.19.213 (talk) 17:39, 14 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

No worries, I occasionally make technical edits there but want to be clear I don't understand the language. — xaosflux ^Talk 18:04, 14 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello. I messaged you because you are a steward and thus have more knowledge of policies than me, a commoner. I want to leave a message on a user’s talk page regarding the recent RfC on trwiki as I think he can shed some light to some problems trwiki has. Is such a thing allowed? 85.99.19.213 (talk) 14:16, 15 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

As you are asking this here, on the English Wikipedia, I'm assuming you are talking about edits on this project. Sending a neutral advertisement of an RFC is generally fine here, provided you are not otherwise prevented from editing here (such as by logging out to edit while you are blocked on this project). If you are asking about trwiki, I have no idea what their policies are, I'm not part of that community. — xaosflux ^Talk 14:22, 15 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

thank you. 85.99.19.213 (talk) 09:21, 16 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Just block me permanently. I have caused mass destruction in 2021-2022 as 2001:4454:600:0:0:0:0:0/40. Block params: (anon. only, account creation blocked, email disabled, cannot edit own talk page) 143.44.165.165 (talk) 23:37, 18 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done we don't do self-requested IP address blocks. — xaosflux ^Talk 00:27, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

MediaWiki message delivery 23:02, 20 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, remember Wikipedia:Village_pump_(miscellaneous)/Archive_77#Why_is_"#article-section-source-editor"_appearing_in_edit_summaries?? The question has come up again at Wikipedia:Help_desk#What_does_#article-section-source-editor_mean?. DuncanHill (talk) 11:19, 27 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• I replied there, its sloppy software tracking, being improved in phab:T323875 eventually. — xaosflux ^Talk 15:02, 27 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

MediaWiki message delivery 00:13, 28 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you again for your help in getting the Conway's Game of Life gadget going. I'd also like to add the mw:Template:Langton's ant gadget to the Langton's ant article. Do I need a separate edit request for that, or can I just ask you directly? (cc: Pppery.) 28bytes (talk) 16:04, 31 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

This looks like another basic one. The general workflow for adding a new gadget it to propose it (it can be on the article talk in this case) - then to advertise it at WP:VPT. If the discussion is open for a reasonable period of time with no objection (perhaps a week) activate the edit request and a patrolling intadmin will likely come take care of it. If we run across something that will be complicated (like that xray viewer at VPT right now) or something that will have a large deployment scope (a certain chess game player comes to mind) - it will require more discussion. — xaosflux ^Talk 16:51, 31 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Sounds good, thanks. 28bytes (talk) 17:17, 31 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Can we get another update of the CT scan viewer? A number of the requested improvements were made. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 15:31, 1 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The JS was done, the CSS was not done. See MediaWiki talk:Gadget-ImageStackPopup.css. The best way to request sync updates for these is to file an edit request on the associated talk page. — xaosflux ^Talk 15:42, 1 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hey Xaosflux What are next steps to expand use… we have solved the requests. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 19:28, 7 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Doc James hmm, that's a great question. While this could be used for anything, I'm assuming your primary concern is on medical articles; and it would probably be a good idea to get some more eyes on the demo from people like you that are familiar with reading those pages. Perhaps bring it up at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Medicine, maybe make a small demo page in project space and point people to it with the parameter that will load the gadget when they follow the link? I don't see anything dangerous in this script, so not worried there - but could it hang up certain browsers, or break page layouts somehow - not sure. — xaosflux ^Talk 20:49, 7 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

MediaWiki message delivery 22:33, 3 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Xaos! Hope you're doing okay. It's been a while without talking. Can you help me diagnose a CSS problem I'm having with the "new" Vector theme on my homewiki? As you can see from the image, the right sidebar goes underneath the main content on small screens. The same thing doesn't happen with the left sidebar. This is related to our grid (obviously) because when removing the CSS properties for it is starts behaving normally. Any idea what element do I need to target on the skin to handle this? - Klein Muçi (talk) 10:39, 4 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Klein Muçi Are you using a fixed-width (or min-width) element in your localization? If so, take that off, it needs to be able to dynamically adjust. — xaosflux ^Talk 13:48, 4 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

We do have fixed widths but that's not the problem because normally it would just change the layout configuration when it is exceeded. The issue is the way the sidebar is designed to behave, that is, to go underneath the other elements instead of pushing them so the layout changes. The left sidebar does that, the right doesn't. — Klein Muçi (talk) 17:21, 4 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Suggest you ask over at mw:Talk:Reading/Web/Desktop Improvements. — xaosflux ^Talk 18:04, 4 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you! Just did. — Klein Muçi (talk) 08:14, 5 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

News and updates for administrators from the past month (May 2024).

Administrator changes

Graham Beards

• Deskana
• Mets501
• Staxringold

Bureaucrat changes

• Deskana
• Warofdreams

Oversight changes

Dreamy Jazz

Guideline and policy news

• Phase II of the 2024 RfA review has commenced to improve and refine the proposals passed in Phase I.

Technical news

• The Nuke feature, which enables administrators to mass delete pages, will now correctly delete pages which were moved to another title. T43351

Arbitration

• The arbitration case Venezuelan politics has been closed.
• The Committee is seeking volunteers for various roles, including access to the conflict of interest VRT queue.

Miscellaneous

• WikiProject Reliability's unsourced statements drive is happening in June 2024 to replace {{citation needed}} tags with references! Sign up here to participate!

MediaWiki message delivery 20:18, 10 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

MediaWiki message delivery 23:47, 17 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• tóraí (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

Hi. Y in the world isn't this user listed in Wikipedia:List of administrators/Inactive?102.159.63.204 (talk) 14:18, 18 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi 102*, that page is maintained by a bot and is not used for any 'official' processing. You may contact the bot operator here: User talk:Rick Block; it could be missing the account due to the non-English username.

As far as Wikipedia:Administrators#Procedural_removal_for_inactive_administrators processing goes:

• Criteria 1: (SATISIFIED) - there has been an edit in the last 12 months
• Criteria 2: (SATISIFIED) - there have been over 100 edits in the last 60 months. Additionally they were warned of low editing averages as recently as Feb this year.

— xaosflux ^Talk 14:41, 18 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

rick Block, can you make changes to your bot to insert usernames with diacritics?102.156.65.169 (talk) 11:52, 19 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I'll look into this. -- Rick Block (talk) 23:42, 20 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

By the way, can you downgrade edit-protection for user:edit filter from template to semi? My reason is because the target page is semi-edit-protected, but also admin-move-protected.102.159.8.166 (talk) 12:33, 21 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

You can request changes at WP:RFPP, also please do not use my talk page to follow up with other users. — xaosflux ^Talk 13:16, 21 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, would it be possible for you to grant bot access to SodiumBot on test.wikipedia.org? I'd like to use it to test some issues surround pywikibot and it's interactions with the bot flag. Sohom (talk) 01:45, 23 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

 Done — xaosflux ^Talk 02:18, 23 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

MediaWiki message delivery 22:30, 24 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

You salted Wikipetan way back in 2007 because it was on the protected titles list. It is now mentioned at Moe anthropomorphism § Computers and a redirect was requested at AFCRD. Could you please unsalt it? Cheers, Queen of Hearts ^talk 01:01, 1 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

 Done — xaosflux ^Talk 09:26, 1 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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News and updates for administrators from the past month (June 2024).

Administrator changes

• Elli
• HouseBlaster
• Pickersgill-Cunliffe

• Brianga
• De728631
• Georgewilliamherbert
• Hyacinth (deceased)
• ProveIt
• The Night Watch

Technical news

• Local administrators can now add new links to the bottom of the site Tools menu without using JavaScript. Documentation is available on MediaWiki. (T6086)

Miscellaneous

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i Xaosflux. I recently found myself blocked from editing because of an issue with my IP range (135.226.0.0/16), and it said that you were the blocking admin. I am at a loss at what my options are. I hope you can help me with this problem. I make my edits to Wikipedia from my office at work (I am a disclosed paid editor), and it is my company's policy to use a proxy, and there is no option to disable the proxy when editing Wikipedia. Perhaps you can change the block from a total block to "anonymous only" which would allow me to continue editing in good faith as I have been for the past two years. Alternatively, could you possibly grant an exemption to the block of my IP? I appreciate your attention to this matter. Thank you. Cduffymul (talk) 12:27, 8 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Your first step should be to contact your network administrator. From your message above it sounds like services (i.e. making contributions to Wikipedia) that your company wants to provide is not working because of configuration that they control. Your network administrator should be able to configure a "split tunnel" for Wikipedia sites. This is a common fix for businesses that need to connect their business networks to restricted external networks. You may also apply for an account exemption from the local checkuser team by following the directions on this page: WP:IPBE. — xaosflux ^Talk 13:04, 8 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Hey, can you restore my +sysop again? I'd like to test phab:T20110#9968717 and a few other things. Thanks! Suffusion of Yellow (talk) 00:09, 12 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

OK, be sure not not leave something like CAPTCHA on for everyone there! — xaosflux ^Talk 00:17, 12 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Yep. Right now you need to actually say "captcha" in the summary, which I hope shouldn't be too common... Suffusion of Yellow (talk) 00:24, 12 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Hi Xaosflux. I just came to the main Wikipedia page and upon seeing you in it's recent edit history I thought to leave a message for you and luckily got the chance to say something to any known user after really long. I remember you always had been there to answer me whenever I had left some message for you basically my help requests for knowing something from you to get solution in my problems related to Wikipedia editing and blocks and as becoz I always try my best to never forget the names who ever helped me and their kind helpful responses I am expressing my thanks here and say that you are a nice person. May you stay happy always.Bye.😊❤️ 157.34.6.72 (talk) 19:29, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, enjoy the site! — xaosflux ^Talk 20:43, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Hi, I noticed you usually answer questions at Wikipedia talk:Growth Team features/Mentor list my mentor list is all of the sudden empty?, thanks --Ozzie10aaaa (talk) 15:58, 9 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Ozzie10aaaa on Special:MentorDashboard it will only list mentees that have been "recently active" - do you have reason to think that you have a mentee that is recently active, but not showing? Can you provide an example? — xaosflux ^Talk 15:57, 10 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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these are just a few that have left questions (there are more) on my talk page that are 'fairly recently active'...additionally there are always brand new editors that are listed (which are currently not) that I place {{Mentor welcome}} on their page?, thank you--Ozzie10aaaa (talk) 16:17, 10 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Ozzie10aaaa in the mentor dashboard, at the top left, there is a pull down "filter", check that and try increasing the inactivity counter. — xaosflux ^Talk 19:14, 10 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

[177] yes I had tried that...still blank--Ozzie10aaaa (talk) 21:56, 10 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I triggered a refresh, please check again in 3 hours. Make sure in your filters you don't have "only starred" set. — xaosflux ^Talk 22:44, 10 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

still blank,Ozzie--Ozzie10aaaa (talk) 13:25, 11 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• update-its back working [178], thank you 😊 Ozzie--Ozzie10aaaa (talk) 15:16, 12 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  Thanks for the update, seems there was a stuck update process on the server side. Best regards, — xaosflux ^Talk 15:18, 12 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Xaosflux. I'm a bureaucrat at mk.wiki. I had the same issue described on this discussion about the AWB given the 2 factor authentication I recently enabled. I have been using the tool for years for that wiki. I've done exactly as described at Wikipedia:Using AWB with 2FA, including ticking all the boxes (step no. 4 on the page). The tool still won't let me in, saying the user doesn't have enough privileges to make automatic edits. Should I do something on mk.wiki? I have no clue what to do next, but this tool is essential for our wiki. Help would be very much appreciated. --B. Jankuloski (talk) 11:42, 11 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Bjankuloski06 first, make sure you are running the current release of AWB. Second, are you not able to log on at all, or are you just having a problem using the "bot" page of AWB? — xaosflux ^Talk 11:44, 11 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The current release is 6.3.1.1. — xaosflux ^Talk 11:45, 11 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Also, on your AWB logon (or more likely on your saved profiles) be sure to change the username, e.g. instead of it says "Fluxbot" on mine, it says "Fluxbot@FluxbotAWB" (my botpasswords names). And the password is the botpassword. — xaosflux ^Talk 11:47, 11 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you very much! I was able to log in with the newest version. Perhaps this version has been created, among other things, to accommodate this need for admin authentication. I guess the need to have the latest version should be mentioned on the instructions page. B. Jankuloski (talk) 11:54, 11 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Good to hear! This doesn't seem to be a problem with BotPasswords or 2FA themselves, but with AWB. It seems to be somewhat recent and others have reported similar problems. Hopefully the AWB devs can improve error handling there. Best regards, — xaosflux ^Talk 11:58, 11 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Is it possible to pblock someone from WP:SPI? In other words, I want to prevent the user from filing or editing any SPIs, like Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/ with a wildcard (like an asterisk), or maybe just blocking them from that page would do it. I don't see anything like that at WP:PBLOCK, but that doesn't necessarily mean it isn't possible. Thanks.--Bbb23 (talk) 00:00, 22 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Bbb23 not currently, though that is an open feature request (T242670). The abusefilter could do this, but it's too expensive to make single user rules. As an softer alternative to a site-wide editing block, you could use a namespace block against the entire "Wikipedia:" namespace to curtail the disruptive behavior of an editor. — xaosflux ^Talk 00:09, 22 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I thought about the Wikipedia namespace block, but although the editor has problems with other administrative boards as well as SPI, I don't think it's sufficiently widespread to justify the wider block. Thanks for your quick response.--Bbb23 (talk) 00:38, 22 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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I revert vandalism fairly often. Usually undo is enough, but it would be nice to have rollback for those multiple-revision reverts. MP1999 ❯❯❯ Talk 16:13, 5 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@MP1999 you may request at WP:PERM/R. — xaosflux ^Talk 16:58, 5 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Xaosflux But i get declined there everytime.Everyone should get a chance at least once. MP1999 ❯❯❯ Talk 17:06, 5 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

That's the process. If you want to challenge it you can raise a thread at WP:AN. — xaosflux ^Talk 17:45, 5 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

More IP-edits, I requested protection. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 15:59, 9 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Cleaned up, one gblock, +prot. — xaosflux ^Talk 16:21, 9 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks! One more edit summary there you should perhaps deal with. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 16:26, 9 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Done. — xaosflux ^Talk 16:31, 9 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Can you update the version here MediaWiki:Gadget-calculator.js

With the version here mdwiki:MediaWiki:Gadget-calculator.js

Thanks Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 23:08, 25 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

 Done — xaosflux ^Talk 23:18, 25 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I actually just made some additional changes on mdwiki, so it needs to be resynced again, but i think after the most recent change i made the gadget will probably be stable until we get new feedback. Bawolff (talk) 06:58, 26 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

 Done — xaosflux ^Talk 09:28, 26 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

We have one in mainspace as a trial at Body roundness index. What are the next steps for getting this turned on by default? Like previously gadget should only load on pages in this category. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 18:15, 26 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Suggest you un-archive Wikipedia:Village_pump_(technical)/Archive_215#New_gadget_for_doing_user_entered_calculations and place the request there -- assuming nobody objects should be OK. — xaosflux ^Talk 18:24, 26 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks started the discussion at Wikipedia:Village_pump_(technical)#Turning_on_the_Calculator_gadget_as_default Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 18:33, 26 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Hello, Xaos!

I am trying to generate a list of articles that have less than 1000 bytes of information for the Albanian Wikipedia. Any idea what would be the best approach to handle this? Special:ShortPages doesn't help much in that direction. - Klein Muçi (talk) 07:57, 30 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Klein Muçi if you want it to be all inclusive, using a dump or using a replica would probably be the answer here. It looks like ptwiki does this on the tool server Artigos curtos (maintainer is Danilo.mac). Perhaps they could extend their tool to more projects? This seem possible from a Quarry report as well. An old example Quarry report is linked from phab:T218350. — xaosflux ^Talk 09:29, 30 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I forked this: https://quarry.wmcloud.org/query/86676

Not sure if I've done it right but I'm currently running it. - Klein Muçi (talk) 10:03, 30 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I think it worked. Thank you! :D - Klein Muçi (talk) 10:04, 30 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Welcome! — xaosflux ^Talk 10:10, 30 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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thank you for deal with my account problem!!! i could create my wikipedia account because you solved this problem. thank you ;)

I'm sorry about my english is not good. のすけさん (talk) 09:18, 3 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

You're welcome. — xaosflux ^Talk 19:37, 3 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, could you please complete this request? Thanks! – DreamRimmer (talk) 18:40, 4 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi. I'm posting here what I posted on FormalDude's page. Please forgive me for not being super Wiki-literate yet. I was just looking for some help and noticed that FormalDude isn't an admin so I found your page, xaosflux:

Hi FormalDude. Could you take a look at the NYU Law Review's page? This user "Randykitty" for some reason feels the need to erroneously remove our logo from our page. You reversed him once already last year but he just removed the logo again (for the same reason you'd reversed him) claiming the logo isn't being used by the Law Review. Here is evidence of the Law Review using the logo that's on the Wiki page (that Randykitty will for some reason try to remove again): https://www.instagram.com/nyulawreview/ https://www.linkedin.com/company/nyulr/ https://twitter.com/nyulawreview Nyulrlogo (talk) 22:05, 4 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Hi @Xaosflux, hope you're doing alright. I have some important tasks coming up and I would sincerely appreciate you blocking me until October 17. Thank you, Bremps... 05:00, 7 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

 Done — xaosflux ^Talk 09:49, 7 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Regarding this [213]? Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 16:56, 8 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Doc James this has been promoted to production, appears to be working on articles now. — xaosflux ^Talk 20:09, 9 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Wonderful thanks as always. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 20:40, 9 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

We made some improvements based on feedback to the calculator gadget. Would you be able to resync https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Gadget-calculator.js with https://mdwiki.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Gadget-calculator.js? Thanks. Bawolff (talk) 17:21, 9 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

 Done please just open edit requests on the associated talk page so these don't get overlooked in the future. — xaosflux ^Talk 19:58, 9 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Not sure if you missed this edit? isaacl (talk) 17:26, 9 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, removed. — xaosflux ^Talk 17:49, 9 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Hello, kindly import mw:Reading/Web/Accessibility for reading/Reporting/en.wikipedia.org to Wikipedia:Dark mode/Reporting per my rationale at Wikipedia:Village pump (proposals)#Implementation. Please use the options "Copy all the revisions for this page" and "Assign edits to local users where the named user exists locally" on the import page. I think there is sufficient consensus. —Matrix(!) _{ping one}^{when replying} {user - talk? - _uselesscontributions} 09:08, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Someone, that is not you, should close that discussion. No problems doing a transwiki import at that time, though we generally do not do the 'assign edit to local...' setting on purpose (it can confuse people as to why these edits aren't in contributions here, etc.). — xaosflux ^Talk 10:07, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Fair enough. I thought the discussion can be closed by the person who started it if there isn't much opposition, but it's fine I can wait. —Matrix(!) _{ping one}^{when replying} {user - talk? - _uselesscontributions} 14:31, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

About your point that we shouldn't do it, we have to or else the automatic archiving will get confused, since there are no signatures. We can add a clarification header at the top. —Matrix(!) _{ping one}^{when replying} {user - talk? - _uselesscontributions} 14:33, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

That doesn't make sense, bot archiving works on page text not old revisions authors. Also, if a bot isn't working right, that's a problem for the bot operator - and would have no impact to future edits. — xaosflux ^Talk 14:45, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

User:ClueBot III/Documentation says in User:ClueBot III/Documentation#How does ClueBot III know when to archive my page? "ClueBot III works based on the revision history of the page in question". —Matrix(!) _{ping one}^{when replying} {user - talk? - _uselesscontributions} 15:50, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Ok, so no part of that has any reference to the username styling. CBIII can even archive things from IP users, they just look like they do here. — xaosflux ^Talk 16:01, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Ok so maybe the "Assign edits to local users where the named user exists locally" is unnecessary. But the other option still needs to be used for the archiving to work. —Matrix(!) _{ping one}^{when replying} {user - talk? - _uselesscontributions} 11:33, 13 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

OK. I replied at Wikipedia:Village_pump_(proposals)#Implementation. — xaosflux ^Talk 11:43, 13 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Xaosflux! In 2021, you made a series of edits like this one to fix an issue with the Category:Wikipedia Arbitration Committee Elections 2021 candidate statements category not appearing on candidate statement pages. The issue has continued throughout the years; do you have any ideas about how {{Arbitration Committee Elections statement}} could be modified to prevent this? I'm not super familiar with noinclude and includeonly. DanCherek (talk) 23:21, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@DanCherek I made a few tweaks, now using {{subst:Arbitration Committee Elections statement|Xaosflux|Your statement~~~~}} produces this on the page: Special:PermaLink/1250863321. Is that what you are wanting? — xaosflux ^Talk 00:18, 13 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, that looks great. Thank you!!! DanCherek (talk) 00:22, 13 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Hello. I hope you are doing well. Have you used twinkle's batch delete module on somewhere other than enwiki? The Wikipedia:Twinkle/doc#Modules for administrators is not much helpful. I am not sure if global twinkle supports that either. —usernamekiran (talk) 13:17, 8 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Usernamekiran no, I only use TW on enwiki. — xaosflux ^Talk 14:05, 8 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

thanks. any suggestions/ideas/workaround on how to mass/batch delete pages on somewhere other than enwiki? —usernamekiran (talk) 14:13, 8 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

AWB? —usernamekiran (talk) 14:16, 8 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It depends on how big of a job it is, and how they were made. If someone is making lots of bad pages, Special:Nuke can be used. — xaosflux ^Talk 14:23, 8 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

special:nuke is giving me two options, "Username, IP address or blank", and "SQL LIKE pattern (e.g. %) for the page name:". But I want to delete all the pages from the category "empty mainspace pages". for example, the corresponding page for 1940 in film in Marathi — mr:इ.स. १९४० मधील चित्रपट has been empty since 2009. Currently there are ~2,700 pages in that category. Even if we use nuke, it might delete some salvageable articles. AWB seems to be a safer choice, but the "delete" button stays greyed out for me. I tried a few things, cant seem to enable the option. I think I will have to do it manually over the course of couple of months. —usernamekiran (talk) 16:45, 8 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

OK, Nuke is not suitable for that purpose. I'm a bit lost on your source, where is the list of all the pages you want to delete? — xaosflux ^Talk 16:52, 8 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

oh, I didn't think of mentioning the source, it is mr:वर्ग:रिकामी पाने. It is not a maintenance/hidden category, just a plain old regular category. The title literally means "empty pages", but some articles have infoboxes in them, and some other can be expanded/or are of interest of mrwiki. —usernamekiran (talk) 22:23, 8 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

You could try getting twinkle going, pywikibot has a module for this as well. For medium-speed batch deletions I've used meta:MediaWiki:Gadget-autodel.js before. — xaosflux ^Talk 23:47, 8 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Also regarding AWB "delete" - it isn't a batch tool, you'd have to click on it and give a reason each time. If you don't see it and you aren't using webauth, ensure your grant has delete enabled. — xaosflux ^Talk 00:20, 9 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I tried to enable WP:Visual editor but it's not working. It said to try it out in my sandbox, but when I went to the sandbox, I got this message. Please explain. Atsme 💬 📧 13:20, 10 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

To try the current version of VE, it's best to try it with the current skin as well. In Special:Preferences pick "Vector (2022)" in the Appearance menu; in the Editing menu enable "Enable the visual editor"; make sure you do not have "Use the wikitext mode inside the visual editor, instead of a different wikitext editor" enabled.

To try it one time only on your sandbox, try using this link. — xaosflux ^Talk 14:51, 10 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It worked! Thank you! Atsme 💬 📧 15:08, 10 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Hello, Xaos!

When making requests for adminship or for choosing an article as a featured/good article or for flagging a new bot (the list goes on), one has to create a request and then transclude that request on a specific page. In SqWiki this step, being a bit unintuitive, is always forgotten by users which expect to be done with the request once they create the page with all the info for it and then wonder why it is not showing up anywhere. Is there a bot that you use to handle such cases in EnWiki? Maybe I could ask its operator to lend a hand even on our community. - Klein Muçi (talk) 09:01, 12 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

No we don't. It's sort of a feature, if someone can't follow a simple direction like "transclude your request" - they likely shouldn't be running a bot here or be an admin here. For lightweight requests, perhaps you should have requesters make a new section rather than a new page. If you did want to do it, you could build something to look for, such as have the new page creation workflow inlcude Category:OPEN requests for XXXYYYZZZ, then your bot could patrol the listing page for pages missing (and make the request closing process remove that category). We thought about doing that one time, but found that often people would make their requests, but not be finished making them - or just not be ready to fully commit to their request yet. — xaosflux ^Talk 10:33, 12 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I see. As always, thank you for your insight! :-) - Klein Muçi (talk) 12:50, 12 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Hi, can you check the edit filter mailing list? You were active recently, so I'm hoping you can just check it out, it's not a filter request it's a semi-urgent (well, depends) concern.
It's currently waiting for moderator approval, mentions DatGuy in the contents. – 2804:F1...6D:D079 (::/32) (talk) 18:38, 28 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not a listmod. — xaosflux ^Talk 19:56, 28 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Ah, oh well, it was responded to at some point, thanks anyways. – 2804:F1...6D:D079 (::/32) (talk) 21:09, 28 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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I wanted to follow up on the global block that you added recently for the range 165.225.192.0/18. I do see that my account has now been exempted from this (Thanks!), but I'm concerned that we're still blocking all contributions from 16,000 IPs used by several million corporate users. These users likely have little choice about routing their traffic via ZScaler, and I'm unclear on how blocking this range differs functionally from blocking an entire IP pool used by an ISP such as Comcast. What's the best way we can discuss implementing an effective solution for whatever behavior this was intended to address? Many thanks. Rupert Clayton (talk) 19:35, 11 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It looks like previous blocks on ZScaler ranges have been "anononly" soft blocks that do not apply to logged in users. If there is any need for a block, it would seem that a soft block is sufficient. Requiring each affected editor to separately submit UTRS tickets to request individual unblocking seems perverse and a waste of admins' time. Rupert Clayton (talk) 19:48, 11 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

This project may choose to change that block setting. That proxy service is allowing its clients to abuse our services. If you are using someone else's network, and they want their network to be used for this purpose the network administrator may also whitelist our domains (at least some have done so previously). — xaosflux ^Talk 20:44, 11 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for replying. It's not clear to me what the abusive behavior is, and how you feel ZScaler should address it. Without a little more info, I can't tell whether you're applying the only reasonable protection available, or using a very blunt tool to address a limited issue. Is there an existing discussion you can direct me to?

I suspect that the behavior may originate from compromised systems at a ZScaler customer, which could be any of many organizations from Unilever to the University of South Carolina. Clearly, these are not in the control of ZScaler (and may not be in the immediate control of the customer). When you say "That proxy service is allowing its clients to abuse our services", that may be equivalent to "ZScaler is unwilling to put pressure on its paying customers who have compromised machines that do things we don't like." Depending on the behavior, that seems like something that could be addressed effectively by calling out ZScaler (a security company) for not taking stronger action. Of course, this really depends on the type of abuse you're seeing.

In terms of how innocent Wikimedia users can mitigate this I think you're suggesting a couple of things that don't really address the pervasive impact of the global block:

• The admins of a particular language instance of Wikipedia could take a decision to only soft-block ZScaler. Great, but without knowledge of the type of abuse that triggered this, it's tough to make the case for why a different approach would be appropriate on say, en or fr.
• "If you are using someone else's network, and they want their network to be used for this purpose the network administrator may also whitelist our domains (at least some have done so previously)." I think you're saying that particular companies could allow their users' traffic to Wikimedia domains to bypass ZScaler. This seems unlikely to succeed. I've got a pretty good idea what response I would get if I sent my company's security team an email asking "Can you whitelist these domains so that I can use my work computer out of hours to edit Wikipedia articles? I need to do that without my traffic being examined by ZScaler."

I still don't understand why this needs to be a hard block. If Wikimedia blocked unauthenticated edits from this range plus any abusive behavior from authenticated accounts, that would appear to address the issue without the significant harms caused by the current hard block. Rupert Clayton (talk) 05:12, 12 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Unfortunately, proxy and VPN companies are very unresponsive to their users disrupting others systems. We are in communication with a resource from this proxy, but not getting very far. Blocks are being monitored and may be adjusted. We have absolutely had companies decide to not send traffic to our domains to third party proxies, when they want their networks and computers used in that manner. — xaosflux ^Talk 12:33, 12 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]